Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[fantasticdan]

You can get ~2 DA or crit on each iuitl piece (~0 with nq stone, ~1 with +1, ~2 with +2 I think?) but it seems very rare due to the giant augment pool full of ranged stats and other crap. I'm not about to break the bank trying to get perfect yorcia skirmish gear just to have it be obsoleted next patch (especially when I'm barely playing the game outside of monstrosity lol).

For the setup above, you're losing 4TA not 2 if you're comparing it to a build using iuitl head.

[larrymc]

This may be old news to some, but the combination of item level weapon + full hajondes set seems to make our magical damage quite decent. I noticed in skirmish 2.0 a SCH one shotting mobs, so I decided to try the same with some blu magic.
using charged whiskers I would either 1 shot (if double damage kicked in) or would require 1 additional spell to kill any mob. At one point a wave of 10 mobs came, and 2 spells killed them all (about 40,000 damage in 2 spells).
So afterward I tried out some spells I had not used in quite a while - like Magic hammer. On colibri in Marjami, was doing 450, on easy prey fodder in other areas was doing 600+. Perhaps this is not all that significant as blm can wear the same gear and I'm sure nuke alot stronger.

[doctorugh]

Sticking to this at the moment myself:

Thurandaut chapeau/Asperity necklace/Brutal earring/Suppanomimi
Thaumas coat/Nomkhapa mitts/Rajas ring/Epona's ring
Atheling mantle/Twilight belt/Iuitl tights/Manibozho boots


Not sure what the "good" augments on Iuitl are, haven't seen it mentioned. If the hands can get DA then Nomkhapa can be replaced. The 5% dual wield should be capable of edging out the additional 1QA and 2TA by a small amount with just self buffs.

The Iuitl head has +2 TA on it also, so the comparison is:

4 TA, 1QA, 5STR, 6DEX (+any aug, its ez to get 7 att or acc on NQ)vs 2DA 5 DW and 10 acc

Moving from 30% DW to 35% is a 7.7% increase in total damage if you ignored the fact that it will affect your TP return. And 2 DA (when sitting at roughly 1.5 multiattack per round) is a 1.33% total damage increase.

4TA and 1QA is roughly a 7.3% increase in total damage.

I'm thinking its a bit of a "push" either way, but personally the added PDT, defense and reduction in inventory space works for me.

[doctorugh]

So afterward I tried out some spells I had not used in quite a while - like Magic hammer. On colibri in Marjami, was doing 450, on easy prey fodder in other areas was doing 600+. .

Ive forgotten about that spell.....good point

[dasva]

Almost a shame can't use atinian staff probably be pretty awesome for that. Nice though some of the nuking pieces for it have haste since it's recast is kinda horrible

[Prothescar]

The Iuitl head has +2 TA on it also, so the comparison is:

4 TA, 1QA, 5STR, 6DEX (+any aug, its ez to get 7 att or acc on NQ)vs 2DA 5 DW and 10 acc

Moving from 30% DW to 35% is a 7.7% increase in total damage if you ignored the fact that it will affect your TP return. And 2 DA (when sitting at roughly 1.5 multiattack per round) is a 1.33% total damage increase.

4TA and 1QA is roughly a 7.3% increase in total damage.

I'm thinking its a bit of a "push" either way, but personally the added PDT, defense and reduction in inventory space works for me.

I'll probably end up switching over then, means I don't have to carry as much gear

[Vathris]

Matsui: Blue Magic Adjustments

Hello, it's Matsui.

I wanted to speak a bit about adjustments to blue magic.

In the July version update, we updated physical blue magic so that D value of the spells was dependent on the combat skill+ present on the main weapon. However, the development team believes that we need to further adjust the power of blue magic spells. Based on this, in the fall version update, we will make additional adjustments to physical blue magic so that the attack value rises with the combat skill+ value present on the main weapon.

Additionally, we also plan to add new blue magic in the fall version update. We will talk some more about the new blue magic spells once we are at a stage where we can give you all of the details.

From the Dev tracker findings !!

[dasva]

Oh snap gotta actually make spell sets again lol. Wonder if it will be enough to make them worth using outside of CA/Efflux... on soa content

[kenshyn]

I heard it was happening seeing the post just has me pretty ecstatic now make combat skill also = macc and I will do back flips...

[dasva]

Maybe more backflips are in order after a few facepalms

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...d-Crescent-Etc.

[doctorugh]

Nice, this gives us roughly a 40% boost (assume MegaDelve sword). Ought to be worth using again.

[Ophannus]

So that could potentially bring out Blue Attack to somewhere in the 900ish range then? Assuming 1 Skill= 1Attack(or maybe it'll be 1 Skill= 0.9 ATK). The only thing that could be problematic is that it would make BLU extremely powerful in low level fights, not that anyone levels 1-99 normally anymore anyway but still. Personally I think it should be a bit higher given that unlike melee's Attack, we can't increase our Blue Attack with songs/berserk etc; but I guess I have no right to complain.

[Prothescar]

One skill is never .9 attack, it will more than likely be 1if they go that route. Wouldn't mind an extra multiplier tacked onto it for good measure since to reach any reasonable attack score for most Adoulin things you'd need over 300STR on top of 5/5 Physical Potency merits (to break 1k, you need around 500STR).

Blue Magic skill + MH weapon skill * 1.5 + 8 + STR/2 would work just fine

[kenshyn]

Crusher of dreams lol....

[Kyte]

Granting blue magic the same attack increase from STR that every other physical damage source now benefits from couldn't hurt either.

[kenshyn]

Well looks like MACC should be addressed as well:

Hello!

In addition to questions about blue magic spell damage and new blue magic spells, I know there have been a lot of questions about blue magic spell accuracy and magic accuracy in general, so I wanted to let you all know that the development team is aiming to implement adjustments in the fall version update to address this.

The adjustments will make it so magic accuracy increases when a weapon equipped in your main hand has an item level as well as combat skill+ on it. This is not only for blue magic, but for all magic spells.

We’ll let you know more details once more aspects of this become finalized!

[dasva]

Oh yeah that was first in the dev notes awhile ago... though before they were talking about it mostly for the hybrid jobs not all jobs getting macc

[kenshyn]

Yep yep I am just glad they still have it on the radar and it didn't become another broken promise in a long line of broken promises like regain for Geo and those 2 vapor wear avatars they talked about. How can programming new avatars ever take this long is beyond me lol...

Still no matter what happens we will be better than before and can't wait for new spells but not trying to learn then that horror just never goes away on this job lol....

[dasva]

I'm still waiting for the spider move from the blu section of the trailer in aht urghan <.<. But at least my monstrosity spider has it!

[Hitou]

Goobbue don't randomly eat mandragora and Fafnir doesn't fly into dragon's aery. I wouldn't put too much stock into promotional videos. There was something in the WoTG trailer that didn't make it into the game either but now I can't remember what it was. I know you were mostly joking but w/e!