Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Not Kuno]

Is it normal for your dmg to drop out at around 60-62? Death scizzors was nice but Ive noticed alot of my spells have been doing less and less dmg the higher I get. Any advice or is my gear just starting to suck?

Once you get Frenetic Rip your dmg will go up. Rip is really good.

Thankfully I managed to get that one. How much dmg does it do? Also I'm probably going to be missing alot of 60~ spells since they arn't easy to get. Is body slam/spinal cleave worth getting?

[Moochi]

[quote=Not Kuno]

Is it normal for your dmg to drop out at around 60-62? Death scizzors was nice but Ive noticed alot of my spells have been doing less and less dmg the higher I get. Any advice or is my gear just starting to suck?

Once you get Frenetic Rip your dmg will go up. Rip is really good.

Thankfully I managed to get that one. How much dmg does it do? Also I'm probably going to be missing alot of 60~ spells since they arn't easy to get. Is body slam/spinal cleave worth getting?[/quote:a5982]

Hmm. I think it did like 200-600 at that level, sometimes you'll get into the 700s. Spinal Cleave is good with SA. Body Slam...I really don't know lol. Only spell I don't have. I havn't really bothered getting it. Though, most AoE spells kinda suck so.

[Not Kuno]

Well the problem with Spinal Cleave is that I dont have it. I've been to various Besieged trying to learn it with no luck. Any tips on how to learn stuff there? I know you can learn it solo but Ive touched all the qutrub and stuff and no luck at all.

[Gulkeeva]

I went with a small group and me and the other blu got it first kill, just need to smack'em when he has the weapon out, and careful not to break his 2nd. The entire PT had all swords so dunno much else, maybe criticals breaks it.

Only thing I like about spinal cleave is it can do upwards to 700 and it can be sa'ed, its a ranged attack (small range at that)
uhh.. dunno how well to show the range but its definantly nice to sa and hit whatever your chasing

oh and I think my highest so far (before lv64) was 993 frenetic rip on a Puk around 300% Tp sa+ca (highest around 600's jsut sa)

Highest death scissors was 1411 (first one after lv64) with around 150% Tp on a puk

both done with 2 corsairs in PT, using sole sushi, rogues and hunter roll (no idea on the #)

these puk msotly check VT though and some V
one the corsair did a slugshot for about 1100 on it though

Personnaly I only seeing higher #'s as I poke stuff since even stuff listed as lv80 on somepage.com I can still sa+ca for near 1000

I currently have +43 STR using a Cresent sword (using ifirit blade at Lv 65 for 3 STR)

[Not Kuno]

Would you recommend subbing thf at 60+ then? I'm subbing nin, is thf that much better?

[FFXIFlux]

Would you recommend subbing thf at 60+ then? I'm subbing nin, is thf that much better?

Going /THF isn't really a help in XP. And I wouldn't worry about spinal cleave, as you'll never use it.

[FFXIFlux]

Head butt does work. It's stuns him maybe 25%~ of the time but it only sticks for 0.1 second or something. It doesn't make him flail though that's for sure (mobs never really move when you head butt them, it's just the animation).

Jettaru has a really high stick rate it seems, very rarely resisted, might be worthwhile to try on HNM if you can get past the fact that it's AE. Similarly Temporal Shift seems to be BLU's actual stun that is never resisted. Too bad it costs a lot more and has a longer recast.

[Gulkeeva]

Would you recommend subbing thf at 60+ then? I'm subbing nin, is thf that much better?

