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  1. #10701
    Yoshi P
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    What is the difference in result between 6 str and 10 atk outside of aby thou?

  2. #10702
    Impossiblu
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    Not a massive difference, comes down to personal priority I guess. I cherish my CDC set. Prefer Warwolf+Cuchulain's. Lose 1STR 1DEX on STR/DEX spells, gain 5VIT on STR+VIT spells.

  3. #10703
    Yoshi P
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    I use both warwolf and pipalaka at the moment, but I had to pick up the latter for pup anyway, since it can't wear anything else really, but I'm still working on almace. I'll probably get cuch anyway, but inv -1 for extremely marginal upgrades that only apply to one job, or even one spell/ws is becoming an issue for me. I'm already @6 belts in inventory for blu lol, 7 if I'm /mage with siegal sash.

  4. #10704
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Not to mention the inventory -1.
    Or you can do this
    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...AF2augment.jpg
    And no I don't know what pants do either >.<

  5. #10705
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Man I must have the worst VW luck ever, I'm 0/200 on Pil or around there and haven't even had a chance to do the others... let alone try for new af2+2 -_-

  6. #10706
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod View Post
    Or you can do this
    http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...AF2augment.jpg
    And no I don't know what pants do either >.<
    Just for the sake of humoring me (moreso cause I'd like some picture evidence to prove something) could you take screenshots of your spell points with and without the pants on to show that there's no increase to the # of spell points acquired? I know it's been said that it doesn't add any, but I'd like some screenshots to basically put that idea to rest.

  7. #10707
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Man I must have the worst VW luck ever, I'm 0/200 on Pil or around there and haven't even had a chance to do the others... let alone try for new af2+2 -_-
    I've done something around 100 total VW runs so far (nearly all of which with 4|4 cells), and I have literally nothing to show for it beyond mantis eye. I've never even had a money item drop besides heavy metals, and some 70kish brd cape.

  8. #10708
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Yeah its so ridiculous yet I see so many people getting these items, it's just wtf.

  9. #10709
    CoP Dynamis
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    1/9 on Toci's >.>
    1/12 Athos Boots
    1/1 Rubeus Jacket
    1/4 Stoicheon Medal
    1/30+ Lux Pugio
    1/3 Supernal Knife
    1/1 Strendu Ring

    My luck is great except where it counts. >_>

  10. #10710
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    Consider these pieces:
    Ocelomeh Head
    Aias Bonnet

    Toci's Harness
    Athos's Tabard

    Athos's Gloves
    Alcide Mitts+1

    Athos's Tights
    Tumbler Trunks

    Kacura Leggings +1
    Athos's Boots

    Say if I got all of them, which set should I put for CDC?
    I'm considering whether I should bother with Tabard and tights at all.

    Denali hands, legs, and feet +5 are alluring enough that I should just ignore Athos's boots.

  11. #10711
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    What is this Denali +5 stuff being mentioned around here? Is it a new Magian trial coming when the new Nyzul hits? If so what are the stats?

  12. #10712
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    Taken from here:
    http://www.geocities.jp/ff11item/test/Armor.html
    Code:
    Denali Bonnet+5		Def34 STR+6 AGI+14 Ratk+6 Macc+6 MAB+6 Crit hit rate+4% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    Denali Jacket+5		Def63 Acc+12 Haste+4% Double Attack+3% Triple Attack+3% Quadruple Attack+3% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    Denali Wristbands+5	Def28 DEX+8 VIT+8 AGI+8 Acc+10 Eva+10 Enhances Fast Cast(+4) Haste+4% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    Denali Kecks+5		Def47 HP+35 STR+9 AGI+9 Atk+14 Eva+14 Haste+6% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    Denali Gamashes+5	Def26 DEX+10 AGI+10 MND+10 Atk+16 Ratk+10 Double Attack+3% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    There are +1~+4 too, but I don't bother copy pasting them all here.

  13. #10713
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    Tabard and Tights give +9% Crit Damage Bonus and some amount of Crit Rate when paired, why you wouldn't use 4/5 Athos is completely beyond me. I'd probably also go with Kacura +1 head...

