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  1. #11801
    Impossiblu
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    Prothescar Centursa
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    So effectively what's happened is, they've added a few pieces of gear that a few jobs may get some use out of, introduced a fuckton of new bugs, and fixed no critical bugs. I shouldn't have expected more tbh

  2. #11802
    CoP Dynamis
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    So who else just spent fuckloads of time meticulously re-ordering their BLU spells?

  3. #11803
    Yoshi P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vriska View Post
    So who else just spent fuckloads of time meticulously re-ordering their BLU spells?
    Auto-sort worked fine for me.

  4. #11804
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Auto-sort worked fine for me.
    Some people order it a certain way. The update undid it

  5. #11805
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Some people order it a certain way. The update undid it
    This. Physicals > Earth > Water > Wind > Fire > Ice > Thunder > Dark > Light > Unbridled Spells, all sub-sorted by level learned.

  6. #11806
    E. Body
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    Isn't that pretty close to the default auto-sort? Element order is such a bizarre thing to be OCD about @_@

  7. #11807
    >The Implying
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    Jeryhn Astracrown
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    Default goes through the elemental cycle (Fire>Ice>Wind>Earth>Thunder>Water>Light>Dark).

    Considering BLU spells don't really follow the damage pattern that BLM spells do, yeah its kinda weird to be OCD about it.

  8. #11808
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn View Post
    Default goes through the elemental cycle (Fire>Ice>Wind>Earth>Thunder>Water>Light>Dark).

    Considering BLU spells don't really follow the damage pattern that BLM spells do, yeah its kinda weird to be OCD about it.
    People do it for different reasons. Easier for them to pick them out for procs perhaps? Or easier depending on lvl sure there are other reasons

  9. #11809
    CoP Dynamis
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    I just like things the way I like them. I don't feel any particular need to change that. There's a lot of elemental orderings within the game. The BLM progression order, the elemental day order, or the effectiveness cycle order. The very first job I played at all was Black Mage, then when I picked up my SJ I took up Red Mage, and since then I kept my spells grouped by function, then element in the order I first learned the primary nuke spells, because that was what became familiar to me first. So Stone 1-3, then Water 1-3, Aero 1-3, etc etc. That order has since carried over to basically everything related to magic and spell lists, so whenever I need to thumb through menus for a particular spell, I know vageuly where in the master list it is, and if I'm looking for, say, the Ice flavour of that line, I know it'll always be the fifth one.

  10. #11810
    Puppetmaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Some people order it a certain way. The update undid it
    ^This. It's nice having spells and JAs right where you want them.

  11. #11811
    Cerberus
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    Ninita Nita
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    posted in random question thread but this probably a better place to ask:

    can you learn Tourbillion from Khimaira 13 (TAU Mission Shield of Diplomacy) fight? I've killed it quite a few times now with it using the ability. And nothing. I realize this is somewhat normal. It's just annoying to keep redoing the fight and i'm starting to question if i can even learn it at all from it.

  12. #11812
    Nidhogg
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    As far as I know, with the exception of Besieged and I think Campaign, you can't learn BLU spells from mobs which normally don't give exp under any circumstances. This applies to Quest/Mission fights only I think.

  13. #11813
    Yoshi P
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    You can learn spells from plenty of things that don't grant exp besides besieged: quest nms, limbus, einherjar, salvage, BCNMs, FoV NMs. You were able to learn spells from campaign mobs (if you didn't have tags) at one point, but it was removed.

    I have no idea for missions, I was at least 0/10 on learning it from khimaira 13 before having shantotto kill it before my friend was able to DC out.

  14. #11814
    Cerberus
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    yea i don't think it's possible to learn it from the mission. I lost count how many times i did it last night. Killing it myself everytime after the first. Finally gave up trying late last night and just went and did FL assault. Ended up going 1/2 on it and that finished out my blu spell list.

  15. #11815
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    There is the new salvage that has a khimeria as a boss if you don't have assault access.

  16. #11816
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    So who here can't wait for one handed damage correction and that BLU/DRK with 15% JA Haste?

  17. #11817
    Impossiblu
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    BLU/DRK isnt that exciting, 1h change is entirely dependent on how shit they make it

  18. #11818
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    What in the stars is that title/color lol

  19. #11819
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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  20. #11820
    Sho
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Learn Tourbillion from the ZNM. It's the easiest way, if not annoying for building the pop. That's how I got it.

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