I've always subbed thf after lv30, and I havne't bothered with sneak sata... I just pretty much plow stuff down from 50% and below

Lets just say... ca death scissors averages (for me) 400-600 at 100% Tp.. with sneak attack its like 800~1200 (on VT)
Spinal cleave does anywhere from 30~300 to VT, sa'ed its 400-700 (ca only boots its damage slightly, and more accurate)

I used sa mandibular bite and ca sickle slash alot before lv60 (this is good for VT stuff) and dunno why but sa sickle slash and ca mandibular works better on IT+ stuff damage wise both average 300-450
works nice on puks, when your being tossed everywhere

Personnaly blu/nin is great for solo or a PT you know your probably going to be dying in, but if you want to rape stuff hard and fast before it can kill you or you jsut want to absolutly massacre stuff, I'd go with the sj thf
sj nin I seen don't really do anything comparable to what a blu/thf cna do to VT, much less IT. But yeah nin is nice for maybe a burn PT, where hate it jsut going everywhere. IT+ mobs, sj thf if you want to do some good damage i'd say


I doubt I'd ever hit 1000+ on IT without sj thf...
basically most fights (IT+) I wait for about 2 provokes, sa frenetic rip and usualy sa is back up by time the mob is 40% ish and jsut 1 shot it with the TP builtup

[Celeras]

Head butt does work. It's stuns him maybe 25%~ of the time but it only sticks for 0.1 second or something. It doesn't make him flail though that's for sure (mobs never really move when you head butt them, it's just the animation).

Jettaru has a really high stick rate it seems, very rarely resisted, might be worthwhile to try on HNM if you can get past the fact that it's AE. Similarly Temporal Shift seems to be BLU's actual stun that is never resisted. Too bad it costs a lot more and has a longer recast.

Used blu in sea today. Few outside jailers, fort inside. Stuns never proc'ed, jettatura/burst/shift never landed. Only time I felt remotely useful is when I threw a Light SC on Fort, and when casting magic fruit.

Verdict is still out on whether or not blu can tank decently, but from where im sitting its only real usefulness is TPless SCs on wyrms.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Head butt does work. It's stuns him maybe 25%~ of the time but it only sticks for 0.1 second or something. It doesn't make him flail though that's for sure (mobs never really move when you head butt them, it's just the animation).

Jettaru has a really high stick rate it seems, very rarely resisted, might be worthwhile to try on HNM if you can get past the fact that it's AE. Similarly Temporal Shift seems to be BLU's actual stun that is never resisted. Too bad it costs a lot more and has a longer recast.

Used blu in sea today. Few outside jailers, fort inside. Stuns never proc'ed, jettatura/burst/shift never landed. Only time I felt remotely useful is when I threw a Light SC on Fort, and when casting magic fruit.

Verdict is still out on whether or not blu can tank decently, but from where im sitting its only real usefulness is TPless SCs on wyrms.

Don't make such a judgement yet. Keep trying things, its not been well explored yet. Hell, think how long it took for SAM to be respected as a DD.

[DrObvious]

Is it normal for your dmg to drop out at around 60-62? Death scizzors was nice but Ive noticed alot of my spells have been doing less and less dmg the higher I get. Any advice or is my gear just starting to suck?

Which spells are these? I'm still seeing 150-200 sickle slashes and mandibular bites(sometimes higher) which seems pretty normal to me w/o sa or ca etc.

[Not Kuno]

Is it normal for your dmg to drop out at around 60-62? Death scizzors was nice but Ive noticed alot of my spells have been doing less and less dmg the higher I get. Any advice or is my gear just starting to suck?

Which spells are these? I'm still seeing 150-200 sickle slashes and mandibular bites(sometimes higher) which seems pretty normal to me w/o sa or ca etc.

Well my dmg got better today with /thf and when I got Frenetic Rip. My gear hasn't changed all that much the last say 40 levels or so. What gear do other people use? I still mostly wear RSE and stuff. <_< And yeah I mostly just use bite/slash/death scissors/rip. Rip has been nice with CA.

[Gulkeeva]

Lv64

blu/thf

weapon:crecent sword (Lv65 ifirits blade)
head: voyager sallet
body: flora cotahadre
back: amemet +1
neck: Pcharm (spike necklace for sa or sa+ca attacks)
ring 1: serket ring
ring 2:victory ring
waist: vangaurd belt
legs: savage loincloth
feet: savage gaiters
earring1hantomearring+1
earring2:minuet earring
throwing:mroion thalium

sole sushi, and using all +STR spells currently at +43STR~46 (+49 STR at lv 65)

[Airshort7]

At lv 75 I wear linen slacks still. XD

[Not Kuno]

Do you notice a real difference between all the str and not? I wear mostly acc gear so I don't have that much str.

