Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Kaope]

Oce+1/Rancor/Brutal/TP bonus earring
Toci's/Athos's/Rajas/Epona's
Atheling/Wanion/Athos's/Thaumas

That's what I've been using, but if you have Myrmex Mittens though, probably it's better to swap out Athos's legs with Thaumas Kecks.

[doctorugh]

NVM

[Nishida]

I'm slowly, but surely getting my BLU up to useable status. Right now I have 5/8 proc spells, and a couple other random ones. I am nowhere near done on spells. Also, still need to get sword and blue magic leveled up. Currently Blue magic is level 218~. The skillup script uses the healing spells to skill up, but Pollen alone slowed skillups to a crawl. If I get Wild Carrot and Magic Fruit will skillups pick back up? Trying to spam blue magic while leveling sword up is going really slow.

Also curious about gear. BLU takes 5000 gear sets, and I am still very up and coming in FFXI. Been focusing mostly on BST as I'm farming with it.

Here is my current gear set for TP:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/267693

I am 1 zone boss away from being able to start Shinryu, so Twilight Belt may be coming soon~. I am going to buy a Rancor Collar after my next Dyna run. Atheling Mantle I am trying to get, but now that it's not 100% it sucks trying to get. Dusk Gloves +1 will last me until I can get Brego gloves. I am on 4-3 COP so I need to finish that to get my Rajas. My LS is supposedly going to do some Rani's eventually (we'll see ._.) so Epona's is coming possibly on that. Ammo, I am going to use Mavi Tathlum whenever I can get one. For Head/Body, should I use Ocelomeh set, or AF3?

[doctorugh]

Does everyone really TP in Rancor? The -15% DT between that and Twilight is really off putting to me.

[dasva]

You tp in twilight?

[Damane]

I'm slowly, but surely getting my BLU up to useable status. Right now I have 5/8 proc spells, and a couple other random ones. I am nowhere near done on spells. Also, still need to get sword and blue magic leveled up. Currently Blue magic is level 218~. The skillup script uses the healing spells to skill up, but Pollen alone slowed skillups to a crawl. If I get Wild Carrot and Magic Fruit will skillups pick back up? Trying to spam blue magic while leveling sword up is going really slow.

Also curious about gear. BLU takes 5000 gear sets, and I am still very up and coming in FFXI. Been focusing mostly on BST as I'm farming with it.

Here is my current gear set for TP:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/267693

I am 1 zone boss away from being able to start Shinryu, so Twilight Belt may be coming soon~. I am going to buy a Rancor Collar after my next Dyna run. Atheling Mantle I am trying to get, but now that it's not 100% it sucks trying to get. Dusk Gloves +1 will last me until I can get Brego gloves. I am on 4-3 COP so I need to finish that to get my Rajas. My LS is supposedly going to do some Rani's eventually (we'll see ._.) so Epona's is coming possibly on that. Ammo, I am going to use Mavi Tathlum whenever I can get one. For Head/Body, should I use Ocelomeh set, or AF3?

I just finsihed to farm all spells (-asuran claw and the unbribled learning ones) and started to gear up. I reached allready my inventory limit with BLU and still wanted to do more, There is just no space to fit in:
PDT, Cure potency, FAst cast, TP gear, different WS gears, various physical nuke spells, various magical nuke spells, Idle refresh set for 6 MP, blu magic skill gear, evasion gear. I could go on. Shit is retarded... I dumped my physical nuke spell set down to 1-2 (thx to thaumas) and the toneing donw of the magical nuke sets is undergoing now... 80 inventory space is just too little for this job.

btw I am useing atm 39203920 windower scripts. Can someone direct me to an easy to use BLU spellcast script? I allways used windower scripts and never used spellcast, but for this job its just not enough. I tried Yugls spellcast script to modify, but shit is complicated for a first time spellcast user (i got an error...)

[Fereydoon]

I'm slowly, but surely getting my BLU up to useable status. Right now I have 5/8 proc spells, and a couple other random ones. I am nowhere near done on spells. Also, still need to get sword and blue magic leveled up. Currently Blue magic is level 218~. The skillup script uses the healing spells to skill up, but Pollen alone slowed skillups to a crawl. If I get Wild Carrot and Magic Fruit will skillups pick back up? Trying to spam blue magic while leveling sword up is going really slow.

