Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[enoch]

Kind of, not really. The only time I can get ppl interested in helping for MMM is directly following either ADL or Legion, so I don't get much choice in jobs. I've gone as RDM/BLM or /SCH and have tried T3's and T4 spells without much nuking gear on me at the time. Results weren't very good, with damage in the 300-400 range. Which equates to about 1% or less dmg on the thing. Apparently it's got a lot of hp.

[Yugl]

Understood; thanks.

[Nightfyre]

How soloable are those NMs now?

Pretty sure they scale to your level, so adding a Supreme Might rune should put them in VT/IT territory even at 99.

I believe the "job" runes affect base stats as well as abilities; unsure how resonating that rune might impact such.

[enoch]

FWIW, with Dark Magic on, it spams absorb spells. Didn't put on any job-related runes. With a couple good DD and a support mage, it dies before we get any sort of maze rumbling. As such, I'm also gonna try adding 100 - Trial by Velocity. Probably only get extra marbles, but who knows? Worth a try, I guess.

[dasva]

Yeah they do scale. Even using runes to lower the lvl slightly to around dc lvl they aint the easiest to solo. At least on thf/nin lol.

[Kaisha]

I thought the content scaled based on the lowest level in the group, unless they changed that long ago?

[Prothescar]

After the hell that was getting a Koggelmander to drop, idk if I'll ever be able to do another MMM drop again, particularly for such a small or nonexistent gain as an Antica Ring :C

[dasva]

I thought the content scaled based on the lowest level in the group, unless they changed that long ago?

iirc the normal enemy ones scale like that and the NM fights scale by the highest lvl in group

[enoch]

Granted, it's not a huge difference between 499 skill and 500. Still, after all the shit I had to kill in sky for +5 on feet, figure I might as well take it all the way and do some of my own tests. I'd love it if 500 tier did unexpected things like.. say... 2.5x def for harden shell instead of just 2x. Is there a list compiled somewhere of all the effects of 500 tier? Usually all I see is "wow 10th occultation shadow, big whoop."

[Sho]

I just did this a few days ago as well. Ochain PLD friend, his WHM mule, me on COR, and my BST mule. Works pretty well for a ghetto lowman. Magic in the form Wildfire pretty much rapes the mob (1300~1500 with crappy WS gear), and not much acc is needed past /RNG trait and sharpshot to keep it going. Used Enhancing Magic instead of Dark Magic runes; we take turns spamming dispel on him, since it's more buffs in addition to him naturally spamming evasion boost.

Still, no ring.

[Prothescar]

Granted, it's not a huge difference between 499 skill and 500. Still, after all the shit I had to kill in sky for +5 on feet, figure I might as well take it all the way and do some of my own tests. I'd love it if 500 tier did unexpected things like.. say... 2.5x def for harden shell instead of just 2x. Is there a list compiled somewhere of all the effects of 500 tier? Usually all I see is "wow 10th occultation shadow, big whoop."

'Cause that's pretty much all it does in terms of buffs and the like, as if there were other spells that varied based on skill they'd be variable on more than one point. Generally worthless outside of being able to say you have 500 blue magic skill.

[enoch]

Gonna just say low drop rate. Still no drops with 2 runs with those previously mentioned resonating. Will keep at it and check back in when I hit paydirt.

[doctorugh]

Some testing while bored, added to wiki:

QS: 25% att bonus, makes it more viable at high levels (10 L+)over other physical spells than I had previously thought

AS: 12.5% att bonus

Bloodrake: 25% att bonus

[Yugl]

Can you add the data here please? Also, this was a while back, but I could use the pDIF data as well (I think Proth said he had this?).

[Draylo]

The beetle is definitely soloable, Sanguine Blade does decent dmg against it from what I recall.

[Prothescar]

Can't find the pDIF data, beginning to think it's on one of my backup HDDs or an old one. For now I'll unfortunately have to fall into the "can't prove it" pile. :\

[Nishida]

So are we still hanging onto MAcc merits instead of Phys Potency for now?

[fantasticdan]

Is there some kind of hidden effect on sanus ensis? I did bhaflau remnants for a while on bst, and the empathetic flans typically go into spikey head mode almost immediately, and never change back. I switched to going on blu for the extra TH, and I've noticed it takes them a long ass time to go into spike mode using almace + sanus ensis, infact a couple times I've had to switch to my 1 dmg cooking dagger + dream bell to avoid killing them prematurely. I didn't think much of it until today, when I had the rampart not pop after killing all 4 after going into spike mode. I looked at the log, and judging by my melee damage, one of them switched out of spike mode right before it died. I wasn't using requiescat/skillchains/magical spells/etc. I had this happen once before, but I had a thf with me, and I figured it was a fluke skillchain or something (despite it not being in either of our logs).

The only other thing I can think of is physical spells are counting for their 'magic damage' counter.

[Prothescar]

Not one that's ever been tested. Would be cool if it did have such a thing. I'm almost certain it wouldn't be a full on thing like Requiescat and such though... I'm pretty sure I've melee'd a rogue elemental here and there with an ensis on.

[Darkmagi]

Just went up to sky to test, 2 whole elemental fights with all normal expected damage. Must have been something else. Also not sure if it has been tested before, but Hemidall's Doom is not magic damage like Twilight Scythe.