Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Moochi, that's because the randomness of the damage is capped on players, which is noticable on low level mobs. The damage range would go higher than 660 on those bees but instead goes 660. Think of it like a damage range from 590-710 with an even chance of landing on any number but the numbers above 660 just become 660.

[Moochi]

Moochi, that's because the randomness of the damage is capped on players, which is noticable on low level mobs. The damage range would go higher than 660 on those bees but instead goes 660. Think of it like a damage range from 590-710 with an even chance of landing on any number but the numbers above 660 just become 660.

Ah, makes sense. Though, with regular melee hits you never hit those constant numbers 50% of the time or am just being stupid?

[solsovly]

This has probably already been covered but if you use the monster correlation chart and use a physical spell e.g Death Scissors on a Mandy you get a 16.7% dmg bonus. 666 Death Scissors on Bee went up to 777 on a Mandy. If you do it the other way around (like Uppercut vs a bee) you get a 16.7% dmg decrease. I'd like to put a merit into that just to see how much it increases. I didn't try this with the AF hat cause I don't have it yet.

Sounds like how Killer Traits used to work before th NA release (or so I'm told), that is pretty neat.

why didn't they let bst keep this /emo

[aurik]

Moochi, that's because the randomness of the damage is capped on players, which is noticable on low level mobs. The damage range would go higher than 660 on those bees but instead goes 660. Think of it like a damage range from 590-710 with an even chance of landing on any number but the numbers above 660 just become 660.

Ah, makes sense. Though, with regular melee hits you never hit those constant numbers 50% of the time or am just being stupid?

You do, when your attack rating vs monster def is in certain ranges.

[Shinypantsu]

I'm VERY bored, while sitting on the beach, so here:

Unreleased Blue Mage Spells(By Family):

Ahriman:
LV 5 Petri?: ROM\161\118.dat
Arrow Sheild?: ROM\161\119.dat
Magic Shield: ROM\161\120.dat

Anticans:
Sand Trap: ROM\161\126.dat

Bats:
(Whatever their Attack Down is): ROM\161\46.dat
Blood Drain: ROM\161\48.dat
Merrow Drain: ROM\161\49.dat

Bee:
Final Sting: ROM\161\64.dat

Crabs:
Bubble Shield: ROM\161\50.dat

Dhalmel:
Whistle: ROM\161\92.dat

Dolls:
Panzershreck?(lightning one): ROM\161\111.dat

Ghost:
Some Ghost move(shadows come from under and the little showish status come around him): ROM\162\87.dat

Goblins:
Goblin Rush: ROM\161\57.dat

Moblin/Dynamis Gobrin:
Little Paraysis Shower of whatever: ROM\161\60.dat

Hecteyes:
Hex Eye: ROM\161\116.dat

Krakens:
Ink Jet: ROM\161\103.dat

Leeches:
Yellow Drain: ROM\161\76.dat

Lizards:
Secretion: ROM\161\72.dat
Plaugebreath: ROM\161\73.dat
Fireball: ROM\162\19.dat

Manticore:
Great Sandstorm: ROM\162\16.dat

Mandragora:
Dream Flower: ROM\161\68.dat
Photosynthesis: ROM\161\70.dat

Opo-Opo:
Whatever their other move is: ROM\161\121.dat

Orc:
Aerial Wheel: ROM\161\80.dat

Pugils:
Intimidate: ROM\161\54.dat

Puks:
White Wind(zomg): ROM\162\92.dat

Qudav:
Shell Guard: ROM\161\79.dat

Rabbits:
Wild Carrot: ROM\161\53.dat

Sahagin:
Bubble Shield: ROM\161\127.dat

Sheep:
Berserk: ROM\161\84.dat

Spider:
Spider Web: ROM\161\113.dat (Now you really can Shot Web!)

Tiger:
Roar: ROM\161\100.dat

Tonberries:
Everyone's Grudge: ROM\162\14.dat
Everyone's Rancor(Possibly Unstable, it's only the animation, don't know if it will include casting animation): ROM\146\127.dat
Sigh: ROM\161\90.dat

Worms:
Gastric Bomb: ROM\161\43.dat
Sound Vacuum: ROM\161\45.dat

Yagudo:
Sweep: ROM\161\62.dat





Already Learnable BLU magic (To Swap With):

Worms:
Sandspin: ROM\161\44.dat

Bats:
Blood Drain: ROM\161\48.dat

Crab:
Metallic Body: ROM\161\51.dat

Rabbit:
Foot Kick: ROM\161\52.dat

Pugils:
Screwdriver: ROM\161\55.dat

Cardians:
Bludgeon: ROM\161\56.dat (fun to replace since after forever of using it the animation gets old)