Also curious about gear. BLU takes 5000 gear sets, and I am still very up and coming in FFXI. Been focusing mostly on BST as I'm farming with it.

Here is my current gear set for TP:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/267693

I am 1 zone boss away from being able to start Shinryu, so Twilight Belt may be coming soon~. I am going to buy a Rancor Collar after my next Dyna run. Atheling Mantle I am trying to get, but now that it's not 100% it sucks trying to get. Dusk Gloves +1 will last me until I can get Brego gloves. I am on 4-3 COP so I need to finish that to get my Rajas. My LS is supposedly going to do some Rani's eventually (we'll see ._.) so Epona's is coming possibly on that. Ammo, I am going to use Mavi Tathlum whenever I can get one. For Head/Body, should I use Ocelomeh set, or AF3?

Skill ups will be the same with any of the healing spells, go out and cast bludgeon on shit.

Also when did Atheling stop being 100%? >_>

[SaviorSelf]

I'm slowly, but surely getting my BLU up to useable status. Right now I have 5/8 proc spells, and a couple other random ones. I am nowhere near done on spells. Also, still need to get sword and blue magic leveled up. Currently Blue magic is level 218~. The skillup script uses the healing spells to skill up, but Pollen alone slowed skillups to a crawl. If I get Wild Carrot and Magic Fruit will skillups pick back up? Trying to spam blue magic while leveling sword up is going really slow.

Also curious about gear. BLU takes 5000 gear sets, and I am still very up and coming in FFXI. Been focusing mostly on BST as I'm farming with it.

Here is my current gear set for TP:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/267693

I am 1 zone boss away from being able to start Shinryu, so Twilight Belt may be coming soon~. I am going to buy a Rancor Collar after my next Dyna run. Atheling Mantle I am trying to get, but now that it's not 100% it sucks trying to get. Dusk Gloves +1 will last me until I can get Brego gloves. I am on 4-3 COP so I need to finish that to get my Rajas. My LS is supposedly going to do some Rani's eventually (we'll see ._.) so Epona's is coming possibly on that. Ammo, I am going to use Mavi Tathlum whenever I can get one. For Head/Body, should I use Ocelomeh set, or AF3?

BLU can't use Brego.

[Prothescar]

Will leave this here again. Should probably put in my signature or something, has all of the information you'd be looking for about BLU including XMLs.

Does everyone really TP in Rancor? The -15% DT between that and Twilight is really off putting to me.

Really hope you aren't suggesting that we TP in twilight collar

[doctorugh]

I enjoy doing damage as much as the next guy, but there has to be some trade off for party benefit (or soloing). Where does it end? Would you add another 5 crit for another 15% DT? And I'm not trying to pass judgement, I'm just looking for the rational.

[Prothescar]

I don't generally take enough damage for it to matter in the slightest between actual PDT/MDT swaps, fantics, etc., and if I do I switch to something that's actually useful, like a Nefarious Collar, or if I had one a Portus Collar. Twilight for a TP set isn't an option, nor should it ever have to be.

[Ophannus]

Even when solo, Rancor is boss. Shit never really hits you between Shadows/Evasion/Stun locks.

Also BLU magic caps extremely fast. I was using skillup food and made a windower script (could also use Exiled) to spam Footkick/Power Attack every 4 seconds alternating. I threw on PDT gear and regen atmas, ran a Tough Bluffalo to a corner and went afk for like 20min. When I came back my Blue Magic skill was like 30-40 skill levels higher than it was before, rinse+repeat. Another way which is actually faster is to find someone with a relatively high level NPC(preferably 95), get some refresh gear or have someone refresh II and spam Wild Carrot on the NPC. You get like 0.4-0.5 almost every cast ala Besieged NPCs.

