Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Belgaer]

This is only up to the 75 cap, unfortunately. I couldn't find one that's updated.
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/blu...st-surena.html

Sooo....

Challenge accepted! lolz
I'm overhauling it in the next few days. Features I'll be adding are below. Ideas on additional features are welcome and encouraged. I'll post it on here and see if Myriads would add it to the Blue Mage Hunting Grounds. It's been a while since I've talked to him though, so I dunno how receptive he would be to that idea these days. We'll see. It'd be really great to have a check list to go along with it though.

---Spells Lv.76-99 added.
---Links to all corresponding Blue Mage Hunting Grounds pages provided in hyperlinks for both spells and Mob Families.
---A drop-down list or toggle feature for the Gained category.


I have sent the original creator a message in hopes to get permission for this project. If he/she doesn't respond within an appropriate amount of time, I'll just go ahead without the response and assume I have his/her blessing until told otherwise (because that's what the cool kids do). Credit will be given where due anyway.


EDIT: Taking longer than I expected with school stuff and new content slowing me down. lol I'll get back to you. :/

[Sirbacube]

How does Loki's stack up against AF+1 for heavy strike?

[Vathris]

So what will our new probable spells be??

[Tambor]

I'll throw in some guesses to be proven wrong once we finally get the spells!
Umbril - Paralyzing Triad
Panopt - Crushing Gaze
Twitherym - Slice N Dice
Chapuli - Nature's Mediation
Velkk - Death spin (Whatever the AoE defence down move is)
Mantid - Preying Posture
I didn't pay much attention to Acuex, Matamata, Craklaw moves so no idea what they are like.

[Fwahm]

There's no way BLUs are getting Nature's Meditation, unless it's nerfed into unrecognizability.

That stuff is ridiculous.

[Prothescar]

How does Loki's stack up against AF+1 for heavy strike?

it doesn't come remotely close

[Sirbacube]

it doesn't come remotely close

Meh, figured that was the case. Thanks.

[Ophannus]

Whatever new spells we get hopefully are part of Dual Wield and Triple Attack and cost less points than what we currently have. It's hard to set new spells that come out considering that on /WAR with Amorphic Spikes, Auto-Refresh, DWIII and Triple Attack with Battery Charge I only have a few points left over if at all. Considering that DW/Triple gives us a good portion of our most useful spells and we have so few blue points, I wonder how the new spells will fit in. Additionally we already have a large number of level 99 spells.


Also, most jobs only get 0-1 spells/JA from 97-99, BLU has 3 spells at 97, 3 spells at 98 and 4 spells at 99. I wonder where they would fit in these new BLU spells or if we'd even get any more. I see us getting maybe 1 or 2 new spells and 1-3 new Unbridled Spells. It would be a pipe dream for BLU to get 7+ new spells considering that spell quantity is usually correlated to level(there are only a few instances of being able to learn more than 1 kind of spell at the same level, with the exception of series spells like Ichi/Ni spells and a few others, we already get 4 spells at 99, can't see them adding 7 more for lv 99)

[Prothescar]

remember WotG, when we got like 5 new spells, and they were all at 75?









except they weren't. spells can be between 90~99. 7+/- normal spells with some UL ones would be likely, however there aren't many options for UL in Adoulin aside from naaktuals.

[Damane]

remember WotG, when we got like 5 new spells, and they were all at 75?

except they weren't. spells can be between 90~99. 7+/- normal spells with some UL ones would be likely, however there aren't many options for UL in Adoulin aside from naaktuals.

I dont know the Mantis ones could be UL.

[Ophannus]

There are few gaps in BLU's arsennal that would be nice of them to fill rather than them giving us random sidegrades to existing spells.

1) A UL buff that grants some kind of DD buff, powerful haste or an attack up or a badass enspell or something
2) Something akin to Spirit Taker or rather more like Bloodrake but for MP.
3) Spells that have more 'trait points' so we can set DW3/Triple Attack using less BLU points.

I'd love it if they went back and revamped Blue Points and made all BLU spells cost 1-3 points or gave us about 10-12 more BLU points to work with. We only need slightly more than what we have now I think, give us too much and you'd lose sight of the purpose of BLU, to not have everything at once and to be able to switch spells on the fly to refit your purpose/role. It's just that there are a lot of badass spells that we have that often go to waste because some traits are just too important.

