Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Celeras]

I noticed that V.cleave has the 3.0 modifier at 100 tp, and the same at 300 tp. Since this site confirms what I found, anybody else find it weird that the description says "Damage varies with tp"?

I really hope breaths can become viable. I never used V.cleave on anything hard, but the multi-hits are garbage for the most part. I imagine our viablility will end up being SCs, gimp heals, and Cannonball/possibly breaths.

[NynJa]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Part/6371/blue.html is the site I use but you need to be able to read JP.

Anyway,

frenetic rip: STR_20 DEX_20
Disseverment: STR_20 DEX_20
Diamond Hide is unknown, I dont think it even has a stat modifier :/

Sooooooooooooooooooooo anyone wanna try translating that ?? my JP sucks

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Part/6371/blue.html is the site I use but you need to be able to read JP.

Anyway,

frenetic rip: STR_20 DEX_20
Disseverment: STR_20 DEX_20
Diamond Hide is unknown, I dont think it even has a stat modifier :/

Sooooooooooooooooooooo anyone wanna try translating that ?? my JP sucks

I dont know ANY JP. You can figure it out as far as what you need to know assuming you've seen the english WS chart before.

[Serif]

With Cannonball, I have heard of people pulling off 600 SAs on Timmy.

Does anyone know what DEF you need to do this?

[Bluetonberry]

Heat Breath and Hectacomb wave do really well on faith at least! F Rip actually does well on Fafnir, it's just a shame that using it more than once or twice well increase wings spam... But it seems all accurate, since I found that their data matched mine on the few spells I've tested.

For the stats I just filled them in on my excel sheet; it was easy to tell which spells were which by the levels >.> Someone needs to figure out the enfeebling spell's modifiers though.

[NynJa]

I'm pretty certain Uppercut is Blunt, and not slashing.

[Gulkeeva]

/copy paste mass
Taken from that JP site translated into a little nice mess

Lv -> Spell Name -> Modifier 0% TP-> 150%TP -> 300% -> -> 2hour how many hits -> Modifiers

1　Foot Kick　　　 　1.00 - - - 1　　STR_10 DEX_10
4　Power Attack　 1.125 - - - 1　　STR_10 VIT_10　
4　Sprout Smack　 1.50 - - - 1　　VIT_30　
4　Wild oats　　　　　 　　1.84* - - - 1　　AGI_30
12　Battle Dance　　 　　2.00　 - - - 1　　STR_30
12　Headbutt　　　 　1.75　 2.125 2.25 2.375 1　　STR_20 INT_20
16　Helldive　　　 　　1.25　 1.625 2.00 2.125 1　　AGI_30
18　Bludgeon　　　 　　1.00　 - - - 3　　CHR_30
20　Claw Cyclone　 　1.4375 -　 　 - 　 - 2　　DEX_30
26　Screwdriver　　 　1.375 　- - - 1　　STR_20 MND_20
30　Grand Slam　　　 1.00　 -　 　 - 　 - 1　　VIT_30
34　Smite of Rage　　　　　1.50　 2.25　 2.50 2.53125 1　　STR_20 DEX_20
38　Uppercut　　　 1.50　 -　 　 - 　 - 1　　STR_35
38　Jet Stream　 1.125 - - - 3　　AGI_30
40　Terror Touch　　　 　1.50　 - - - 1　　DEX_20 INT_20
44　Mandibular Biteト　　　2.00　 -　 　 - 　 - 1 STR_20 INT_20　
48　Sickle Slash　 1.50　　-　　　 - - 1 DEX_50　
60　Dimentional Death　　2.25　　-　　　 - - 1　　STR_50　　
60　Death Scissors　　　　1.50　　2.75　　3.25 　 3.30* 1　　STR_60　　　
62　Body Slam　　　 　1.50　　-　　　 -　　　 - 1 VIT_40
63　Spinal Cleave 　3.00 - - - 1 STR_30
63　Frenetic Rip　　　　　1.36* 2.08* 2.36* - 3 STR_20 DEX_20
63　Frypan　　　　 　1.78* - - - 1 STR_20 MND_20
63　Hydro Shot　 　1.25　　-　　　 -　　　 - 1　　AGI_30
69　Tail Slap　　 　1.625　 -　　　 -　　　 - 1　　STR_20 VIT_50
69　Hysteric Barrage　　1.25　　?　　　 ?　　　 - 5　　DEX_30
70　Cannonball　　 　1.75　 ? ? - 1 STR_50 VIT_50
72　Disseverment　 　1.50　 - - - 5 STR_20 DEX_20　
73　Ram Charge　　　 　1.00　　? ? - 1 STR_30 MND_50　
75　Vertical Cleave 　3.00　 - - - 1　　STR_50

