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  1. #10681
    Impossiblu
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    no

  2. #10682
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    The AF2+2 would've been otherwise nice if they weren't come so late. They are totally eclipsed by other pieces of gear.

  3. #10683
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Yeah I've never got a COR or BRD as I'm usually stuck in the proc party, so I only have my own devices to work with. ;(
    This is pretty much the bane of my entire VW existance. I'm not a meathead with a giant axe so I don't deserve buffs. ¬¬ It feels as if things are cascading in a "lolmeleeblu" direction. I'unno maybe it's just me but everytime I'm told I'm not supposed to do anything other than proc I just wanna reach through the screen and punch people.

    This problem was taken to a logical extreme in an old LS I had where during events the only people actually allowed to engage the mob out of the 12 or so of us there were the WAR and MNK, with the WHM curing. Everyone else was just supposed to watch.

  4. #10684
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    BLU got more relevant triple attack gear (and even a trait) than WAR >.> I can see some spike from our CDC could be really potent when received proper buff.

  5. #10685
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vriska View Post
    This is pretty much the bane of my entire VW existance. I'm not a meathead with a giant axe so I don't deserve buffs. ¬¬ It feels as if things are cascading in a "lolmeleeblu" direction. I'unno maybe it's just me but everytime I'm told I'm not supposed to do anything other than proc I just wanna reach through the screen and punch people.

    This problem was taken to a logical extreme in an old LS I had where during events the only people actually allowed to engage the mob out of the 12 or so of us there were the WAR and MNK, with the WHM curing. Everyone else was just supposed to watch.
    Yeah, which is why I like to make my own parties for shit I need, I know how to make them. Being stuck in a BLM party when a gimp galka thief and a WAR with a -pdt axe are in a COR party just urks me.

  6. #10686
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Yeah, which is why I like to make my own parties for shit I need, I know how to make them. Being stuck in a BLM party when a gimp galka thief and a WAR with a -pdt axe are in a COR party just urks me.
    I don't have White V, or I would

  7. #10687
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    The AF2+2 would've been otherwise nice if they weren't come so late. They are totally eclipsed by other pieces of gear.
    The gloves seem decent for eva/SB build, and there's no downside to an extra 10s on 2hr (unless you have to keep them equipped or something?)

  8. #10688
    Impossiblu
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    Head is the only truly acceptable piece atm, though yeah the hands can be somewhat useful, though not for Sanguine Blade.

    As for BLU in Voidwatch not being taken seriously as a DD: Going to go with the assertion that was posted a page or two back, the lolBLU stigma is still alive and well despite the job evolving and coming leaps and bounds ahead of where it was at 75. It's a pity for a lot of people, luckily my LS doesn't seem to cater to that particular rationale. I'm simply in the proc party because we have more DDs than can fit in the DD party who would, let's face it, benefit more from the COR buffs. I can still crank out CDCs plenty rapidly without Miser's Roll, but I do get sad panda :c

  9. #10689
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    I don't know how you took that to mean sanguine blade, I meant subtle blow lol.

  10. #10690
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    The AF2+2 would've been otherwise nice if they weren't come so late. They are totally eclipsed by other pieces of gear.
    Body seems decent for Heavy Strike, solid acc with some STR

  11. #10691
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctorugh View Post
    Body seems decent for Heavy Strike, solid acc with some STR
    As a free option, it's not bad if you need the accuracy. You might as well use Alcide's harness +1 though (if you've got the gil and need the accuracy), which has one extra str and slightly less acc, plus it increases critical hit damage.

    With that said, I always just use AF+1.

    Personally I use the relic body +2 for tping in dynamis. If I was doing VW on BLU, I'd probably be using something more melee oriented.

  12. #10692
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    I don't know how you took that to mean sanguine blade, I meant subtle blow lol.
    They aren't that great for that either.

    As far as AF3+2 goes, I think the body will be a decent option when Denali+5 comes out.

  13. #10693
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Head is the only truly acceptable piece atm, though yeah the hands can be somewhat useful, though not for Sanguine Blade.

    As for BLU in Voidwatch not being taken seriously as a DD: Going to go with the assertion that was posted a page or two back, the lolBLU stigma is still alive and well despite the job evolving and coming leaps and bounds ahead of where it was at 75. It's a pity for a lot of people, luckily my LS doesn't seem to cater to that particular rationale. I'm simply in the proc party because we have more DDs than can fit in the DD party who would, let's face it, benefit more from the COR buffs. I can still crank out CDCs plenty rapidly without Miser's Roll, but I do get sad panda :c
    I got a lot of 57~59TP left with Miser's roll after CDCing, that means I most likely can WS again after 3 rounds.

    Quote Originally Posted by doctorugh View Post
    Body seems decent for Heavy Strike, solid acc with some STR
    I'd guess so, yes. But still, like I said, eclipsed by other pieces of gear. In this case, it's eclipsed by Toci's Harness


    Quote Originally Posted by Helel View Post
    As a free option, it's not bad if you need the accuracy. You might as well use Alcide's harness +1 though (if you've got the gil and need the accuracy), which has one extra str and slightly less acc, plus it increases critical hit damage.

    With that said, I always just use AF+1.

    Personally I use the relic body +2 for tping in dynamis. If I was doing VW on BLU, I'd probably be using something more melee oriented.
    Hardly free... hardly free.
    Those currencies/forgotten items can be converted to gil for buying something else.

  14. #10694
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    They aren't that great for that either.
    I hadn't seen kacura/+1 when I posted that, nvm than.

  15. #10695
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    I got a lot of 57~59TP left with Miser's roll after CDCing, that means I most likely can WS again after 3 rounds.


    I'd guess so, yes. But still, like I said, eclipsed by other pieces of gear. In this case, it's eclipsed by Toci's Harness



    Hardly free... hardly free.
    Those currencies/forgotten items can be converted to gil for buying something else.
    Doesn't cost any currency to upgrade, and I personally can't sell forgotten items for anything substantial, so it's free as far as I'm concerned. Certainly "more free" than alcide's body +1. But like I said, I don't use either.

  16. #10696
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    Hard to find forgotten items for less than 50k here, definitely not free.

  17. #10697
    Impossiblu
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    Yea... body in particular, Hopes go for 60~100k a piece on Valefor. 5,000,000g on a piece that is only marginally useful on one or two spells is a bit steep.

  18. #10698
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    Not to mention the inventory -1.

    EDIT: On that note, do you think cuch. belt is worth the inv -1 over papilka for CDC? Does cuch even win outside of aby?

  19. #10699
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Yea... body in particular, Hopes go for 60~100k a piece on Valefor. 5,000,000g on a piece that is only marginally useful on one or two spells is a bit steep.
    Once the novelty wears of there is a significant chance that the Forgotten Item market will crash. Then again, some geodes are still fairly expensive, so my philosophy is to get that money now and upgrade stuff later.

  20. #10700
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Not to mention the inventory -1.

    EDIT: On that note, do you think cuch. belt is worth the inv -1 over papilka for CDC? Does cuch even win outside of aby?
    Yes it's worth it, 'tis a difference between having an optimal weaponskill set and having a body piece to wear in town and cast a spell or two in sometimes. Cuch remains the optimal belt for CDC.

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