Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Prothescar]

It's more than incredibly unlikely to be a nerf; it's 99.99% a buff to have blue magic D sit in line with new weapon Ds. I foresee them just multiplying D by x2~4 at the end of calculation, which would put us in between axes and great katanas. Would also heavily increase the value of skill over WSC. WSC needs a change across the board, it's quickly losing value for basically everything.

That aside, we need attack calculation adjusted or other ways to get blue magic attack like normal melee buffs carrying over. Maybe one of our new spells will double/triple blue attack

[dasva]

Just an overall adjustment that lets att buffs that effect all other physical dmg that uses pdif to effect blu physical spells too

[Vriska]

On one hand; Oh hell yes.

On the other; aw fuck now I might need to update my spell sets.

[Yugl]

I hope they remove D value caps while at this.

[Kyte]

It'd be nice if they addressed BLU nukes as well.

[fantasticdan]

I'd be surprised if they ever update our existing nukes at all. Unlike the formulaic elemental changes, and physical damage adjustments that will probably just be a multiplier, our nukes would need to be fixed on a spell by spell basis.

[dasva]

I'd be surprised if they ever update our existing nukes at all. Unlike the formulaic elemental changes, and physical damage adjustments that will probably just be a multiplier, our nukes would need to be fixed on a spell by spell basis.

Not necessarily. Part of the reason of the outclassing of blu physical spells is because of the huge Ds on weapons... solution to fix physical was to adjust there Ds probably via the skill multiple. They could do the same to magical but instead the portion that takes the place of that ie the lvl+2 part. In fact they should do the same to magical ws since they are suffering from the same problem for the same reason

[Prothescar]

their solution to fixing magical spells will probably be adding new magical spells. probably more fire, water, and dark ones because we obviously don't have enough of those and have plenty of every other element atm. obviously.

[fantasticdan]

Not necessarily. Part of the reason of the outclassing of blu physical spells is because of the huge Ds on weapons... solution to fix physical was to adjust there Ds probably via the skill multiple. They could do the same to magical but instead the portion that takes the place of that ie the lvl+2 part. In fact they should do the same to magical ws since they are suffering from the same problem for the same reason

It's not just damage that's the problem with magical blue magic thou, the mp costs, casting times, and casting ranges are completely out of whack for almost everything pre-wotg. And not all magic spells all need the same level of damage improvement either. IE: spells like ice break, mysterious light, maelstrom, leaf storm, etc. obviously need a lot more adjustment than charged whisker, grudge/dark orb, or regurgitation.

[Kyte]

I think the main reason why I'd like to see an adjustment, rather than just new spells, is that some of the older ones have unique properties that might not get replicated in a new set. I'm mostly referring to Regurgitation; its long range, bind feature, and fixed hate made it more or less perfect at 75 cap. I agree though- its highly unlikely that they'll touch magicals in their fix.

[fantasticdan]

I completely agree, we have tons of cool concept spells that could be adjusted to be awesome, but I don't think it will ever happen. It's not just nukes either, we have tons of buffs/enfeebles/drains that were killed preemptively by ridiculous mp costs/poor durations/casting times and ranges. Imagine if vorcacious trunk had the same casting cost/time as absorb attribute, if plasma charge/demoralizing roar lasted 3-5 minutes instead of ~1, etc.

[doctorugh]

I completely agree, we have tons of cool concept spells that could be adjusted to be awesome, but I don't think it will ever happen. It's not just nukes either, we have tons of buffs/enfeebles/drains that were killed preemptively by ridiculous mp costs/poor durations/casting times and ranges. Imagine if vorcacious trunk had the same casting cost/time as absorb attribute, if plasma charge/demoralizing roar lasted 3-5 minutes instead of ~1, etc.

If they were the case, I might occasionally bother to set spells like Triumphant Roar and Orchish Counterstance. Both are nice....in theory.

[tennotsukai87]

and breath spells are just stupid bad...

[Yamoman]

Question about absolute terror on delve NMs, cast with macc gear and staff? I heard it worked well cast.it twice and had it miss, i was so disappointed, wondered if geared it wrong, capped Blu with 100% spells, not Aby btw

[Tidane]

Question about absolute terror on delve NMs, cast with macc gear and staff? I heard it worked well cast.it twice and had it miss, i was so disappointed, wondered if geared it wrong, capped Blu with 100% spells, not Aby btw

Depends on the NM. I was able to land it on some of them without any gear, but for the higher tiers I used a staff and the MACC gear I had on me (worked on the Orobon without, Moth with, and not the Peiste). No where near a full accuracy set, though.

[dasva]

Yeah absolute terror is fairly accurate. But like still doubt you will land jettatura on anything. Alsowill depend on mob elements/types iirc terror is earth based?

[Vriska]

Jettatura is basically worthless because it wears nearly instantly.

Absolute Terror does well on Orobon, Matamata, Wamoura and Raptor off the top of my head.

Adamantoise, Krab and Peiste seem to resist it outright.

I don't remember about the Eft and Twitherym.

[Yamoman]

Okay thx, now about gear, stick to dtier of 490 or stack on as much macc as possible, or blend of both, thinking macc more important then the blue skill tier, but idk because SE has a strange way of treating blue/bluemagic

[fantasticdan]

Assuming blue skill works the same as elemental/enfeebling/etc., macc and blue skill should be equal point for point, with whatever base stat it uses (probably int?) being half as effective.

[dasva]

And if too worried use burst affinity