Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Not Kuno]

I've done about 10 besieged, havn't learned a single spell yet. Static getting angry that I'm so ahead now so Im gonna stop trying.

[Lockecole]

I've done about 10 besieged, havn't learned a single spell yet. Static getting angry that I'm so ahead now so Im gonna stop trying.

Besieged is debatably the worst place to learn a spell. The odds of your own PT/Alliance killing a mob, ontop of the chance of you easily dying on each mob, just seems to make it not worth the time at all. It's something nice on the side while getting 700EXP, but definately not a viable means of learning spells.

[Dezzimal]

I've done about 10 besieged, havn't learned a single spell yet. Static getting angry that I'm so ahead now so Im gonna stop trying.

Besieged is debatably the worst place to learn a spell. The odds of your own PT/Alliance killing a mob, ontop of the chance of you easily dying on each mob, just seems to make it not worth the time at all. It's something nice on the side while getting 700EXP, but definately not a viable means of learning spells.

Actually the whole death thing is mistranslated by SE as well. What they meant to say is if you're dead, you won't learn a spell. If you're alive, no matter if the mob has killed you 20 times over, when it dies you get a chance at learning.

[Lockecole]

I've done about 10 besieged, havn't learned a single spell yet. Static getting angry that I'm so ahead now so Im gonna stop trying.

Besieged is debatably the worst place to learn a spell. The odds of your own PT/Alliance killing a mob, ontop of the chance of you easily dying on each mob, just seems to make it not worth the time at all. It's something nice on the side while getting 700EXP, but definately not a viable means of learning spells.

Actually the whole death thing is mistranslated by SE as well. What they meant to say is if you're dead, you won't learn a spell. If you're alive, no matter if the mob has killed you 20 times over, when it dies you get a chance at learning.

Yeah I didnt mean that if you die you dont have a chance to learn, I know for a fact I've died and reraised and killed the same mob and learned the spell. I was mainly referring to just how much downtime you have as a low lvl BLU in Besieged if you're constantly dying and having to wait around...all the while risking that mob dying while you're currently dead and not learning it.

[NynJa]

Didnt people say (read: claim) they learned spells in besieged while solo ?



Only reason I think people might be having problem is because of the your level - mob lvl difference. When I was doing poison breath, me and a friend went to eldieme and someone tanked the Tomb Wolves for us, or whichever the lower lvl ones are. Went something like 0/7 there. My friend went to do stuff in sky, I dragged my ass to Gusgen. First Bandersnatch I lucked out and it did Poison Breath, and I went 1/1.

[Moochi]

I don't think mob lvl VS your lvl matters. Me and two of my friends got Refueling off the clusters in Mount Zhayolm at 50 and it didn't take long at all. Took 5ish tries for 2 of us and 2-3 for my other friend. Those are DC-EM at 75.

[Russta]

I don't think mob lvl VS your lvl matters. Me and two of my friends got Refueling off the clusters in Mount Zhayolm at 50 and it didn't take long at all. Took 5ish tries for 2 of us and 2-3 for my other friend. Those are DC-EM at 75.

That's exactly how we learned it for my friend too.

Learning Blue Magic really does seem completely random but I (and everyone else it seems) can't shift this niggling feeling that there's something more to it.

[Sinto]

At 63 blu i learned warm-up out of nowhere from besieged, was fighting a mamool drg (Only had 4 people in party, and all in same mob), Then suddenly i get the message:


Sint learns Warm-Up!

(Mamool drg was at like 60% of hp)

So Dont need to be atacking the mobs to learn spell >_<

But at 66 i tried to learn enervation/diamondhide and no luck (Did 2 trolls besieged)

So besieged really sucks to learn spells >_<

[Sinto]

I don't think mob lvl VS your lvl matters. Me and two of my friends got Refueling off the clusters in Mount Zhayolm at 50 and it didn't take long at all. Took 5ish tries for 2 of us and 2-3 for my other friend. Those are DC-EM at 75.

I used to think lvled matter too because I went thro like 20 trents in misaroux coast (or is lufaise? i forgot) trying to learn pinecone bomb (use it every time) and didnt got (Yes i had friend helping ) after went to hunt down the one in jugner, and at 2nd trent there i got it.

Friend insisted on going back to misaroux for hers so we went and she got first try there ;;


And i did the same you did for refueling

[Gulkeeva]

I dunno I've been having trouble learning the later lvl spells dual boxing a nin tank using kraken to slap stuff.

and took awhile even if I'm the same lvl as the spell.

and randomly I see a naked mithra in nynja's pic!

[Serif]

Can anyone tell me a website with all the Stat Modifiers for BLU spells?

Or mainly

Frenetic Rip
Disseverment
Diamondhide

Thanks in advance.

[Razz]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Part/6371/blue.html is the site I use but you need to be able to read JP.

