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  1. #11041
    Ridill
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    Holy crap that's long... but whats the base?

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    If you're looking to test the TP bonus stuff, use Sekkanoki and that should only use 100TP for the spell.

  3. #11043
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    But tp bonus doesn't work with sekkanoki....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    But tp bonus doesn't work with sekkanoki....
    You're looking for the base, so you would do it without the TP bonus first to obtain that.

  5. #11045
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Holy crap that's long... but whats the base?
    Base duration is 1:30 and it caps at 3:00

    Use efflux with no +2 pants on. 100 TP. What exactly are you testing?

  6. #11046
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imoq View Post
    Bleh, I just leveled BLU and came to this thread to "learn" some advanced stuff about it, or at least to read interesting discussions regarding the job!

    So far, from reading 10? 12? last pages I just learned that some wolves are so stubborn that it gave me a bad headache.

    I'll come back to this thread when people actually discuss BLU stuff, I guess.
    People argue on the internet. Who knew that such things happened?

  7. #11047
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    Not to mention it technically pertains to advanced BLU stuff, but whatevs.

  8. #11048
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Base duration is 1:30 and it caps at 3:00

    Use efflux with no +2 pants on. 100 TP. What exactly are you testing?
    Fencer.

  9. #11049
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Wait if base duration is 90 sec and cap is 180 and you get 3.3/tp... you cap at 28 tp? Which basically means CA will always cap you with enchainment?

    Fencer
    Won't work with BLU spells. TP independent of Chain Affinity and Efflux has no effect.

  10. #11050
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    Yeah already figured that out... also

    Wait if base duration is 90 sec and cap is 180 and you get 3.3/tp... you cap at 28 tp? Which basically means CA will always cap you with enchainment?

  11. #11051
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    No I derped, it's much less than that as it caps at 300TP. I haven't got a clue where my notes for queasyshroom are, but if it's a linear scale is should be .3 seconds per point of TP.

  12. #11052
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    Also a sidenote... alot of this thread needs to be on bg wiki. So much stuff someone in here is like oh yeah that was tested long ago blah. Hell alot of spells don't even have dmg types or stats on them...

  13. #11053
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    It's mostly stuff that I've had and never bothered sharing because it's insignificant. I have details of pretty much any spell we have, just have to ask.

  14. #11054
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    I'd be willing to put data on the wiki pages over the next weekish if you guys can PM it to me or leave it here.

  15. #11055
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    There's a metric fuckton of data, so without knowing what you want @.@

    I'll do it some time I guess. I have fTPs, WSCs, debuff durations, debuff potency, etc. for all of our spells, just didn't think it too important to know most of them.

  16. #11056
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    Anything's fine really. fTP/WSC data in particular would definitely be useful along with acc/attack modifications, much of it's not on wiki yet and I'll need that info eventually for a small project I'm working on. 76+ stuff in particular.

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    This might be useful if you decide to start adding a lot of information. I think Blackrose made it a few months ago, but most of the spells never got updated.

  18. #11058
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    I've got all of that. It's all in the spreadsheet that I use... probably the most comprehensive BLU database there is. Unfortunately, no, it's not being made public. Will put the spell information up though when I have time. Sharing the fTP and WSC of Foot Kick isn't one of my most expedited activities atm @@

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    Why would you even mention something like that if you are not willing to make it public? Not like you are hiding some amazing gil making scheme.

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    It isn't for me to give

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