Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Gulkeeva]

I posted a "soorta" guess on what comes out to be close to what my damage is with frost breath (only one tested formula on)

I left out that （約0.80倍） stuff becuase its definantly more confusing, its part of a formula that relates with blue skill lvl also etc etc /mess

You can see the "approximate formula" I came up with on

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/BlumageNFO.htm

if anyone figures what they mean by "Approximation .80" and how to factor that in, and with the blue skill approximation thing with the breath damage (and other stuff listed) feel free to post it on how its done and I'll fix my little chart I made

oh and for the list up top about physical spells the "Attack?" jsut means that +ATK may be a factor in to how much these spells do damage wise.

[Razz]

Did you even bother to give credit to the original authors?

[Priran]

/copy paste mass
Taken from that JP site translated into a little nice mess

about as much as you did

[Gulkeeva]

Did you even bother to give credit to the original authors?

If you can find the author sure, PM me the persons name if you find it

all can find is "Studio Gobli" rest translates to a japanese I can't possibly read.

/copy paste mass
Taken from that JP site translated into a little nice mess

about as much as you did

People that read english so far have found it more useful then seeing the page in 100% japanese (mainly for the attack spells) sicne hardly anyone uses the magic spells, and the breath spells calculations close as its getting unless you can speak fluent japanese and would like to explain the "Approximation" value calculations in.

[Priran]

/copy paste mass
Taken from that JP site translated into a little nice mess

about as much as you did

People that read english so far have found it more useful then seeing the page in 100% japanese (mainly for the attack spells) sicne hardly anyone uses the magic spells, and the breath spells calculations close as its getting unless you can speak fluent japanese and would like to explain the "Approximation" value calculations in.

that was a reply to

Did you even bother to give credit to the original authors?

whee

[Gulkeeva]

oh my bad anyway I did the translation out for people to easier see what the site says, never claimed the info as mine. I put a link to it now to the JP portion incase anyone wants to look at the mass and try to figure out the "extra stuff" now.

[Excalin Garisk]

From my understanding Head butt and maybe Blu Magic as a sub in general was nerfed, but with enough ACC gear could /blu be effective at delivering Head butt to mobs?

[Priran]

From my understanding Head butt and maybe Blu Magic as a sub in general was nerfed, but with enough ACC gear could /blu be effective at delivering Head butt to mobs?

Stun would probably never proc. I've had problems stunning even EXP mobs since that patch.

[Koul]

Has anyone 75ish tried BLU/BLM on HNMs or what-have-you? or even with pimp gear and junk magical spells still suckass... sorry if this is dead topic brought back to life

[Gulkeeva]

Has anyone 75ish tried BLU/BLM on HNMs or what-have-you? or even with pimp gear and junk magical spells still suckass... sorry if this is dead topic brought back to life

blu has a much greater 'spell combo" for magic attack bonus that a sj blm can't match (and dosne't stack)

[Raineer]

I've launched many,many head butts as RDM/BLU just when fucking around on EP (spiderslol) and up , the stun has proc'd once.

[Koul]

Has anyone 75ish tried BLU/BLM on HNMs or what-have-you? or even with pimp gear and junk magical spells still suckass... sorry if this is dead topic brought back to life

blu has a much greater 'spell combo" for magic attack bonus that a sj blm can't match (and dosne't stack)

I was thinkin more along the lines of the INT bonus from /BLM but... mabye it would be best to equip all those MAB combo spells then go /MNK for the HP bonus so your breath attacks do more?!

::Sidenote::
The stun effect on my headbutts aren't landin as much as they used to as well... party last night I would use headbutt about 10 times a mob and I might've gone mebbe 6/10 stuns landin. Which makes me hope that in the AF it has "Enhances added effect of spells" or "enhances added effect accuracy"

[Russta]

Has anyone 75ish tried BLU/BLM on HNMs or what-have-you? or even with pimp gear and junk magical spells still suckass... sorry if this is dead topic brought back to life

blu has a much greater 'spell combo" for magic attack bonus that a sj blm can't match (and dosne't stack)

I was thinkin more along the lines of the INT bonus from /BLM but...

I was thinking about the benefits on elemental seal.

[Excalin Garisk]

I've launched many,many head butts as RDM/BLU just when fucking around on EP (spiderslol) and up , the stun has proc'd once.

Sword merits/bonus? ACC bonus? Rdm Has a B rating naturally in Sword to start. Maybe a merited weapon that is naturally A+, and a significant amount of ACC bonus gear(50+).

[Raineer]

I've launched many,many head butts as RDM/BLU just when fucking around on EP (spiderslol) and up , the stun has proc'd once.

Sword merits/bonus? ACC bonus? Rdm Has a B rating naturally in Sword to start. Maybe a merited weapon that is naturally A+, and a significant amount of ACC bonus gear(50+).

Well I was fighting a level 60 spider with 261 sword skill, if you need more than that then bleh...it's nothing you're going to make use of subbed on a HNM unless you are THF/BLU

[NynJa]

didnt SE ninjanerf headbutt since it was essentially a 2man stun rotation ??


though they really need to change the description on Head Butt if thats the case.

[Excalin Garisk]

yeah it was nerfed. I am just looking to see if there is a point where it can be made to work again and at what difficulty of mob.

[Vobent]

Maybe int effects the lenth/if it stuns?

[Excalin Garisk]

*shrugs* I just want it to proc lol

[DrObvious]

Has anyone 75ish tried BLU/BLM on HNMs or what-have-you? or even with pimp gear and junk magical spells still suckass... sorry if this is dead topic brought back to life

blu has a much greater 'spell combo" for magic attack bonus that a sj blm can't match (and dosne't stack)

That's wrong. Blu gets first tier traits through spell combos. In this case, you can get mab I through spell combos(20 mab) while getting mab II(24 mab) at level 60+.