Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Atoreis]

I have found that all mobs build resistance after the first cast. Just throwing that out there. >.>;

You are very unlucky or a lot below the blue magic cap. Like I said I stunned even Caleano 3 times in a row for 10+ sec each.

[6souls]

I have capped magic, but I'm saying you can notice a difference on the length of each stun. First obviously being the longest and by the time you're around 6+, it hits, but it doesn't last.

[Darkmagi]

Yeah have noticed that too, was pretty disappointing.

[Helel]

No offense, but I don't think anyone is going to care whether your stun lands on the old T4 VW NMs, or your defense down.

I would care if they landed on the new T3's, but I doubt it. Sudden lunge doesn't even seem to land at all on the new Jeuno T3's. I haven't tried it myself, but I was just watching one of my LS members try it.

With that said, if you can get lunge to land on the new T3's, or the defense down, then that would be really nice. Some of them have fairly high defense. There's only 11 of us so it would definitely help.

[Draylo]

Yeah it makes me wonder if head butt builds resistance up as quick, or if it even works on the newer VW NMs. I will try and test these swords out on newer VW NMs unless someone beats me to it.

[Foldypaws]

Yeah it makes me wonder if head butt builds resistance up as quick, or if it even works on the newer VW NMs. I will try and test these swords out on newer VW NMs unless someone beats me to it.

I have not noticed head butt working well on VWNMs, but I was trying with BLU @ 92 without capped blue skill, so the extra 30 skill or so may or may not make a large difference, and I only tried like, 3-4 times.

[Atoreis]

Nope I am 100% sure Head butt and Lunge has equal chance for land stun at worst. Lunge probably have better macc but I cant prove it now but Im 100% sure its not reverse.

Thats true Lunge stun getting shorter till the point its wears off very fast but its not really that simple. I many times successfully stuned with lunge for like 10sec long after like several Lunges with 1sec duration. Tho at some point I had a problem landing stun at all on caleano when ppl were casting stun randomly for entire fight. Flat blade and Temporal is your friends then tho obviously they are much limited on use ( Temporal is on 2 min recast ).

We are starting jeuno and zilart very soon and im working on my macc set now so I should know better in a week.

[dasva]

Well yeah increased resistance is just increased chance to be resisted not a flat lose so many seconds per cast. Also not sure about VW mobs but iirc when they added the whole nms gaining resistance they mentioned it wears off slowly and from old kiting days that seemed true though. Usually it wears much slower than is all that useful but if you did something like switch to kiting with bind only for awhile you could start landing gravity again or vice versa for awhile

[Alistaire]

MDEF -15%, atk-15%, def-15%, all help everyone in the alliance and not just the BLU.

Don't forget the magic atk down sword, which may be the best to go for if you're going to go for one of those for voidwatch...

[Nightfyre]

I feel like I ask this every time it comes up but what's the procrate and duration of the Magian def down effect? It certainly has potential in large group settings... also lets you freely use Benthic Typhoon to self-SC if that's a viable option over Goblin Rush.

[Kaelis]

I feel like I ask this every time it comes up but what's the procrate and duration of the Magian def down effect? It certainly has potential in large group settings... also lets you freely use Benthic Typhoon to self-SC if that's a viable option over Goblin Rush.

Granted, it's alla, but this numbers heavy post from the MNK forums over there seems to indicate a 30% proc rate:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...94485114504914

[Foldypaws]

I feel like I ask this every time it comes up but what's the procrate and duration of the Magian def down effect? It certainly has potential in large group settings... also lets you freely use Benthic Typhoon to self-SC if that's a viable option over Goblin Rush.

The proc rate is something like delay/1200, IIRC. So for the swords, at 230, that'd be ~20% proc rate. I want to say duration is 30s, but it's been a while, it might be 60s.

[Ophannus]

Hm not bad, might look into MDB-Down sword for RDM for procing m.def down. Might be good in NM situations to run up and hit a few times to get that m.def down for mages.

[doctorugh]

Hm not bad, might look into MDB-Down sword for RDM for procing m.def down. Might be good in NM situations to run up and hit a few times to get that m.def down for mages.

I dont do any VW, so Im a bit confused. Why cant you just use BT to hit both -DEF and -MDB? Or is the macc of these effects for BT low, while the proc rate on weapons is constant regardless of the mobs magic eva(or resistance)? Also which one would overwrite the other?

[Atoreis]

Magic evasion +15 is the same as resistance to all elements +15?

[Foldypaws]

Magic evasion +15 is the same as resistance to all elements +15?

As far as we know, yeah.

[Atoreis]

As far as we know, yeah.

2 more swords to do ....

I have no idea how I gonna macro them lol. I can leave some on +2 but that wont work for that many lol

[Foldypaws]

2 more swords to do ....

I have no idea how I gonna macro them lol. I can leave some on +2 but that wont work for that many lol

Yeah, it's annoying. My BLU physical spell macro equips a random sword, basically. >_> (Out of STR or DEX). I might only take the STR one to +3, since I only use the dex one for casting in.

[dasva]

If you are trying for magic defense... I think -matck might be best

[Draylo]

Don't forget the magic atk down sword, which may be the best to go for if you're going to go for one of those for voidwatch...

Yeah I mentioned that in a earlier post, I haven't finished making one yet though to try it out.