[Excalin Garisk]

I really need to fuck around with Excel and put this mess into it when I know the formulas to apply.

[Gulkeeva]

well I'm looking into the "CTR, D, TP, 時間, collumn currently, seems to be aditional mod/damage modifier"
I'll add that later w

Imma need make alot adjustments to this list actually I figured it out, gonna remake it XD

[NynJa]

one of the columns shows what type of damage it was, but it goes into extreme detail lol.


I can check again, but heres what I saw in my babelfish translation as far as dmg types go:
vibrating
explosion
cutting
shocking
one that started with an M

[Gulkeeva]

Ok Redid that entire thing (except the trailing stuff under description which only a fluent JP could read) and the "Damage type" sections off. Everything else is on it and should be correct
You can view the HNMLS page of it here

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/BlumageNFO.htm

The stuff under "StatMod and or... " didn't really say what kinda mod or what it was... so i jsut put down what it translated out to be.

[Evedgebah]

Looks great!

[Vobent]

I really don't think Bludgeon is CHR based, but I guess it is.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I really don't think Bludgeon is CHR based, but I guess it is.

I lol'd really hard at this post

[Vobent]

Fine, lemme re-phrase..

I didn't think it was, but I guess it is.

[Gulkeeva]

Ok reupdated it with the info on modifiers for magic spells, breaht spell modifiers, drain spell modifiers etc

if anyone wants to add some the info thats really hard to figure out, just Pm me

Fixed the page to soorta as close as possible explain how to do a estimated breath damage formula. Since the formula includes apparently a Level blue skill mod, a HP % mod, and few other things that jsut dosne't translate out well its messy to figure it out. I did frost breath which seems to be close to this formular so I left it at that at 2am.

[Vobent]

Yay, good job! ^^

[Russta]

I can check again, but heres what I saw in my babelfish translation as far as dmg types go:
vibrating
explosion
cutting
shocking
one that started with an M

They're the renkei positions.

[NynJa]

Ah....that makes sense.

[Celeras]

Looked over the part about breaths.

Lv　　　　　　　　　　 属性　HP割合　Ｄ値
22　ポイズンブレス　　　水　　1/10　　青Lv÷1.25　（約0.80倍）
46　磁鉄粉　　　　　　　土　　1/6 　　青Lv÷1.875 （約0.53倍）
54　ヘカトンウェーブ　　風　　1/4　　 青Lv÷1.5　 （約0.66倍）
54　Ｒ．ブレス　　　　　光　　1/5　　 青Lv÷0.75　（約1.33倍）
58　Ｆ．ヒッププレス　　風　　1/3　　 なし
61　臭い息　　　　　　　土　　1/8　　 青Lv÷3     （約0.33倍）っていうまでもない
66　フロストブレス　　　氷　　1/3　　 青Lv÷0.625 （約1.60倍）
71　火炎の息　　　　　　火　　1/2 　　なし

For the D Values, what are they talking about? Im unable to tell if its a damage cap, additional damage modifier(off the HP base) or what? I dont think it can be a cap since they're saying Blue Lv / X. Is that supposed to be BlueMagic Level?