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  1. #11781
    Impossiblu
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    Prothescar Centursa
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    Balmung
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    Subtle Blow has always affected spells, dAGI is a no brainer in that regard, and it was never changed that each hit gives full TP.

    Worth noting that all blue magic has very a slim chance to break wings/horns/etc., not just crits.

  2. #11782
    CoP Dynamis
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    Bahamut

    Bollocks. Do they heal?

  3. #11783
    Impossiblu
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    Nah. Keep in mind I've only seen it a couple of times, it isn't common by any stretch, you'll be fine.

  4. #11784
    New Spam Forum
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    Bahamut

    roundsey wand
    kitty rod
    or some other 1 damage weapon.

  5. #11785
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Fenrir

    I'd just spam Dia/Stone/etc, I seem to recall D1 weapons still being able to break wings on crits.

  6. #11786
    Nidhogg
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Diabolos

    Dia/Bludgeon is the way to go. I broke wings with first crit of my Trainee Sword at 99% health.

  7. #11787
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Yeah I didn't even bother meleeing it when I tried, we failed twice due to wings breaking on the assault.

  8. #11788
    I enjoy tapping my sisters fine ass
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    doing the ZNM was worth it to learn it. Fucker spams it.

  9. #11789
    Ridill
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    Bahamut

    Yeah I tried nyzle a few times and it just wouldn't learn... like 6 of them using it. So we just spammed assualt and all learned it right away lol

  10. #11790
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
    Sepukku is my Hero
    Therrien's Cum Dumpster

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    Gilgamesh

    I could post this in RQT, but its very blu related...this VW blu has "dark water ice fire earth" set, which should be impossible, since thats 62 points. Do they know something I dont? They are JP afterall, but theyre subbing pld.

    Or they possibly didnt set sandspray since were doing Hahava and it should be practically immune to it?

  11. #11791
    Nidhogg
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    Diabolos

    Probably missing/forgot about a spell or isn't aware of one of the procs. Ask him how many spells he has set

  12. #11792
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I could post this in RQT, but its very blu related...this VW blu has "dark water ice fire earth" set, which should be impossible, since thats 62 points. Do they know something I dont? They are JP afterall, but theyre subbing pld.

    Or they possibly didnt set sandspray since were doing Hahava and it should be practically immune to it?
    They don't have AE listed for water; if they didn't set the other spell as well, that would explain what they did.

    http://translate.google.com/translat...ed=0CDIQ7gEwAA

  13. #11793
    Yoshi P
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    With capped gear haste + haste spell + (current) embrava, can I cap delay with just DW2(or 1)?

  14. #11794
    Smells like Onions
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    Haste and DW (delay reduction) are accounted for multiplicative, not additive. Since magic haste caps at 43.75%, and gear at 25% (additive), this gives you 68.75% delay reduction, or you're now attacking at 31.25% of your initial delay. DW1 is 10% and is multiplied to your current delay meaning 31.25*.9= 28.125% delay.

    DW2: 31.25*.85 = 26.56%
    DW3: 31.25*.75 = 23.43%
    DW3+suppanomimi = 21.88%

    So, even with DW3 and suppanomimi, capped gear haste and embrava, you'll be just below the delay cap of 20% of initial delay.

  15. #11795
    Yoshi P
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    Well that sucks, I guess we're stuck wasting slots/points on mortal ray/blazing bound/etc even in high buff situations.

    Thanks for the detailed explanation.

  16. #11796
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Fenrir

    You can hit/exceed cap with Haste Samba, but unless you desperately need set points for utility spells you'd be better off making trades in gear (most likely Twilight -> Windbuffet) rather than reducing your DW trait or single-wielding in this situation.

  17. #11797
    Yoshi P
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    Looks like we got a lot of nuking/requiescat/sanguine blade gear in the update, but nothing else really. Relevant stuff:

    Caudata Belt: Rare- STR+6 VIT+6 INT+6 Attack+15 Weapon Skill Accuracy+10. small upgrade for some physical spells.

    Gwyddion's Cape: Rare- DEF:8 MP+30 INT+6 MND+6 CHR+6 Magic Accuracy+2 "Conserve MP"+3. small upgrade from kaikias cape.

    Taubran Cape: RareEx- DEF:8 INT+7 Magic Accuracy+3 "Magic Attack Bonus"+3. Upgrade from romanas cape, especially if macc/recast matters.

    Morrigan's Coronal +1: RareEx- DEF:33 MP+50 STR+10 INT+10 MND+10 Accuracy+12 Magic Accuracy +12 Set: Enhances "Magic Atk. Bonus" effect. Extremely good for requiescat, and physical spells when accuracy and additional effect accuracy matter.

    Morrigan's Robe +1: RareEx- DEF:55 STR+12 INT+12 MND+12 Accuracy+13 "Magic Attack Bonus"+13 Adds "Refresh" effect Set: Enhances "Magic Atk. Bonus" effect. Significantly better than existing nuking/sanguine blade options. Upgrade from praeco for requiescat.

    Morrigan's Cuffs +1: RareEx- DEF:31 MP+55 Accuracy+12 Attack+12 Magic Accuracy+11 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+11 Set: Enhances "Magic Atk. Bonus" effect. Sidegrade from af3 hands. Maybe useful for the acc/macc.

    Fea's Cuffs: RareEx- DEF:28 STR+7 DEX+7 "Magic Attack Bonus"+6 Blue magic skill +6 Haste+3%. From the alternate morrigan set.

    Fea's Slops: RareEx- DEF:40 HP+40 MP+40 MND+7 Enhancing magic skill +13 Enfeebling magic skill +13 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect. If it's more than 8% fast cast it might be useful...

    Morrigan's Slops +1: RareEx- DEF:44 MP+50 STR+10 INT+10 MND+10 Magic Accuracy+8 Enmity-6 Set: Enhances "Magic Atk. Bonus" effect. Small upgrade from regular morrigans (7 str 8 macc).

    Morrigan's Pigaches +1: RareEx- DEF:26 MP+50 STR+9 INT+9 MND+9 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+9 Enmity-7 Set: Enhances "Magic Atk. Bonus" effect. upgrade from af3 feet outside of burst affinity.

  18. #11798
    CoP Dynamis
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    Hooray for Fea Cuffs, Antica Ring (and MMM in general) can suck it.

  19. #11799
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    No cruor buffs, Barbed Resisted
    With cruor buffs, Barbed landed for like 3-4 casts in a row, but one of the subsequent casts resisted. Tourb never landed.

  20. #11800
    Puppetmaster
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    Shiva

    Wow, wtf SE...

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