  14. #10714
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Man I must have the worst VW luck ever, I'm 0/200 on Pil or around there and haven't even had a chance to do the others... let alone try for new af2+2 -_-
    Same, I haven't even gotten the fucking ring off Voidwrought, and I've done that about 40 times.

  15. #10715
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    I beleive on that denali set the head and legs are reversed

  16. #10716
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    Consider these pieces:
    Ocelomeh Head
    Aias Bonnet

    Toci's Harness
    Athos's Tabard

    Athos's Gloves
    Alcide Mitts+1

    Athos's Tights
    Tumbler Trunks

    Kacura Leggings +1
    Athos's Boots

    Say if I got all of them, which set should I put for CDC?
    I'm considering whether I should bother with Tabard and tights at all.

    Denali hands, legs, and feet +5 are alluring enough that I should just ignore Athos's boots.

    Current best CDC set should be

    Almace/Shikargar/X/Thunder Sachet
    Ocelomen Headpiece +1/Rancor Collar/Moonshade Earring/Brutal Earring
    Athos's Tabard/Athos's Gloves/Rajas Ring/Epona's Ring
    Atheling Mantle/Cuchulain's Belt/Athos's Tights/Athos's Boots


    With the possibility of changing Rancor to moepapa and atheling to rancor.

  17. #10717
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    Consider these pieces:
    Ocelomeh Head
    Aias Bonnet

    Toci's Harness
    Athos's Tabard

    Athos's Gloves
    Alcide Mitts+1

    Athos's Tights
    Tumbler Trunks

    Kacura Leggings +1
    Athos's Boots

    Say if I got all of them, which set should I put for CDC?
    I'm considering whether I should bother with Tabard and tights at all.

    Denali hands, legs, and feet +5 are alluring enough that I should just ignore Athos's boots.
    Tabard is a great eva/BT piece regardless. Legs are possibly less attractive if you're looking forward to Denali +5 but still good for TP and WS in the meantime.

    I've got a couple theories for the Assimilation enhancement that I might test in the next week or so, what do we currently know they don't do?

  18. #10718
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    Pretty much everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    BLU legs

    List that I did earlier this morning that they do not do:
    -Add set points
    -Increase stat bonuses of set spells
    -Increase the effectiveness of traits
    -Reduce spell lockout time

    Additions:
    -No WSC bonus
    -No TP bonus
    -No discernible chance to increase spell damage
    -No correlation bonus
    -No killer bonus

    Additional additions:
    -No increase in fast cast
    -No discernible quick magic chance


    Only things left that I can possibly imagine it being would be increased chance to learn spells or something along that vein, like increased chance of the mob using that spell as was said above, though highly doubtful. Calling it broken for now though.
    Other things I've tried since then on a whim:

    -Do not cause spells to randomly SC or MB without CA/BA
    -Do not cause effects of spells to be enhanced, I.E. poison from Disseverment

  19. #10719
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Alright, thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    Taken from here:
    http://www.geocities.jp/ff11item/test/Armor.html
    Code:
    Denali Bonnet+5		Def34 STR+6 AGI+14 Ratk+6 Macc+6 MAB+6 Crit hit rate+4% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    Denali Jacket+5		Def63 Acc+12 Haste+4% Double Attack+3% Triple Attack+3% Quadruple Attack+3% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    Denali Wristbands+5	Def28 DEX+8 VIT+8 AGI+8 Acc+10 Eva+10 Enhances Fast Cast(+4) Haste+4% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    Denali Kecks+5		Def47 HP+35 STR+9 AGI+9 Atk+14 Eva+14 Haste+6% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    Denali Gamashes+5	Def26 DEX+10 AGI+10 MND+10 Atk+16 Ratk+10 Double Attack+3% Set: Occasionally deals severe damage
    There are +1~+4 too, but I don't bother copy pasting them all here.
    I remember head and legs being reversed in a previous post, they're correct here?

  20. #10720
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    No, they're still backwards.

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