Anyway,

frenetic rip: STR_20 DEX_20
Disseverment: STR_20 DEX_20
Diamond Hide is unknown, I dont think it even has a stat modifier :/

[Bluetonberry]

I've been working so hard figure those out and the JP beat me to it ; ; At least I figured out most of the spells and damage-types of the physical spells. (Some spells are actually considered ranged attacks even) Guess I can always play with cactaurs + diamondhide

[Razz]

I've been working so hard figure those out and the JP beat me to it ; ; At least I figured out most of the spells and damage-types of the physical spells. (Some spells are actually considered ranged attacks even) Guess I can always play with cactaurs + diamondhide

I might've missed the posts listing the damage types of the physical attacks, so can you or anyone else list them please? thanks ><

Been doing alot of Sea that involves Jailer of Temperance, which changes forms that only take a single type of damage and while I wreck it with Disseverment and Canonball I'd like to know what else would be good for it's other forms.

Also, is it just me or does body slam suck? I'm not sure why I went through all the trouble in getting it :/

[Bluetonberry]

Okay, I'm open to corrections on these; If someone is extreamly bored feel free to double check on Temprance because a few of these are just educated guesses based on my damage tests. (If you're curious, I used Arhiman, Bones, Slimes, and bats for most of these tests.)

-Slashing
Foot Kick
Power Attack
Sprout Smack
Grand Slam
Smite of Rage
Uppercut
Terror Touch
Mandibular Bite
Sickle Slash
Death Scissors
Dimensional Death
Hydro Shot
Tail Slap
Vertical Cleave

-Peircing
Wild Oats
Battle Dance
Claw Cyclone
Screwdriver
Spinal Cleave
Dissevernment

-Blunt
Head Butt
Bludgeon
Jet Stream
Frenetic Rip
Frypan
Hysteric Barrage
Cannonball
Ram Charge

-Ranged, Peircing
Queasyshroom
Feather Storm
Pinecone Bomb
(Maybe Wild Oats; Queasyshroom didn't go through Airy sheild, so I have to confirm the rest)

Unknown
Body Slam; only one I need ; ; (I know it sucks but I gotta have em all!)

Corrections/Confimations welcome!

[further]

Stuff

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f25/djfurther/lol.jpg

Completely unrelated to the topic. Just found this in my photobucket today and it brought back fond memories. Carry on <3

[Xerlic]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Part/6371/blue.html is the site I use but you need to be able to read JP.

Anyway,

frenetic rip: STR_20 DEX_20
Disseverment: STR_20 DEX_20
Diamond Hide is unknown, I dont think it even has a stat modifier :/

Is this only with CA or just in general? Basically, the thing about Physical BLU spells be reliant only on STR is not entirely true then? Sorry if this has already been covered.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Part/6371/blue.html is the site I use but you need to be able to read JP.

Anyway,

frenetic rip: STR_20 DEX_20
Disseverment: STR_20 DEX_20
Diamond Hide is unknown, I dont think it even has a stat modifier :/

From that site (I dont read JP but can just look up by level) it seems vertical cleave and cannonball have rediculously high potential damage for HNMs

The high level breaths too (once we get blue magic skill gear.)

[Razz]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Part/6371/blue.html is the site I use but you need to be able to read JP.

Anyway,

frenetic rip: STR_20 DEX_20
Disseverment: STR_20 DEX_20
Diamond Hide is unknown, I dont think it even has a stat modifier :/

From that site (I dont read JP but can just look up by level) it seems vertical cleave and cannonball have rediculously high potential damage for HNMs

The high level breaths too (once we get blue magic skill gear.)

Well without TP my cannonballs do 620 with sneak attack on tiamat, I can't imagine it with TP D: And yeah, vertical cleave looks to be strong.

Heat breath is the highest damaging breath move we have, 50% of your HP so if you have 2k HP like I do, you'll do 1000dmg. Haven't tried it on a high level mob yet, I'd imagine resists out of the ass until AFs and job specific merits.

Xerlic - those are just in general. The damage is raised at 100tp, 150tp, 300tp and Azure Lore status.

Further - lol

[Gulkeeva]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Part/6371/blue.html is the site I use but you need to be able to read JP.

Anyway,

frenetic rip: STR_20 DEX_20
Disseverment: STR_20 DEX_20
Diamond Hide is unknown, I dont think it even has a stat modifier :/

Is this only with CA or just in general? Basically, the thing about Physical BLU spells be reliant only on STR is not entirely true then? Sorry if this has already been covered.

Go go mithra with mass STR gear?

I got lower 70's dex and near 100 STR in gear/spell combo's... can't wait for Lv 72

My frenetic rip seems to be getting slightly weaker though on higher stuff, but dimentional death and death scissors still carrying a nice high damage on everything at 50%TP+
... well death scissors seems to be constant on everything while dimentional death does less on some things then others randomly.