My windower script for skillups consisted of like 1000's of lines of:

Spoiler: show

input /magic "Foot Kick" <t>;

pause 4;

input /magic "Power Attack" <t>;

pause 4;

input /magic "Foot Kick" <t>;

pause 4;

input /magic "Power Attack" <t>;

pause 4;

I found the 4 second delay was exactly enough to cast it continuously with /RDM's fastcast with thaumas hands/athos head fastcast gear without a "you must wait longer to execute that command" error. Could change up the delay but 4-4.2 is plenty.

[doctorugh]

I left because the game became too easy (and some new blue spells were not working correctly, {wth}), but popped back in recently when I heard there was the possibility of an additional expansion and the current developer was leaving. Ultimately I hope that the game increases in difficulty so that choices between +damage and damage taken matter at all. As it is, it appears its only a difference btw time to inevitable defeat of your enemy. (Crosses fingers with expansion). Btw very nice guide Prothescar. /MNK with counterstance and Occulation can work and has few uses also.

[Nishida]

Will leave this here again. Should probably put in my signature or something, has all of the information you'd be looking for about BLU including XMLs.


Really hope you aren't suggesting that we TP in twilight collar

Your OP doesn't explain gear choices vs. other options. It just says "Can possibly use xxx item". I'm wondering how Ocelo set compares to blu af3 head/body +1 and +2.

[Prothescar]

crushes it unless we're talking about NQ harness/head, and unless your dDEX is capped/hitrate is abyssmal

[Yugl]

Can someone direct me to an easy to use BLU spellcast script? I allways used windower scripts and never used spellcast, but for this job its just not enough. I tried Yugls spellcast script to modify, but shit is complicated for a first time spellcast user (i got an error...)

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/107...h-Pastebin.com)

I recently linked to Imoq's guildwork profile which has a very simple BLU XML if you're interested in that.

[Nishida]

crushes it unless we're talking about NQ harness/head, and unless your dDEX is capped/hitrate is abyssmal

Assuming Ocelomeh Head/Body NQ, and AF3+1 Head/Body. Which would win under normal circumstances? AF3?

It's going to be a while before I get HQ of any gear unless the HQ is 1m or less.

[Vlorsutes]

I left because the game became too easy (and some new blue spells were not working correctly, {wth}), but popped back in recently when I heard there was the possibility of an additional expansion and the current developer was leaving. Ultimately I hope that the game increases in difficulty so that choices between +damage and damage taken matter at all. As it is, it appears its only a difference btw time to inevitable defeat of your enemy. (Crosses fingers with expansion). Btw very nice guide Prothescar. /MNK with counterstance and Occulation can work and has few uses also.

You have to look at it from this perspective: If you take 100 damage from a normal attack without a Rancor Collar on, that same attack is only going to do 110 damage to you with the Collar on. Damage Taken +10% may sound like it's a lot, but for most normal melee attacks it won't actually be that big of an increase. Likewise, if you know you are going to take a large amount of damage from a spell or TP move (which should be the only situation where you'll be taken enough damage from a single attack to where the +10% might be significant), you can simply swap to a -PDT/-MDT gear set.

[Prothescar]

Assuming Ocelomeh Head/Body NQ, and AF3+1 Head/Body. Which would win under normal circumstances? AF3?

It's going to be a while before I get HQ of any gear unless the HQ is 1m or less.

If we're looking at NQ vs. +1 only, particularly with your other gear, I'd go with +1. You're already uncapped on haste, and you're likely to gain something out of the extra accuracy on empyrean if you plan on doing anything serious.

[Ophannus]

Should I use a DEX/INT set for Amorphic? I really can't get it to do similar damage to Quadratic(5 hit spell vs 4 hit, not sure why 5 hit isn't trouncing it).

With CA up, I'm using:
Almace/STR Shik
Mavi Tathlum
Oceloh+1
Ire+1
Flamex2 earrings(flame pearl's are never on AH)
AF1+1 body
Thaumas hands
Thundersoul/Rajas
Zafre
Pipalka Belt
Mavi Tayt+2
Thaumas Nails

Blue Skill:478
STR91+65
DEX95+80
INT86+4

CA Amorphics are doing like 1700-2.2kish but CA QC are doing 2.7k+