Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Raineer]

You cannot stun any mob immune to magical stun

It does work on Pots with magic shield up, and Chelvnik from what I've heard as well. Need to define what you mean by "immune"

[Excalin Garisk]

How does Refueling compare to Haste in % haste given?

Its less. I think its 15%, not sure. But its so easily testable I dont know why you feel the need to ask.

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[JoOeetheplatypuS]

You cannot stun any mob immune to magical stun

It does work on Pots with magic shield up, and Chelvnik from what I've heard as well. Need to define what you mean by "immune"

Thats immune to magic, not stun. You have to know WHY the spell is resisted on the mob. For example: Kirin resists stun often because he's earth based but, say, a thunder elemental is immune to the effect of stun no matter how you use it. Physical magic is, in many ways, more like a WS than a spell. The trait "Resist Stun" also can stop it.

[Excalin Garisk]

Speaking of confusion with Blue Mage Magic classifications... I was wondering if anyone taken Blu into ENM50 with the MRs. Want to find data to back my assumption that Blue Magic can be used to damage the Red MR no matter what immunity MR you take out. something like feather storm for range normal physical blue magic for well physical and magical for magic.

[Gulkeeva]

Did a Dynamis jueno, wore soorta random gear didn't really try to boostup my def max with gear etc, my def is about 410~415 with P4 + cacoon.

swapped in a voyager sallet+ flora cotahedre for +7 STR +4 dex on spells
wasen't using any warmup, just acc boost combo used bream sushi for +dex

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/dyn4.jpg

using a ifrits blade (tp bonus for savage or vorpal pretty much sucked sicne that stuff barely did over 200 and did a usual near 100

Weapon ifirit blade
Pcharm
amemet+1
warewolf belt
pallas braclet +9 str
swapped in femina sublingar for def >.> yes for def damit!
ethral earring (for the bomb toss/aeos)
minuet earring
serket
+4 str ring
savage gaiters
+5 str merit +80MP merit

during dynamis I noticed some my debuffs had a "decent" rate of landing like chaotic eye, voracious trunk, yawn

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/dyn2.jpg

Cannonball on a Goblin with P4 and cacoon (averaged about 500-800)
screenshot of highest one I saw

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/dyn3.jpg

and on a Goblin Replica

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/dyn1.jpg

sa+ca, I shoulda tried with 2 hour but in a dynamis where hate makes mobs spin in 360's or die near instant I didn't really find a time or place to try it without wasting it.

Cannonball averaged about 200-220 on whatever it hit with no sa+ca, shoots through floors etc. magic fruit was nice to heal blm's in my pt that tend to run around with hate all over the place where normal cures would of oor.

disseverment did about 200-600ish, with sneak attack it averaged a constant 400ish, cannonball averaged about 300~400 sa'ed. Frenetic rip did average 200 to everything, sa about 300's. sa frypan hit 250's constantly and always stunned, heat breath bomb toss resisted alot.

[Gulkeeva]

Updated
http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/BlumageNFO.htm

its pretty much 100% translated with all info and damage calculations/formulas

[Celeras]

More Blue Magic skill = increased base D of offensive spells eh?

If I weren't leveling rdm, if dump a few merits in Blue Magic and try to confirm that since its listed as unconfirmed on the site.. but I have a feeling im going to need to save ;x Any volunteers?

[pii]

Well the first time I tried to solo this ENM, I died, reraised, killed it, but ran just out of time to open coffer
5 Days later, I wiped at 2%, reraised, but didnt have any ranged attack to actually reclaim it before it started to regen -.-
Today, finally, a clean kill :D

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9514/solo1gw.jpg


Heat Butt is really the way to win this ENM. After every cast, cast Head Butt right after it, like Disserverment > Head Butt > Utsusemi > Heat Butt > Frenetic Rip > Head Butt > etc

Shadows are also very importnant , because Cyclotail can easily deal 600+ damage if 0 shadows are up.

[Hiruke]

Not sure if this was covered or not, but I got pretty bored today:

At 48 total MND and 276 skill, Metallic Body absorbed 115 damage from 1000 Needles. Diamondhide absorbed 184 damage.

At 65 total MND and 276 skill, Metallic Body absorbed 115 damage from 1000 Needles. Diamondhide absorbed 184 damage.

I used spells to boost MND, so VIT was boosted as well (some spells boosted both stats). Therefore I didn't bother to test VIT separately since it clearly had no effect. I imagine it is affected solely by level and/or skill, though since I didn't test it before now, I have no way to increase either to check. (I have full elemental merits and do not wish to remove them at this time.)