[Damane]

There are few gaps in BLU's arsennal that would be nice of them to fill rather than them giving us random sidegrades to existing spells.

1) A UL buff that grants some kind of DD buff, powerful haste or an attack up or a badass enspell or something
2) Something akin to Spirit Taker or rather more like Bloodrake but for MP.
3) Spells that have more 'trait points' so we can set DW3/Triple Attack using less BLU points.

I'd love it if they went back and revamped Blue Points and made all BLU spells cost 1-3 points or gave us about 10-12 more BLU points to work with. We only need slightly more than what we have now I think, give us too much and you'd lose sight of the purpose of BLU, to not have everything at once and to be able to switch spells on the fly to refit your purpose/role. It's just that there are a lot of badass spells that we have that often go to waste because some traits are just too important.

yeah I think giving 10 more BLU points to set and adding 5 more spells to be able to set 25 BLU spells max wouldnt break BLU.

[Vriska]

I wouldn't mind getting Critical Attack Bonus as a settable trait.

Nature's Meditation could just be a Stoneskin that finally doesn't suck.

All my hopes are on Preying Posture and it not being terrible, unless Velkk or something have a decent Attack Boost spell.

[NynJa]

Nature's Meditation could just be a Stoneskin that finally doesn't suck.

While I'm aware blu spells dont exactly work like the mob counterpart...nature's meditation doesnt give stoneskin.

[Vriska]

While I'm aware blu spells dont exactly work like the mob counterpart...nature's meditation doesnt give stoneskin.

No, I know that. But they're not going to give us something that outclasses Pyric Bulwark just because. And we're way overdue for a decent Stoneskin.

But who am I kidding, we're going to get a vanilla "damage varies with TP" physical spell that is probably terrible.

[tennotsukai87]

There are few gaps in BLU's arsennal that would be nice of them to fill rather than them giving us random sidegrades to existing spells.

1) A UL buff that grants some kind of DD buff, powerful haste or an attack up or a badass enspell or something
2) Something akin to Spirit Taker or rather more like Bloodrake but for MP.
3) Spells that have more 'trait points' so we can set DW3/Triple Attack using less BLU points.

I'd love it if they went back and revamped Blue Points and made all BLU spells cost 1-3 points or gave us about 10-12 more BLU points to work with. We only need slightly more than what we have now I think, give us too much and you'd lose sight of the purpose of BLU, to not have everything at once and to be able to switch spells on the fly to refit your purpose/role. It's just that there are a lot of badass spells that we have that often go to waste because some traits are just too important.

I like these ideas! Also, wouldn't mind seeing our broke spells fixed. I need a reason to go out and get Tourbillion.

[dasva]

I like these ideas! Also, wouldn't mind seeing our broke spells fixed. I need a reason to go out and get Tourbillion.

This so much. I'd be the happiest blu in the world if they just fixed the completely broken spells. Even more so if they fixed blu pdif. Ie make it so you can add to blu att with things other than skill or str like ever other source of physical dmg including lolpet dmg

[Alistaire]

I'd like that 4-hit Velkk move that looks like vorpal blade and dispels 4 buffs + damage.

And Nature's Meditation, at least the mob version, isn't stoneskin. Far as I can tell, it's a short duration Perfect Defense. Drain and other spells get the "resists the spell" message.

I like these ideas! Also, wouldn't mind seeing our broke spells fixed. I need a reason to go out and get Tourbillion.

Tourbillion is great for outside abyssea "cleaving", great aoe physical damage, just forget that is has a broken debuff.

[Prothescar]

Reevaluated Physical Potency merits and came to a final conclusion, they're more potent than originally thought.

Recorded attack values for Pinecone Bomb between no merits, 4, and 5 on highest level Lesser Colibri:

542->584
517->557
522->554 (4 merits)
522->563 (5 merits, but ends up 1 too high)

Using my previous tests as precedent in conjunction with recent breakthroughs in ranged pDIF, this implies a 4/256 attack boost per merit, or a final total of +7.8125% attack for 5/5 merits. Final merit is anomalous at some points, but I'm attributing that to a strange rounding issue as the following formula fits perfectly at every other point.

(attack * (256+Merits*4) + 88)/256


Technically makes physical potency one of the best T1 merits in the game.

[tennotsukai87]

time to remerit those potency merits back up.