Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[mightyg]

also curious about the new trait combos, any other info other than dual wield? you would think orcish counterstance would be part of the counter trait combo, but you never know...

also they made it sound like we would be able to augment relic +2 in addition to the base stats right?

[Prothescar]

Orcish Counterstance - Counter
Vapor Spray - Max MP
Thunder Breath - Max HP
Wind Breath - Fast Cast
Barbed Crescent - Dual Wield
Amorphic Spikes - Treasure Hunter (Requires only this + the two Gilfinder spells)
Quadrastrike - Skillchain Bonus

[VZX01]

We don't get any more spell slots, do we?
It's long overdue since Lv71.

So I guess CA+Efflux Quadrastrike is always better than CA+Efflux Amorphic strike both inside and outside abyssea?
Since we don't have any practical spells that have CA description as "critical chance varies with TP" since Abyssea came out, do we know whether these spells could also boosted by RR/GH? If yes, then more reason to spam quadrastrike

[Prothescar]

No, no new spell slots.

As for Quadrastrike being superior to Amorphic for CA+Eff, it depends. Amorphic Spikes makes darkness with our strongest weaponskill, pushing it ahead if you're capable of meleeing the mob. I haven't looked at Amorphic's mods yet either (in the process of doing Bloodrake), could be it has a better looking spread. Quadrastrike had a fairly low fTP and what seems to be a moderate but not high STR mod, but too early to say for sure.

Quadrastrike is likely better on higher level NMs due to its ability to crit with CA and Efflux, but without either of those JAs it can not crit.

[Septimus]

Can anyone test to see if there is a higher tier for Dual Wield, Counter, or Max MP boost? (Set all 6 spells and 18 set points for an awesome +20 MP... >_> )

[Prothescar]

Dual Wield and Max MP Boost increase as expected, not surprising. Counter I can't say for sure and I can't be bothered to test for the miniscule difference tbh.

[Septimus]

Dual Wield and Max MP Boost increase as expected, not surprising. Counter I can't say for sure and I can't be bothered to test for the miniscule difference tbh.

Is it all 6 spells for Max MP Boost?

[Prothescar]

Bloodrake has a STR mod of some description and nothing else that I can discern. It was a pain in the dick to do a physical unbridled learning spell ._.

Is it all 6 spells for Max MP Boost?

Yeah. Actually hold on let me go double check.

Edit: I'm trippin'. There's only five Max MP boosts anyways, Thunder Breath is HP not MP. Can only get up to Max MP Boost II. Max HP Boost II is attainable with all four spells set.

It's also worth noting that, while we can now set four Fast Cast spells, setting all four will only render unto us BLUs the effect of Fast Cast I, i.e. 2 Fast Cast spells = 5%/2.5% and 4 spells = 10%/5%

[VZX01]

is acc-30 on barbed crescent constant? Or we can improve further with more blue magic skill?

[Prothescar]

Appeared constant unless the tiers are very spaced apart. I'm sure not complaining though, -30ACC is pretty bad ass.

[Prothescar]

Lol hold onto your hats for this one. Amorphic Spikes is most definitely is DEX+INT for mods.

So what I've got so far:

Quadrastrike - STR (possibly 25%, not 100% sure)
Bloodrake - STR
Amorphic Spikes - DEX, INT

Not going into specifics yet, waiting until they hit live. Will get Barbed Crescent's general mods then I'm done, Tourbillion and Bilgestorm can be someone else's problem lol.

[VZX01]

DEX and INT... gonna be bitch to gear on

[Yugl]

Where is the ACC-30 for Barbed Crescent coming from and how was that tested? I thought the test server lacked access to parses.

[Tambor]

Iirc he used Limules to reflect the status effect back to him with that TP move and then used /check

[transmit]

Just finished Almace 85 the other day.



Any really obvious / easy / cheap pieces I'm missing?

I know I need to upgrade my Ammo slot, working on a better trial offhand, and I plan to get the +25%TP bonus WoTG earring.

[Vriska]

Looks a lot like my set. Thundersoul Ring and Alcide's Mitts/Leggings +1?

Although come to think I have a CDC-related question.

Aias Bonnet vs WSDmg+2% & CritDamage+2% MKE hat?

[Neisan]

Epona's Ring, Alcide's +1 Mitts, Thunder Sachet.

Perfect MKD head beats Aias in or out of Abyssea. Ocelomeh/Toci's is best setup iirc.

[Prothescar]

Where is the ACC-30 for Barbed Crescent coming from and how was that tested? I thought the test server lacked access to parses.

Iirc he used Limules to reflect the status effect back to him with that TP move and then used /check

This. Got the limules to check right on the border of low and neutral evasion within 1 accuracy, put the effect on them, molting burst, /checked and I was neutral, put on accuracy until it was low again. Evened out at 30 ACC. I did the same thing for the DEF and ATK down effects.


Okay so, done with the physicals that I care about testing.

Currently looks like:

Quadrastrike - 25% STR, 1.25 fTP
Amorphic Spikes - 20% DEX/INT, 1.0 fTP (possible attack boost)
Barbed Crescent - 50% DEX, 2.0 fTP (possible attack boost)
Bloodrake - 30% STR, 1.1875 fTP (possible attack boost)

Numbers aren't exact, only reasonably close estimates based on the data I have. Will do more when the spells are in their final forms.

[Yugl]

I wasn't aware of the limule trick; should add that to the test tools thread.

[Prothescar]

I wasn't either lol, thought it would be a good idea and much quicker than parsing it out in the long run. In theory it would work with any type of mob that can reflect status effects, but the Light based limules can only use Molting Burst.


Also, Quadrastrike is 0% crit rate at 0TP, 40~50% at 150TP (using efflux and +2 pants to test). It ignores all sources of crit rate; it's completely fixed based on TP. Efflux + Quadra should be a pretty potent combo.