Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Gojiras]

BLU gets Orcish Counterstance, and Counter was on the list of job traits that will be upgradeable in tier by 99. So there's that. Kinda curious to see how effective OC will be.

[Ranth]

BLU gets Orcish Counterstance, and Counter was on the list of job traits that will be upgradeable in tier by 99. So there's that. Kinda curious to see how effective OC will be.

With an MP cost that low, I'm unfortunately not holding my breath on its effectiveness. I hope I eat my words.

[ronin sparthos]

5-10%. I'll bet my Mark of Zahak on it.

[Karbuncle]

5-10%. I'll bet my Mark of Zahak on it.

I was personally going to guess 10%

[Prothescar]

Guessing 10~15% with a 30~60 second duration. 4 second casting time is kinda balls. Barrier Tusk V2 :C

[Septimus]

I for one wasn't sure on the mob families, so for convenience:

EDIT: They listed these in the same order they appear in the dats, sooo... included that info.

Quadrastrike (Kindred aka Demons in CoP/WotG zones)
BLU96 MP Cost: 98 Casting Time: 0.5 Recast Delay: 42.5
Delivers a fourfold attack. Chance of critical hit varies with TP.

Vapor Spray (Phuabo)
BLU96 MP Cost: 172 Casting Time: 3.0 Recast Delay: 19.0
Deals water breath damage to enemies within a fan-shaped area originating from the caster. Additional effect: Poison.

Thunder Breath (Wyvern)
BLU97 MP Cost: 193 Casting Time: 7.0 Recast Delay: 56.0
Deals thunder breath damage to enemies within a fan-shaped area originating from the caster.

Orcish Counterstance (WotG Orcs)
BLU98 MP Cost: 18 Casting Time: 4.0 Recast Delay: 11.0
Increases the caster's chance of countering.

Amorphic Spikes (Flan)
BLU98 MP Cost: 79 Casting Time: 0.5 Recast Delay: 58.25
Delivers a fivefold attack. Damage varies with TP.

Wind Breath (Dragon - same as Body Slam ones)
BLU99 MP Cost: 26 Casting Time: 1.0 Recast Delay: 29.5
Deals wind breath damage to enemies within a fan-shaped area originating from the caster.

Barbed Crescent (Fomor)
BLU99 MP Cost: 52 Casting Time: 0.5 Recast Delay: 22.0
Damage varies with TP. Additional effect: Accuracy Down.

Spells castable only while under the effect of Unbridled Learning:

Absolute Terror (Wyrm) - Fafnir/Nidhogg, Wyrm(KS99), Tiamat/Vrtra/Jorm/Ouryu, Cynoprosopi(Limbus), Dragua/Cuelebre/Smok(Abyssea),
BLU96 MP Cost: 29 Casting Time: 0.5 Recast Delay: 30.0
Freezes target in fear.

Gates of Hades (Cerberus) - Cerberus, Sarameya(ZNM), Amarok/Orthus(Abyssea), Black Shuck(Assault)
BLU97 MP Cost: 156 Casting Time: 3.5 Recast Delay: 30.0
Deals fire damage to enemies within area of effect. Additional effect: Burn.

Tourbillion (Khimaira) - Khimaira, Tyger (ZNM) , Khimaira 14X (Assault)
BLU97 MP Cost: 108 Casting Time: 1.0 Recast Delay: 30.0
Delivers an area attack. Additional effect duration varies with TP. Additional effect: Weakens defense.

Pyric Bulwark (Hydra) - Hydra, Tinnin (ZNM), Orochi (Assault), Hydra(Nyzul), Alfard(Abyssea)
BLU98 MP Cost: 50 Casting Time: 1.5 Recast Delay: 30.0
Resists physical damage.

Bilgestorm (Dvergr) - Durinn or Dvallin really.
BLU99 MP Cost: 122 Casting Time: 1.0 Recast Delay: 30.0
Delivers an area attack. Additional effect duration varies with TP. Additional effect: Lowers attack, defense, and accuracy.

Bloodrake (Vampyr) - Lord Ruthven(VNM), Nosferatu, Oupire, Lord Varney(Abyssea), Castle Zvahzl(S)
BLU99 MP Cost: 99 Casting Time: 0.5 Recast Delay: 30.0
Delivers a threefold attack. Damage varies with TP. Additional effect: HP Drain.