[FFXIFlux]

Do you notice a real difference between all the str and not? I wear mostly acc gear so I don't have that much str.

Getting a "fails to take effect" sucks, boosting accuracy eliminates those on things like mandibular bite and seems to make rip damage consistantly higher. So to me accuracy seemed to be the biggest benefit, to the point that I'd sometimes swap vermillion for scorpion harness+hairpin/o.hat. Aside from peacock/lifebelt/scorpion harness/o.hat everything was STR and attack gear (aside from those couple times I main healed as blu/whm), but mithra have low base STR. At 75 I'm still not breaking 100 STR without food. BLU sure have a lot of HP though.

[Cythe]

Do you notice a real difference between all the str and not? I wear mostly acc gear so I don't have that much str.

Yes, the STR will make a huge difference. I rock just about as much +STR as possible on WS, and my +DEX isn't bad between sushi, Voyagers, Spike, RSE1 gloves, and RSE2 boots(Hume). I swap in all the possible STR gear I have for SA or TA(CA when it's up as well), and it usually pushes my DS damage well above 900. After SATA'ing DS onto the tank, I usually keep all this STR gear on and get a hit or miss Frenetic Rip for massive damage. Hysteric Barrage is great too, but the damage on that is way more variable.

I usually stick with the ACC gear between SATA, swap in all my STR for SATA, and then back to acc gear. I will dump more STR or acc in accordance with how much trouble I am having landing my spells. Just experiment a bit, you'll find your medium.

[Tanthalas]

Yeah, I think what's being overlooked in the past 2 pages here is Vorpal Blade. In VT Burn XP PT and Merit PT's, just using Vorpal Blade and using CA whenever it's convenient without wasting too much of potential TP towards WS (usually after I WS) with a Frenetic Rip or Disseverment or Hysteric Barrage works the best for overall DoT.

With a few sword merits and full haste gear (Walahra, Homam, Dusk), just spamming Vorpal Blade seems to me better overall DoT than waiting for CA and blowing through too much of your MP.

[Gulkeeva]

Do you notice a real difference between all the str and not? I wear mostly acc gear so I don't have that much str.

I've been staticing mainly but other blu/nin I've randomly seen in PT usualy don't break 550ish unless the mobs VT, they usualy do 100~350? ish on average (haven't pt'ed with a blu/nin using frenetic rip)

I'll have my 8 sword merits active at Lv65 instead of 7, should have savage blade then (233 sword skill at Lv 64, think +5 from Lvup? and +2 from merit should put me at 240 for it)
but anyway things like magnetic eruca frenetic rip does 230~550 without SA, constant 400+ with SA to near 700's and death scissors still doin 700~1200 ranges.

only accuracy I wear is pretty much Pcharm, and using sole sushi. My blue magic hits alot more then my sword... thats for sure. Personnaly I think the Blue magic accuracy may depend on weapon DMG rating and or lvl then the +acc on it, that and the sword merits are great blue magic for me hardly misses (well with exception of frieghtful roar).

I still use mandibular bite at my lvl since tossing it on a IT mob still does about 200 with no sa or ca

oh and, I do like vorpal blade but I don't use it often (and only on VT mobs) as mentioned above, my melee attacks don't seem to do well so I saveup for a killshot with my TP since vorpal does anywhere from 50~450 for me, which could be put into a 800~1000+ blue magic spell on IT mobs

[Airshort7]

Blue mage sub nin versus Bune = give me more blue magic skill = =

I have +8 skill in blue magic merits but Head butt sure likes to resist at the worst times. Tanked him fine from 85% to 65% at which he fang rushed me when trying to get to ichi and well, good game me.