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  1. #12641
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    You can burst subduction, it just doesn't get any damage boost from BA or AL because it doesn't have any secondary damage mods. All the other post SoA nukes are the same afaik.

    edit: slow tabbed response

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    Didn't work with Subduction as far as I can tell because you need BA up to actually burst them; AL alone doesn't cut it. Because of that it didn't count it and I didn't realize 'til the second cast that I forgot to and it was too late to burst it. xD It looks like it requires multiple Magic Bursts to make a Skillchain.

  3. #12643
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensagaku View Post
    Didn't work with Subduction as far as I can tell because you need BA up to actually burst them; AL alone doesn't cut it. Because of that it didn't count it and I didn't realize 'til the second cast that I forgot to and it was too late to burst it. xD It looks like it requires multiple Magic Bursts to make a Skillchain.
    AL allows all blu spells to skillchain or mb when up... that's probably what's messing up the other spells since they already can mb it gives them the ability to skillchain instead. Wonder if it will allow ws to mb lol

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    Weird. Maybe that's what it is. Either way, amused when I was doing Tchakka, went to do a light spam... Thunder created Darkness skilchains, hehe.

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    Everything creates darkness under AL? I guess drk is no longer the most emo job

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    You try knowing your fate is to become a tentacle-faced freak if your control slips and not become emo. Does horrible things to one's romantic life, unless you find someone into that. >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kensagaku View Post
    You try knowing your fate is to become a tentacle-faced freak if your control slips and not become emo. Does horrible things to one's romantic life, unless you find someone into that. >.>
    Well we do live in a world with Cat bitches and elves so...

  8. #12648
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    Looking to max out my blue armor sets, does anyone have a link to current best TP, Fast cast, WS (expiation) cure sets?

  9. #12649
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldslost View Post
    Looking to max out my blue armor sets, does anyone have a link to current best TP, Fast cast, WS (expiation) cure sets?
    Last I checked ffxiah.com's stickied thread under BLU is pretty up to date. If anything, it can point you in the right direction for sure.

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    Okay, so toying with the new Blue Magic changes, to see what it did. Did all my testing on Blanched Mandragoras (got to them early before the rest of the server started logging on!). On tests where food is noted, was using RCB (only attack food I had on me at the time.) Yes, I know they said that % based boosts are attributed to mainhand only, but I listed main/aux just because.

    Primary / Aux Attack: 938 / 880
    Heavy Strike: 2101, 1810, 1999, 2030

    Primary / Aux Attack (Food): 1093 / 1033
    Heavy Strike: 2129, 2068, 2064, 2084, 2045


    Prim / Aux Attack: 828 / 783
    Sudden Lunge: 383, 467, 362, 327, 450, 477, 454, 371, 516, 380, 401, 509

    Primary / Aux Attack (Food): 1004 / 956
    Sudden Lunge: 480, 613, 600, 440, 462, 493, 497, 554, 520, 590, 474, 608


    Primary / Aux Attack: 914 / 855
    Delta Thrust: 1842, 923, 1997, 1225, 1780, 1982, 1417, 1917, 1698
    Quad. Cont: 3982, 3641, 4141, 3463, 4131, 3797, 4075, 4074, 3776

    Primary / Aux Attack (Food): 1069 / 1008
    Delta Thrust: 2026, 2064, 2263, 2234, 2440
    Quad. Cont: 4123, 4100, 3082, 3904, 3821, 2694, 4081, 3686, 3971


    Primary / Aux Attack:
    Barbed Crescent: 396, 774, 1003, 737, 668, 989

    Primary / Aux Attack (Food): 983 / 936
    Barbed Crescent: 814, 987, 1003, 1070, 1051, 965


    So there's a definite increase in damage, but it seems sorta wonky, like it's not a huge amount or I dunno what. It may be the spells I used for testing; it was what I had equipped at the time. Also abnormally low amounts on the multi-hit ones (DT and QC) were just missed hits.

    Any thoughts on this?

  11. #12651
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    falls within expected parameters, likely coming close to capping attack on those without the extra attack, try on something higher. the boost in pDIF is nice for mid to high range things and falls off in effectiveness on lower level things; wouldn't expect a massive jump in average damage for the most part unless you're fighting something higher tier where physical magic's lack of attack was much more noticeable

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    Ah, fair enough. Doing some mission blitzing, then I'll go and try on some mobs in Ra'kaznar or Kamihr. Didn't think about capping on Mandies.

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    Double post, but definitely a much more noticeable difference on higher mobs, even with just a few small samples. Went BLU/WAR and was testing on Cyanotic Raptors (Level 112).

    Sudden Lunge (832 Atk): 252, 176, 250, 241, 203
    w/ Berserk (1040 Atk): 280, 238, 227, 272, 280

    Quad Cont (919 Atk): 2248, 2052, 2262, 1948
    w/ Berserk (1148 Atk): 2797, 2657, 2850, 3011

    So yeah... I'm looking forward to seeing if this changes things at all.

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    Use Nat. Medation and beserk and warcry lol

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    Sharur File:21105 icon.png 99 119 Club DMG:184 Delay:352 INT+6 MND+6 Accuracy+27 Magic Damage+130 Club skill +228 Parrying skill +228 Magic Accuracy skill +188 WHM, RDM, BLU, GEO

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    Hint, use CA + EF with attack buffs with Thrashing Assault:

    http://cdn.ffxipro.com/images/ss/ful...1cb1d26137.jpg

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    Does our MaB trait go all the way up to t5 (+36), or does it cap lower than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Does our MaB trait go all the way up to t5 (+36), or does it cap lower than that?
    My impression is that it goes as high as you set it, since I set as much as I can when doing Puppet in Peril... but I will be sad if it doesn't

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    Can spells be learned in Walk of Echoes? I've run Walks 4-6 like twice each trying to learn spells for Unbridled and haven't gotten a single one.

  20. #12660
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    Unless they've changed it and I don't remember, no.

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