Very helpful list! Allowed me to updatethe Blue Mage spell list toot sweet.

[Prothescar]

just noticed the 11 second recast on CS. hm.

[Foldypaws]

I'd laugh if it was like, 90%, but only had a 10 second duration or something >_>

[dasva]

I'd laugh if it was like, 90%, but only had a 10 second duration or something >_>

Reminds me feather barrier

[fantasticdan]

I don't understand how they managed to pick such a lame set of non-HNM spells to add, we really needed more ways to deal water/thunder damage? What happened to frozen mist?

[Prothescar]

If you can seriously look at these spells and say they're lame then I don't know what to tell you. We've needed new breaths for a long time, and we currently are not hurting for more nukes. This set of spells looks fantastic to me, and I look forward to seeing how they work in practice.

[VZX01]

I'm just waiting for the test result. Orcish counterstance is equiprobable being suck or good. 4 seconds cast time is quite a lot if the duration is 1 min or lower. And if the counter rate isn't as great as the original, the more reason it being unpractical.

[dasva]

Being a taru I could care less about breaths. But alot of those have really good potential

[fantasticdan]

Breath spells have always been terrible compared to a nuke of the same element in like every way outside of the odd super high MDB target; damage, mp efficiency, cast time, range... Vapor spray and thunder breath would need ridiculously high hp% modifiers to be useful compared to charged whisker/water bomb/etc. And yes, we have been hurting nukes of specific elements, specifically ice and wind. Wind breath isn't likely to help in this department, it looks like poison breath mk. 2.

Does giving us tons of overlapping water/dark/fire/thunder nukes, and nothing decent from the other elements seem like good design to you?

[Prothescar]

How many times have you sat there and said "OH WOW I COULD REALLY USE AN EARTH NUKE RIGHT ABOUT NOW!"

Ice would be cool, but aside from that, there is absolutely nothing "lame" about this set of spells. Breaths are the one thing that BLU has and other jobs do not, and in certain situations they can be fairly useful. Vapor Spray likely will not be superior to Regurgitation, no, however situations may exist where the breath damage is superior to magical damage. Wind Breath has the potential to be a nice, quick, cheap bit of damage to go with Delta Thrust and Heavy Strike. Barbed Crescent, accuracy and potency pending, can be very nice for solo/evasion tanking.



With luck they'll update the test server tomorrow so I can try these out and see what they can do.

[fantasticdan]

Did I say earth? No, I said ice and wind, which yes, there were plenty of situations where being able to nuke in those elements would have been helpful in my time playing this game. Barbed crescent is the only thing that seems interesting, since it could be another mp efficient ranged spell, and the debuff could be ok, but when was the last time you used spiral spin?

Judging by the mp costs/cast times on thunder breath/vapor spray, I doubt SE has learned their lesson with breath spells, hence my lack of enthusiasm for wind breath, but who knows. The lack of a refresh ii spell is also pretty disheartening. Maybe they'll add a way to buff battery charge or something, but I doubt it.

[VZX01]

Did I say earth? No, I said ice and wind, which yes, there were plenty of situations where being able to nuke in those elements would have been helpful in my time playing this game.

And those situations would be?

[Draylo]

Did I say earth? No, I said ice and wind, which yes, there were plenty of situations where being able to nuke in those elements would have been helpful in my time playing this game. Barbed crescent is the only thing that seems interesting, since it could be another mp efficient ranged spell, and the debuff could be ok, but when was the last time you used spiral spin?

Judging by the mp costs/cast times on thunder breath/vapor spray, I doubt SE has learned their lesson with breath spells, hence my lack of enthusiasm for wind breath, but who knows. The lack of a refresh ii spell is also pretty disheartening. Maybe they'll add a way to buff battery charge or something, but I doubt it.

A refresh II is hardly needed at this point considering the very mp efficient spells we have to dmg with. Voidwatch has tons of meds we can use.

[Atoreis]

Was testing BLU a little on test server and apparently we got some powerful self buff that wasn't mentioned in update notes. My strength rises dramatically

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6400/workout2v.jpg

[doctorugh]

Was testing BLU a little on test server and apparently we got some powerful self buff that wasn't mentioned in update notes. My strength rises dramatically

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6400/workout2v.jpg

9000!