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  1. #10261
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Well, you can believe order of operations doesn't matter; it's not my problem. Luckily, there are tons of tests to suggest otherwise in a portion of the forum just north of here.

  2. #10262
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Well, you can believe order of operations doesn't matter; it's not my problem. Luckily, there are tons of tests to suggest otherwise in a portion of the forum just north of here.
    Judging by your understanding of breath spells, that means nothing to me. Also, here's the proper formula when factoring in Convergence.

    [((Lv+2+WSC%)fTP) + (dSTAT*TM)] * Convergence


    Enjoy.

  3. #10263
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    I was just wondering if anyone confirmed the effect on mavi tayt +2 is 300%TP bonus, cause i cant find it on wiki or bgwiki, and i remember it was believed to be this.
    I mainly ask cause of quadrastrike, cause it basically means that with efflux would have a high chance of critting right? Also, how did you test that +crit gear or atmas dont affect it Prothescar? (just razed ruins gnarled horn would suffice i guess)

  4. #10264
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Burst affinity merits v2?

  5. #10265
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vathris View Post
    I was just wondering if anyone confirmed the effect on mavi tayt +2 is 300%TP bonus, cause i cant find it on wiki or bgwiki, and i remember it was believed to be this.
    I mainly ask cause of quadrastrike, cause it basically means that with efflux would have a high chance of critting right? Also, how did you test that +crit gear or atmas dont affect it Prothescar? (just razed ruins gnarled horn would suffice i guess)
    Mavi tayt +2 offer a bonus of 150TP. Crit damage affects it fine, crit rate from every source besides TP does not. Crits were easy to determine.

  6. #10266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Mavi tayt +2 offer a bonus of 150TP. Crit damage affects it fine, crit rate from every source besides TP does not. Crits were easy to determine.
    Ooo. We do like testing. Does that mean that the Mavi Tayt +1 is a bonus 125 TP? Any good sources for the testing?

  7. #10267
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    Tayt +1 = 125TP.

    Don't have any sources left over myself, will go gather some though as it takes only ten minutes to test something so simple.

    Queasyshroom's poison duration scales with TP.

    150TP + Chain Affinity = 2:40 poison
    Efflux + Emp pants = 2:40 poison


    150 TP.

    Some screenshot evidence in case my word isn't credible enough:

    Chain Affinity
    http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...inAffinity.png

    Efflux
    http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...duo/efflux.png

  8. #10268
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    From briefly screwing around:

    Pyrhic Bulwark is in fact a physical shield- however it appears (and I admittedly only used it once) that it only negates the next physical move that hits you.

    The new sword WS, Requiescat, is Gravitation. I don't think it has a level 3 property; I tried Requiescat--->Requiescat but it yielded nothing (however, I only did it once so I could have just screwed up the timing). I did not test for level 1 properties yet.

    Damage in TP gear with 1 merit was ~650 on some bombs in Mount Z. I will be interested in seeing how it does on harder stuff.

  9. #10269
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    Damage from Club WS is kinda depressing. ...in that it's better than sword, and possibly CDC outside of abyssea.

    With a Rounsey Wand I'm getting 1.6~2k inside with almost no MND gear on. It's Fusion, made light with Heavy Strike.

  10. #10270
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Damage from Club WS is kinda depressing. ...in that it's better than sword, and possibly CDC outside of abyssea.

    With a Rounsey Wand I'm getting 1.6~2k inside with almost no MND gear on. It's Fusion, made light with Heavy Strike.
    Haha, wow. Time to main hand perdu wand, offhand a sword? XD

  11. #10271
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    almace wru ;;

  12. #10272
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    Man they need to update club options for BLU, I tossed my Perdu Wand years ago. lol

    Lyft Ferule is the only other option ._.

  13. #10273
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    Maybe the swd will be better situationally? The text for it I saw in the test server threads was interesting... non-element dmg att modded by tp... Makes it sound almost like a mix between spirits/atonement dmg and normal physical idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    almace wru ;;
    It says it in the name, Almace. It seems that we ignored the warning.

  15. #10275
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Maybe the swd will be better situationally? The text for it I saw in the test server threads was interesting... non-element dmg att modded by tp... Makes it sound almost like a mix between spirits/atonement dmg and normal physical idk
    Definitely getting this vibe from using it on elementals and seeing way higher damage than my normal weaponskills.

  16. #10276
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    Sweet, now my Raphael's Rod can be used for more than a proc weapon.

  17. #10277
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    Alrighty, I have a question for my fellow BLUs. I was asked to come BLU to Kaggan but I was having trouble doing any respectable damage on him. CDCs were okay but spell damage was poor. Should I focus on physical or magical spells next time? Any specific spells you see as being the most consistent?

    Also, does anyone have a Voidwatch battle start set spell list (for procs) that has been successful in making triggering some procs early?

    Thanks!

  18. #10278
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    Magical. Regurgitation messes him up (well, in a similar way that a drop of acid rain erodes limestone....but still!)

  19. #10279
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    Only two times I parsed him he was a complete dick (this was PUG though)... Conqueror War with I'm assuming Coercion/Discipline and all temps and Magian Staff+2/3 Blms were the highest damage by far with rarely anyone else coming close. The only Blu wasn't exactly what I'd call stall stellar and ended up dying alot to Aoes etc., their Regurgitation damage from them was pretty poor, Dark orb had trouble breaking 400ish etc. If your set is better (did they even gearswap? Probably fulltimed Emp armor) I'd go for it though.

  20. #10280
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    I have no issues on Kaggen with my magic...

    I use Regurgitation whenever it's up and I'm not swapping spells, usually does 400~700 damage depending on if I have drink up/resists. I also use Dark Orb whenever it's up for just over 1,000 damage if it does not resist (the guy who couldn't break 400 needs some serious work).

    Coup de grace is Everyone's Grudge. I only use it with Burst Affinity, does just over 1.5k and usually I get it on a lucky Darkness for a little over 2.

    Magic is definitely your best option.

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