Blue Mage: Best thread ever

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-18 20:57

Barbed Crescent is broken atm, similar to Hecatomb Wave and Sandspin. Their magic accuracy, as far as I can tell, is being determined only by base stats and is not taking into account accuracy from skill or gear. If it worked, it'd be pretty amazing. -30 Accuracy for 2 minutes is rather nice.

**VZX01** · 2012-01-18 22:38

Originally Posted by fantasticdan

Is VV really that much better than GH if I'm mostly just meleeing anyway? I've been using RR/GH/apoc for eva solos.

I'll still pick GH over VV.

**Yugl** · 2012-01-19 02:50

Originally Posted by Prothescar

Barbed Crescent is broken atm, similar to Hecatomb Wave and Sandspin. Their magic accuracy, as far as I can tell, is being determined only by base stats and is not taking into account accuracy from skill or gear. If it worked, it'd be pretty amazing. -30 Accuracy for 2 minutes is rather nice.

Have you checked with other blind spells? Consistency reigns when you mention sandspin and barbed (ACC reduction), but hecatomb is the genuine blind variety. If other blind spells display this problem, then it's probably a general issue.

**fantasticdan** · 2012-01-19 03:03

Well I gave it a go, and took him down relatively easily. My eva was definitely not capped against him in that setup however, I found myself relying on stun/flash to keep up shadows at times, and a bad luck with his hit rate/DA + tyrant tusk easily could have killed me.

Originally Posted by Prothescar

Barbed Crescent is broken atm, similar to Hecatomb Wave and Sandspin. Their magic accuracy, as far as I can tell, is being determined only by base stats and is not taking into account accuracy from skill or gear. If it worked, it'd be pretty amazing. -30 Accuracy for 2 minutes is rather nice.

Well that sucks, have you reported this to SE?

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-19 03:19

Originally Posted by Yugl

Have you checked with other blind spells? Consistency reigns when you mention sandspin and barbed (ACC reduction), but hecatomb is the genuine blind variety. If other blind spells display this problem, then it's probably a general issue.

No, it's only these three spells. The issue with Sandspin and Hecatomb wave has existed for quite a long time now, and it wasn't always there. It's a bug that, like many BLU bugs, has been ignored.

**Yugl** · 2012-01-19 03:20

That's incredibly troubling since that suggests the effect is intended.

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-19 03:25

It's literally impossible to land the debuffs on monsters above level 50~ ish, even with the use of Elemental Seal I was unable to land the Accuracy Down of Sandspin/Barbed Crescent nor the Blind effect from Hecatomb Wave on Flamingos in sky or Ominous Weapons in Ro'Maeve.

Spiral Spin lands its Accuracy Down nearly without fail, and any other Blind spell in our arsenal yields similar results. It's these spells in particular that have the issue.

Hecatomb Wave and Sandspin already had largely variable durations before this accuracy issue presented itself, however the durations were not related to resistances, they were just variable. If it lands, the duration still is just as variable. This leads me to believe that it's a glitch.

**Churchill** · 2012-01-19 03:53

A shadow ring, if you have one, is handy against Sobek as well.

**Churchill** · 2012-01-19 03:54

Also, the best time to do Sobek is usually Evening-Late JP time as there are no limit to the number of NIN/DNC, THF/DNC, DNC/NIN and similar type duo parties wiping and giving up dat free sobek.

**fantasticdan** · 2012-01-19 04:32

Originally Posted by Churchill

Also, the best time to do Sobek is usually Evening-Late JP time as there are no limit to the number of NIN/DNC, THF/DNC, DNC/NIN and similar type duo parties wiping and giving up dat free sobek.

I've never seen anyone other than me bring less than 4 to sobek on slyph lol, regardless of time. I got a number of free briareus from people wiping/apoc zombieing with 3-6 man groups thou.

**fantasticdan** · 2012-01-19 11:31

Well I've soloed a few more sobeks, and almost died twice, not to tyrant tusk, but rather the gaze petrify move. It's too fast to stun realistically, and he's followed up with blizzaga iv both times I got hit by it. I'm going to start fighting it backwards when he hasn't TPed in a bit, and just turn back and forth to melee.

And on the topic of add. effect enfeebles, how about tourbillion? This is my most used UB spell since I've learned it, and in retrospect, I've rarely seen a 'defense down effect wears off" message in my chat log in association with this spell. I haven't really been looking for it, so I was assuming I've just been missing it, but after hearing about barbed crescent and the others I'm skeptical.

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-19 15:28

Tourbillion hasn't had any accuracy issues in my experience. Also, to help alleviate your Sobek issue, you can spam Reaving Wind to lower his TP frequency. Can get it to a decently low recast time now.

**fantasticdan** · 2012-01-19 15:45

Well turning back and forth to avoid it has been working fine, and getting hit by tyrant tusk isn't even an issue really, since I swapped apoc for SS. I think really the only way I could die the way I'm fighting it, barring lag, is getting hit by blizzaga/tyrant tusk back to back, which I can't see happening outside of 2 sudden lunge misses in a row. I'm surprised how easy a solo this is honestly, this stage is shaping up to be significantly faster than briarieus.

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-19 19:23

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...uo/CDCfuck.png

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...o/CDCfuck2.png

:')

**Foldypaws** · 2012-01-20 14:30

Originally Posted by Prothescar

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...uo/CDCfuck.png

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...o/CDCfuck2.png

:')

That's got to have involved blood rage, as otherwise that'd take an 8 hit all crit WS >_>

**Colenzo** · 2012-01-20 14:39

Originally Posted by Foldypaws

That's got to have involved blood rage, as otherwise that'd take an 8 hit all crit WS >_>

your crit rate is super high with potency drinks :S

**Vriska** · 2012-01-20 15:00

Did you finally get buffs? :']

Best I've ever done is 3.5k, no buffs other than what I can give myself with temps and spells, ofc.

**Yugl** · 2012-01-20 15:01

A double triple and critical hit on all hits is pretty ridiculous.

**Prothescar** · 2012-01-20 16:24

I was in the BLM party, no buffs for me at all aside from my own. My conclusion was 8 hits, all of them hitting and being crits.

Code:

Prothescar              124230    20.21 %       40008           0           0       84222           0          0              0

Prothescar            40008          0     40008   32.20 %     247/18   93.21 %   93.21 %    59/252   107.44   107.44
Prothescar              116   125/527    223.57   46.96 %

Prothescar                  84222          0     84222    67.80 %      37/0   100.00 %    973/4066  2276.27
 - Chant du Cygne           84222          0     84222   100.00 %      37/0   100.00 %    973/4066  2276.27

My info for 3/4 of the Qilin fights. Didn't parse Akvan. Did rather well... BLU can't DD though, that's for sure.

**Foldypaws** · 2012-01-20 17:25

Originally Posted by Colenzo

your crit rate is super high with potency drinks :S

Your triple attack rate isn't though.

BLU has what, 8-11% TA outside of abyssea? (5 from trait 3 from ring and then I think there's 3% elsewhere but I can't remember.)

Even at 100% crit rate, those are at best 1% chances on those numbers.

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