Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Nightfyre]

Got my information off of studio gobli.

http://www32.atwiki.jp/studiogobli/pages/115.html

Sylow/Asymptotic confirmed that it says fTP transfers. That's very interesting and certainly improves Requiescat somewhat if true.

[Prothescar]

... if I add 10 INT I'll add 10 base damage. If I add 10 STR or DEX I'll add either 8 or 9.

That is less.

Which is essentially saying what I am, reread. A majority of the time, 1STR/DEX = 1INT.

I thought he was talking about Daniel_Hatcher in the BST thread, am I missing one of Urteil's classic BLU rants?

Not a full blown rant, just QQing about how BLU has never been nerfed and how BLU physical spell WSC should be lowered by 50% and multihits should be weakened. He's so pro. He's just mad that BLU > DRK in Ballista.

[Cairthenn]

Yay for idiots on official forum asking for a BLU nerf, thankfully SE doesn't read the English forums!

It's only been good for a few months, they'll probably give it awhile anyways.

[Nightfyre]

He's just mad that BLU > DRK in Ballista.

http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/happy-grin.png

Tentatively updated my Requiescat set on XIAH pending fTP verification. Speaking of which, most of the sets are updated or near it now... A few sets still need refinements and I'm in the process of adding about 5 more sets. I was planning to wrap that up today but ended up having to take care of other things all day, so I probably won't get to finish until either Saturday or Monday.

[Martinius]

How do you guys balance DDing and proc'ing in VW? Had a lousy day damagewise on Pil, looking for tips about how to improve things. Could've just been Pil, but generally speaking advice is appreciated.

[Prothescar]

depends on how unlucky you get on procs. I usually dont bother wasting time on NV

[Draylo]

Set my full trait beneficial spells and if its a High/extreme vurn proc, I swap my defensive spell to procs. Botulus/Ig-Alima differ though.

[Foldypaws]

Which is essentially saying what I am, reread. A majority of the time, 1STR/DEX = 1INT.

Neither 8 nor 9 ever equals 10.

[Prothescar]

You're not looking at it correctly. It isn't always going to equal 8 or 9.

[dasva]

Besides set bonus/ba?

[Foldypaws]

You're not looking at it correctly. It isn't always going to equal 8 or 9.

When is 10 dex not going to equal 8 or 9 base damage? (outside of BA)

[dasva]

Nvm I wasn't thinking. 10 dex actually can't ever be 8 or 9 dmg thanks to truncation before multiplying by ftp. It will add 1.7 before ftp so in the end it will either be 5 or 10 not counting set bonus/ba

[Prothescar]

Thanks Dasva~

[Foldypaws]

Thanks Dasva~

Fair enough, I forgot about the flooring. I still think that it's disingenuous to say they're "usually equal" given that a single point of str/dex *might* be worth 5 damage, but will probably be worth nothing, and single point of int will always add one damage.

So, in fact they're *never* equal on a point by point basis. Because neither 0 nor 5 ever equal 1.

And if we're not taking each point individually, on average, str/dex is only worth about 85% as much as int, so they're not equal in that sense either.

[Lonewind]

Not a full blown rant, just QQing about how BLU has never been nerfed and how BLU physical spell WSC should be lowered by 50% and multihits should be weakened. He's so pro. He's just mad that BLU > DRK in Ballista.

Seeing his offer on ffxiah makes me want to hop to his server and ballista him on a daily basis, probably the fastest way to farm dynamis currency XD

[Byrthnoth]

I've heard several times that he doesn't actually pay up when he loses.

[Prothescar]

Fair enough, I forgot about the flooring. I still think that it's disingenuous to say they're "usually equal" given that a single point of str/dex *might* be worth 5 damage, but will probably be worth nothing, and single point of int will always add one damage.

So, in fact they're *never* equal on a point by point basis. Because neither 0 nor 5 ever equal 1.

And if we're not taking each point individually, on average, str/dex is only worth about 85% as much as int, so they're not equal in that sense either.

Fair enough

I've heard several times that he doesn't actually pay up when he loses.

He doesn't. He'll be the first to bitch though

[dasva]

Well on average you'd want to account for set bonus and ba if you aren't using different sets for it.

But tbh the average is close enough that it would rarely make much of a difference in gear choices. Basically generally equal amounts int will win. But just 1 more dex or str and they will usually win. Really you should probably just check for flooring with various gearsets based on your stats to see if you care that much. And actually might not be a bad idea.

[Prothescar]

I really don't care enough about the damage of the spell to go into great lengths about its power outside of BA, however the set that I posted above should be sufficient or optimal even without the use of BA or the luck of a set proc.

In the end its only real use is lowering Botulus Rex's INT so your BLMs can nuke mo' bettah.

[Vriska]

Set my full trait beneficial spells and if its a High/extreme vurn proc, I swap my defensive spell to procs. Botulus/Ig-Alima differ though.

Basically this. On shit where no proc = death, I'll keep my half of the procs up all the time, otherwise I don't. Tends to get me yelled at and told I'm just there to proc, not to do damage, and to leave the damage up to the big boys, despite the fact that I am definitely no slouch -_- I'm getting so frustrated with being told to shoot myself in the foot every time I go to a VW that I'm considering finishing up my Armageddon and perma-CORing myself.