Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Lordwafik]

non homam blu got to chain3 it's still pretty nice, but then again imps are so weak and have like, 3 HP

[NynJa]

on normal servers that wouldn't happen...


you wont find 4 imps in close proximity.

[Moochi]

Killing imps isn't endgame.

[Priran]

(and AFb)

Assuming this is one of those I'm-too-hot-shit-to-say-AF2 things, I really doubt SE will incorporate the new jobs into Dynamis and instead make the AF hard to obtain and fairly high-level.

[shihei]

Killing imps isn't endgame.

staring at darters for 3hours is right?

[Moochi]

Killing imps isn't endgame.

staring at darters for 3hours is right?

For example, yes.

[Lordwafik]

(and AFb)

Assuming this is one of those I'm-too-hot-shit-to-say-AF2 things, I really doubt SE will incorporate the new jobs into Dynamis and instead make the AF hard to obtain and fairly high-level.

I hate ppl who refuse to say AF2 too.

Also, currently, there's no way they can stick the new jobs into dynamis and have them fit in the storyline, they're hardly connected, the empire didnt help out in the great war. However, there's a tiny hint in the way they can connect them. On POL's site there's a thing about imps being shadowlord's spies. So that is our only connection so far.

We'll have to see how the story plays out. If there's going to be any AF2, it'll be in new zones for sure. I for one cant wait to see a Mamool Ja Prototype.

I just hope they dont gay it up, and put nightmare mobs in there. They should just be all beastmen.

[shihei]

(and AFb)

Assuming this is one of those I'm-too-hot-shit-to-say-AF2 things, I really doubt SE will incorporate the new jobs into Dynamis and instead make the AF hard to obtain and fairly high-level.

I hate ppl who refuse to say AF2 too.

Also, currently, there's no way they can stick the new jobs into dynamis and have them fit in the storyline, they're hardly connected, the empire didnt help out in the great war. However, there's a tiny hint in the way they can connect them. On POL's site there's a thing about imps being shadowlord's spies. So that is our only connection so far.

We'll have to see how the story plays out. If there's going to be any AF2, it'll be in new zones for sure. I for one cant wait to see a Mamool Ja Prototype.

I just hope they dont gay it up, and put nightmare mobs in there. They should just be all beastmen.

Bet you'll need to clear dynamis-Tav to get new jobs AF
or
I'm feeling silly

[Not Kuno]

Wait what the hell is AFb? I just thought it was a drunken typo.

[Kaziel]

(and AFb)

Assuming this is one of those I'm-too-hot-shit-to-say-AF2 things, I really doubt SE will incorporate the new jobs into Dynamis and instead make the AF hard to obtain and fairly high-level.

I hate ppl who refuse to say AF2 too.

Also, currently, there's no way they can stick the new jobs into dynamis and have them fit in the storyline, they're hardly connected, the empire didnt help out in the great war. However, there's a tiny hint in the way they can connect them. On POL's site there's a thing about imps being shadowlord's spies. So that is our only connection so far.

We'll have to see how the story plays out. If there's going to be any AF2, it'll be in new zones for sure. I for one cant wait to see a Mamool Ja Prototype.

I just hope they dont gay it up, and put nightmare mobs in there. They should just be all beastmen.

First, it's not a "I'm-too-hot-shit-to-say-AF2 things". Prior to this, I didn't even realize there was any drama/debate/whatever about it. Honestly, I have no real preference about it one way or another. In fact, to make everyone happy, I will now call it RelicAF2b (j/k). All I was thinking about was that eventually they are likely to add AF2 to the game. As to how they will add it, I have no idea.

[wartortle]

I remember when AF2 meant my BLM AF Feet

[Nny]

How's BLU solo on harder things (NMs) or longer times (Limbus)?

BLU has C something eva, with WAR (Csomething) I'm able to get enough EVA to dodge up to EM mobs pretty consistantly without debuffs/buffs. But BLU also can get Eva Trait, Feather Barrier, Warm-Up, Haste, aswell as a variety of debuff moves.

Biggest problem I see is bad MP regeneration for all the spells needed to be casted. Can get Auto refresh at the cost of alot of points, and verm cloak at the cost of body and head gear (and a 10 EVA cut on it alone). I know BLU can solo a few mobs easily, but then they run out of MP as seen in those screenshots.

[BRP]

AF2 to me is an incorrect way to say it.

Relic. I really wish that word would be used more. Maybe even, RC.

[Priran]

AF2 to me is an incorrect way to say it.

Relic. I really wish that word would be used more. Maybe even, RC.

Relic is the weapon.

RC is the cola.

[BRP]

I believe they are both "Relic", weapon and armor. SE calls the armor Relic like they call Arfifact it's name.

[Moochi]

How's BLU solo on harder things (NMs) or longer times (Limbus)?

