Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[dasva]

Pretty sure that's still reversed considering NQ legs have MAB on them

[Nightfyre]

No, they're still backwards.

Had a feeling that was the case but wanted to be sure Would've been quite alright with getting some haste+6 legs on BLU...

[Byrthnoth]

Honestly, when I look at that set I really think SE was just trolling or there is going to be a (major) catch. Those pieces are too good for many current armors to compete.

[Prothescar]

I have no doubt that it won't be anywhere close to easy to make that +5 set. My guess honestly is alexandrite.

[Nightfyre]

There's no doubt in my mind that it'll be a pain, but a (hopefully decent) new supply of Alex and some vertical progression won't go amiss for me.

[Byrthnoth]

Psh, my hope is that it would be Alexandrite. If only we could be so lucky.

My bet is:
* You won't be able to choose what floor you access in Nyzul directly. They already said there will be no warp system, but I hope they at least give us some minor control (like after a floor you can choose "random" or "up one floor.")
* +1s will require you kill X level 20 bosses with the piece equipped.
* +2s will require you kill X level 40 bosses with the piece equipped.
* +3s will require you kill X level 60 bosses with the piece equipped.
* +4s will require you kill X level 80 bosses with the piece equipped.
* +5s will require you kill X level 100 bosses with the piece equipped.
* I'd bet X is a number between 5 and 10.
* No change to the daily tag system (also something they've said).

It would work out to you having a pretty low chance of completing a trial on any given day. You enter, choose random because you can't clear even 20 floors of hard NI before timing out, and hope you get near/on a boss level. You probably won't, so you choose random again. Maybe you have time to complete 5~6 floors before timing out, so you would have a 5~10% chance of getting one of the kills you need each day depending on the exact system they use.

Honestly, this sounds more like SE to me than "Here is a tangible goal that you can fully control and blitz with gil. Have at it."

[VZX01]

Alright, thanks.


I remember head and legs being reversed in a previous post, they're correct here?

Which previous post you're talking about?

So what is the quantified crit+% boost on Athos's?

[dasva]

I beleive they already said you could chose random or up 1.

[Prothescar]

Which previous post you're talking about?

So what is the quantified crit+% boost on Athos's?

It looks like 2% per piece, my guess is there's also an extra 2% for having all 5 pieces on but I can't see for sure as I don't have the full set.

[Neisan]

Says on OF 1048 post you can pick advance 1 or advance ??? but you still start on F1 regardless of progression, so it isn't like you can spam boss floors.

[VZX01]

It looks like 2% per piece, my guess is there's also an extra 2% for having all 5 pieces on but I can't see for sure as I don't have the full set.

So in order to beat ocelo head + toci's set,
+2 DEX, 5% crit dmg(?), 2% crit rate should be able to beat 13 STR, 10(+6.5 from STR)attack, 2 accuracy, 3% DA and 3% TA. Are you sure on this?

[Prothescar]

99% sure considering CDC's crit rate at 100 and 300TP with appropriate gear and Champion's Drink. Even withotu Champs considering it isn't feasible to have it up 100% of the time every time, you're looking at a substantial crit rate. Decent enough fSTR without the extra 13 on Toci's as well. The 3% DA and TA are the only factors I really see causing any issues for toci vs athos.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Just for the sake of humoring me (moreso cause I'd like some picture evidence to prove something) could you take screenshots of your spell points with and without the pants on to show that there's no increase to the # of spell points acquired? I know it's been said that it doesn't add any, but I'd like some screenshots to basically put that idea to rest.

Honestly you'd have to full time the pants to make it work. Once you swapped out the pants you'd lose those spells and you'd probably be locked out for 2 mins of casting would be my guess. Either way here's your proof and the mystery still stands.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...tsetpoints.jpg

Whirlwind Dirs- Any use for blu ?

[Byrthnoth]

Were any of the BLU spells from the last update nerfed between the final test server update and going live? I removed all the Test Server tags from them on the wiki before I thought to ask <_<;

[Helel]

Nyzul pieces can't be that bad to get if you can only enter with 6 people. I kinda hope the upgrade *doesn't* require alex, otherwise the prices might actually go up, and then everyone will be buying them, including people upgrading mythics. Then again, I hope they do follow through with increasing the drop rate in salvage. I guess it wouldn't be so bad.

[fantasticdan]

Were any of the BLU spells from the last update nerfed between the final test server update and going live? I removed all the Test Server tags from them on the wiki before I thought to ask <_<;

Was amorphic spikes nerfed before live? Or are the people that were clamoring about it on the test server just all retarded?

[transmit]

Just picked up a Toci's Harness (yay only 1/100~). Is there a TP set up for BLU which keeps 26% haste with this on? The most I can come up with is 25% without resorting to something daft like haste pinion.

Wep/Wep/X/Mantis eye
Och+1/Rancor/Brutal/Suppa
Toci/Dusk+1/Raja/Epona
Athling/Twilight/AF3+2/Athos

Is there a piece Im missing to round this up to 26% haste?

[Helel]

Tiercel neck?

[dasva]

Zelus tiara and Ephemeron also offer more in those slots

[transmit]

Ah, Tiercal necklace may have to do! Forgot about that one. Cant use Zelus Tiara as I lose the set bonus.