Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Teryu]

So what do you guys think of the new spells so far?

[Kyte]

I'm whelmed.

[Prothescar]

Most of them aren't very special. They're minor upgrades we had to things before, the only really interesting ones being foul water and glutinous dart.

[dasva]

Maybe they just forgot to add wsc and they are supposed to be better

[Prothescar]

Abyssea spells didn't have WSC at first either, it was added later

[Prothescar]

Paralyzing Triad is Gravitation, makes Darkness with CDC

[tennotsukai87]

At least, they said there is a known issue with some blu spells' accuracy.

[Draylo]

Embalming Earth is nice, 58 mp for a decent slow and decent dmg.

Glutinous Dart is a decent one too lol, 20 range 16 mp and recast/casting time is very low. 500~800ish dmg w/ spell dmg gear.

[Aramaic]

Which mob uses glutinous dart cause I am drawing a blank.

[Roundelk]

Velkk

[Prothescar]

Nature's Meditation
Duration: 60s Casting Time: 1s Recast Time: 60s MP Cost: 38 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stat Bonus: DEX+6 Trait: Accuracy Bonus
Notes: Attack+20% (52/256), Requires no other spells to give trait


Temptestuous Upheaval
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 3.796875 (972/256) WSC: None Casting Time: .5s Recast Time: 12s MP Cost: 133 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stat Bonus: AGI+6 Trait: Evasion Bonus
Notes:


Rending Deluge
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 3.5 WSC: None Casting Time: 3s Recast Time: 35s MP Cost: 118 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stat Bonus: VIT+6 Trait: Magic Defense Bonus
Notes: Additional Effect: Dispel, Requires no other spells to give trait, Dispels one beneficial effect


Embalming Earth
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 3 WSC: None Duration: 180s Casting Time: 4.5s Recast Time: 24s MP Cost: 57 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stat Bonus: STR+6 Trait: Attack Bonus
Notes: Additional Effect: Slow, Requires no other spells to give trait, +25% Slow


Foul Waters
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 2.25 WSC: None Duration: 180s Casting Time: 3.5s Recast Time: 60s MP Cost: 76 Blue Point Cost: 4 Stat Bonus: HP+10 VIT+4 Trait: Resist Silence
Notes: Additional Effect: Drown, Requires no other spells to give trait, 31/tic DoT + -65STR


Retinal Glare
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 2.75 WSC: None Duration: 15s Casting Time: 1s Recast Time: 45s MP Cost: 26 Blue Point Cost: 5 Stat Bonus: MP+15 INT+3 Trait: Conserve MP
Notes: Additional Effect: Flash, Requires no other spells to give trait


Paralyzing Triad
fTP: 1.125 WSC: X Duration: 60s Casting Time: .5s Recast Time: 15s MP Cost: 33 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stats: HP-10 STR+4 DEX+4 Trait: Skillchain Bonus
Notes: Additional Effect: Paralysis, Requires no other spells to give trait


Glutionous Dart
fTP: 1.0@100 2.0@150 X@300 WSC: 50%STR 50%VIT Casting Time: .5s Recast Time: 6 MP Cost: 16 Blue Point Cost: 2 Stat Bonus: HP+15 STR+3 DEX+3 INT-3 Trait: Max HP Boost
Notes: Long range


need to finish Triad WSC and paralysis strength later, mostly complete though. Interesting note: Paralyzing Triad is listed as belonging to the Elemental family, so there's that officially confirmed.

[Draylo]

Drone Whirlwind test in Brenner, Seems to dispel all buffs (he had 10 buffs on):

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Text ss:
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Side Note: Seems Gluttinous Dart is an awesome pvp spell lol, can just kite them and spam it.

Carcharian Verve:
65 mp cost. 17~18% atk, Went from 1,154 atk to 1,354. Duration: about 60s

[Vriska]

Verve couldn't just be straight +200 could it? It's also totally outclassed by Meditation, nice!

[Draylo]

Nah went from 96 atk > 115 atk naked.

[tennotsukai87]

Can't believe how good whirlwind is as a dispel.

So is it worth using Nature's Med in a high buff situation now that we get 20%? I really don't understand what SE is thinking sometimes with these short durations. They know we don't like short durations....

[Vriska]

SE doesn't give a damn what players like or dislike. Look at the new RDM 2h. It is literally Ele Seal on a 6x longer timer.

[Prothescar]

and it works on less spells

Paralyzing Triad has a 15% proc rate on Paralysis or so. 77/498 procs, parsed by hand to avoid anomalies. Could use a bigger sample size, but it's so close that I doubt it's anything different. Its fTP and WSC are giving me problems, 1.125 (per hit ofc) fits very well for fTP, but I can't get any WSC to make complete sense.

Spoiler: show

Over around 100 samples for both SA only and CA+SA, I've got:

106STR, 102DEX, 81VIT, 84AGI, 83INT, 77MND, 77CHR, 440skill
SA High = 621, SA+CA High = 802

621/3.15 = 198
802/3.15 = 255
255-198 = 57
WSC*fTP = 57

198-57 = 141
(D+fSTR)*fTP = 141
(99+26)*fTP = 141
141/125 = 1.128
fTP = 1.128
fTP ~= 1.125

[Ophannus]

I figured verve would be on par or weaker. It gives like 3 buffs so they cant all be strong and the brith side is you can use lit without wasting 6 points on meditation. I guess the point of UL is to circumvent the 20 blu spell equip limit. They're giving us utility spells on demand like stun terror atk up dispel, all we need is an aoe cure

[tennotsukai87]

I figured verve would be on par or weaker. It gives like 3 buffs so they cant all be strong and the brith side is you can use lit without wasting 6 points on meditation. I guess the point of UL is to circumvent the 20 blu spell equip limit. They're giving us utility spells on demand like stun terror atk up dispel, all we need is an aoe cure

Very true. Guess I had too strong of expectations, though most UL spells are rather decent, imo. Maybe we will get another update with blu spells in the near future. It's very possible with monthly updates...so maybe another couple of years.

[Kyte]

I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if we get more spells in 6 months, but almost certainly no sooner than that.