BLU has C something eva, with WAR (Csomething) I'm able to get enough EVA to dodge up to EM mobs pretty consistantly without debuffs/buffs. But BLU also can get Eva Trait, Feather Barrier, Warm-Up, Haste, aswell as a variety of debuff moves.

Biggest problem I see is bad MP regeneration for all the spells needed to be casted. Can get Auto refresh at the cost of alot of points, and verm cloak at the cost of body and head gear (and a 10 EVA cut on it alone). I know BLU can solo a few mobs easily, but then they run out of MP as seen in those screenshots.

I went to Tiamat as BLU/WAR the other day (I wanted to tank but we had alot of tanks) and I tried doing some damage.

Physical spells
I tried most of the later lvl ones. Frenetic Rip was doing 50-150 dmg. Disseverment about 0-100. Most of the single hit ones (ram charge, vertical cleave, death scissors etc) were doing 0-100. It was quite sad. 0s happened ALOT with single hit spells so I'm thinking if Tiamat can block/guard or something. Best dmg was pretty much the poison from Disseverment. I never really got hate at all. I was pretty much resting while he was in the air (cannonball sucks donkey dong) and spammed shit when he landed. Problem with the multihit spells doing better dmg is that they were giving him more TP. This fight was pretty long cause it was really early in the morning so we didn't have alot of people but during the 2 hour fight I only pulled hate once at about 20%. I relogged and never pulled hate again.

If I had THF sub the dmg would obviously be better but then you would look at the risks of SAing on it. In the air you would SA+Cannonball. I think SAM sub could be a good idea too. You can self SC every 6 mins for the BLMs.

The 2nd half of the fight I tried some head butting spam. Yes it did stun Tiamat sometimes. I'd say probably around 25-30% but it only lasted 1 second at most.

Oh, and I used Terror Touch a few times but never saw the "the effect of attack down wore off"-message.

Magical
Frightful Roar landed aprox 50% of the time I'd say and lasted pretty much the whole time he was on the ground. Couldn't see any increase in dmg from the avatars though. I tried Enervation for the Magic Def down but it only lasted 10-15 seconds so it wasn't really worth it. I used 1000 needles with 2h and it got resisted. Tried Bad Breath a couple times and the only thing that landed was Gravity (WOOHOO). Blind from Hecatomb Wave didn't land the 2-3 times I used it.

Used Filamented Hold once and I got "no effect" so the Slow that was already on it was stronger (not sure if elegy and f-hold counts as the same slow like Hojo and the spell Slow). Cold Wave got resisted 3 times (wanted to try it for the cool -39 AGI and the pretty strong DoT). Aweful Eye landed once out of 3 tries but it's hard to know if it always gives full effect of -39STR.


Oh and one last thing. I had Red Curry on on accident from a merit PT (6 hours cause of Sanction...) but I never had any Acc problems with Warm-Up on. Throughout the whole fight I missed 3-4 physical spells.

EDIT: lol just read you post again and realized you wrote "solo". Whatever, I spent 10 mins writing this so I might as well post it.

[cassiraa]

I like to call it Relic, There is a NPC in Jeuno that upgrades Relic Equipment. but *shrug* that's just semantics... Back in my day, i quested my RDM AF6 'cuz that meant the hat.


And I'm thinking BLU/COR/PUP will drop from the Remnants maps, Which will be horribly fun 3-18 person areas, that drop new items and equipment for all jobs to use, with the option of having your team fight HNMs in there too. And I want a pony. And a Black Chocobo. And I want them to mate.


Realistically:
Nightmare Chigoe. Lots of them.

[Kaziel]

Nightmare Chigoe. Lots of them.

[FFXIFlux]

blu/nin solo, yoinked off KI

Very nice. :3 Although that's full Homan gear. <_< No way I'd be able to get that.

The legs are very nice, but otherwise I don't think Homan gear is necessary or optimal for Heraldic Imps. Your accuracy should be good enough on them that you're better off with dusk set's attack than Homan's accuracy.

Used Filamented Hold once and I got "no effect" so the Slow that was already on it was stronger (not sure if elegy and f-hold counts as the same slow like Hojo and the spell Slow). Cold Wave got resisted 3 times (wanted to try it for the cool -39 AGI and the pretty strong DoT). Aweful Eye landed once out of 3 tries but it's hard to know if it always gives full effect of -39STR.

Stronger/weaker doesn't really come into it for slow. It is set so certain spells overwrite others and it doesn't really matter how strong they are. Filament Hold is a decent slow and I use it soloing sometimes, but it's duration SUCKS. I was recasting 2 or 3 times on EP buffalo when I was getting Lowing. Sandspray has the same duration. Bloody expensive MP wise to blind a mob for such a short time.

[Priran]

Back in my day, i quested my RDM AF6 'cuz that meant the hat.

AF1=Weapon, AF2=first Quest, AF3=second Quest. So it has always been.