I basically fought Cactaurs solo and kept shadows up, making sure my SS remained virgin. This is about as disappointing to me as MAB not affecting breath. Or the fact breath damage is calculated by current hp rather than max.

Also, are spikes calculated the same as enspells are for RDM, etc.? Both Reactor Cool and Plasma Charge dealt 18 damage spikes, which is consistent with 276 skill if they are analagous.

[Airshort7]

Well the first time I tried to solo this ENM, I died, reraised, killed it, but ran just out of time to open coffer
5 Days later, I wiped at 2%, reraised, but didnt have any ranged attack to actually reclaim it before it started to regen -.-
Today, finally, a clean kill :D

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9514/solo1gw.jpg


Heat Butt is really the way to win this ENM. After every cast, cast Head Butt right after it, like Disserverment > Head Butt > Utsusemi > Heat Butt > Frenetic Rip > Head Butt > etc

Shadows are also very importnant , because Cyclotail can easily deal 600+ damage if 0 shadows are up.

Is that a shadow mantle? ; ;

[Vobent]

Cerb mantle, I'de guess.

[Stanislav]

Well the first time I tried to solo this ENM, I died, reraised, killed it, but ran just out of time to open coffer
5 Days later, I wiped at 2%, reraised, but didnt have any ranged attack to actually reclaim it before it started to regen -.-
Today, finally, a clean kill :D

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9514/solo1gw.jpg


Heat Butt is really the way to win this ENM. After every cast, cast Head Butt right after it, like Disserverment > Head Butt > Utsusemi > Heat Butt > Frenetic Rip > Head Butt > etc

Shadows are also very importnant , because Cyclotail can easily deal 600+ damage if 0 shadows are up.

Is that a shadow mantle? ; ;

shadow mantles are still special?o.o
and ya thats a cerb mantle

[Not Kuno]

Is Dissector worth getting for blu?

[Gulkeeva]

Is Dissector worth getting for blu?

Very much so, it will inproce multi hit spells like dissector/frenetic rip/hysteric barrage, and do near/over 1000 without the need of sneak attack or chain affinity at times.

[TsingTao]

Strance that Dissector would pass its bonus on to spells while the Martial Analece would not. I don't claim to understand SE's "logic" though.

Not complaining, it's a nice blade no matter what. That's just gravy.

Also, ver impressive Pii!

[Russta]

Is Dissector worth getting for blu?

Yeah it is and it's damn easy to get too. We did four Double Dragonian's as COR, BLMx4; Thundaga III>Sleepga 2>Thundaga III, over. Got two Dissectors, a Subduer and a pair of Destroyers (which all pretty much went to waste other than the wanted Dissector) but pretty crappy money drops.

[Not Kuno]

Is Dissector worth getting for blu?

Yeah it is and it's damn easy to get too. We did four Double Dragonian's as COR, BLMx4; Thundaga III>Sleepga 2>Thundaga III, over. Got two Dissectors, a Subduer and a pair of Destroyers (which all pretty much went to waste other than the wanted Dissector) but pretty crappy money drops.

Screw that Im going on blu to learn body slam.

[Airshort7]

[quote=Not Kuno]

Is Dissector worth getting for blu?

Yeah it is and it's damn easy to get too. We did four Double Dragonian's as COR, BLMx4; Thundaga III>Sleepga 2>Thundaga III, over. Got two Dissectors, a Subduer and a pair of Destroyers (which all pretty much went to waste other than the wanted Dissector) but pretty crappy money drops.

Screw that Im going on blu to learn body slam.[/quote:47610]

After killing Dahaks to get body slam at like lvl 65ish, I'm convinced it was the time spent / reward ratio was like that of COP.

[Not Kuno]

[quote=Airshort7]

Is Dissector worth getting for blu?

Yeah it is and it's damn easy to get too. We did four Double Dragonian's as COR, BLMx4; Thundaga III>Sleepga 2>Thundaga III, over. Got two Dissectors, a Subduer and a pair of Destroyers (which all pretty much went to waste other than the wanted Dissector) but pretty crappy money drops.

Screw that Im going on blu to learn body slam.

After killing Dahaks to get body slam at like lvl 65ish, I'm convinced it was the time spent / reward ratio was like that of COP.[/quote:baabe]

Well I know that the DD Dragons do Body Slam like crazy motherfuckers.

[NynJa]

Strance that Dissector would pass its bonus on to spells while the Martial Analece would not. I don't claim to understand SE's "logic" though.

So I should sell this Martial Anelace I got layin around ? booooo