Goblin:
bomb Toss: ROM\161\58.dat
Frypan: ROM\161\59.dat

Yagudo:
Feather Storm: ROM\161\61.dat

Bee:
Pollen: ROM\161\63.dat

Bird:
Helldive: ROM\161\65.dat

Sprouts:
Sprout Smack: ROM\161\66.dat

Mandragora:
Wild Oats: ROM\161\69.dat

Lizards:
Infrasonics: ROM\161\71.dat

Leech:
MP Drainkiss: ROM\161\77.dat

Qudav:
Head Butt: ROM\161\78.dat

Orc:
Battle Dance: ROM\161\81.dat

Sheep:
Sheep Song: ROM\161\85.dat

Dhalmel:
Healing Breeze: ROM\161\93.dat

Fly:
Cursed Sphere: ROM\161\99.dat

Tiger:
Claw Cyclone: ROM\161\101.dat

Raptors:
Frost Breath: ROM\161\102.dat

Krakens:
Maelstrom: ROM\161\104.dat

Couerl:
Chaotic Eye: ROM\161\105.dat

Gigas:
Grand Slam: ROM\161\110.dat

Spider:
Sickle Slash: ROM\161\112.dat

Hecteyes:
Death Ray: ROM\161\115.dat

Eft:
Geist Wall: ROM\161\117.dat

Opo-Opo:
Magic Fruit: ROM\161\122.dat

Treant:
Pinecone Bomb: ROM\161\124.dat

Antican:
Magnetite Cloud: ROM\161\125.dat

Sahagin:
Hydro Shot?: ROM\162\0.dat

Taurus:
Frightful Roar(I believe): ROM\162\2.dat

Cluster:
Refueling: ROM\162\4.dat

Golem:
Ice Break: ROM\162\7.dat

Wyvern:
Radiant Breath: ROM\162\8.dat

Diremites:
Filamented Hold: ROM\162\9.dat

Cactuars:
1k Needles: ROM\162\10.dat

Tonberries:
Light of Penance: ROM\162\13.dat

Manticore:
Heat Breath: ROM\162\15.dat

Greater Bird:
Feather Shield: ROM\162\17.dat

Aern:
Dissevernment: ROM\162\24.dat

Colibri:
Feather Tickle (I berieve): ROM\162\88.dat

Phaubo:
Plasma Charge: ROM\162\26.dat

Grah:
Actinic Burst: ROM\162\27.dat (I think so anyway<.<)

Zdei:
Their little buff move: ROM\162\28.dat

Imp:
Frenetic Rip: ROM\162\90.dat

Mamool Ja:
Warm Up: ROM\162\94.dat
Fire Spit: ROM\162\100.dat

Trolls:
Diamondhide: ROM\162\95.dat
Enervation: ROM\162\96.dat

Lamia:
Hysteric Barrage: ROM\162\97.dat
Tail Slap: ROM\162\98.dat


If you can contribute any, or have any requests for me to search for, Post
or send me a PM. (After I post I'll arrange Families in Aphabetical Order)

[Demitrius]

I'm going to try to test today how much the AF Head increases the monster correlation bonus. I'll get back here with results.

[Demitrius]

Ooooooookay, so... Did all of these with the same attack of 442. All SA, no CA.

str 58+43, Optical Hat, Bumblebee

606
606
606
560
586
568
606
533

Hit damage cap 4 times out of 8, 606 damage.

str 58+43, Optical Hat, Tiny Mandragora

658
673
708
708
708
690
708
670

Hit damage cap 4 times out of 8, 708 damage (16.7% increase, same as last guy's data).

str 58+43, Magus Keffiyeh, Tiny Mandragora

714
714
714
709
714
637
714
714

Hit damage cap 6 times out of 8, 714 damage.

str 58+43, Magus Keffiyeh, Bumblebee

549
564
538
562
533
540
606
589

Hit damage cap 1 time out of 8, 606 damage.


So what I'm seeing here is that the damage increase from the Keffiyeh is very small, only increasing the damage cap against a mob weak to the spell from 16.7% to 17.8%.

The real difference, though, seems to be in the consistency in hitting that damage cap. Notice that with the Keffiyeh on, I hit the damage cap against the Mandragora almost every time. Also, with it on the numbers on the bee (vermin, same class) were all over the place. Make of it what you will, but that's my take.

[Priran]

I've found that the BLU ENM fucking sucks.

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/fc065eae1d.jpg

Where the fuck is my chakram? 4 attempts, 1 loss, 3 with no drops at all. I got my MNK earring in 1 go, what the fuck?

[Rellikard]

I've found that the BLU ENM fucking sucks.

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/fc065eae1d.jpg

Where the fuck is my chakram? 4 attempts, 1 loss, 3 with no drops at all. I got my MNK earring in 1 go, what the fuck?

I'm like 0/17 on BLM =(

[CubsWoo]

Anyone know of a good, safe Halvung spot to get both Flans and Wamoura? I've been getting most of my spells 2-boxing with a MNK/NIN and BLU/WHM but I've spent almost no time in the Halvung/Mt. Z area and was wondering if they're both in similar areas or if you need to camp one, then move to camp the other.

[inafume]

Dunno if you could safely duo the VT flans and wamouras with that setup, but... near the BCNM zone off of Mt. Zhayolm there are both wamouras and flans nearby.

[Russta]

Anyone know of a good, safe Halvung spot to get both Flans and Wamoura? I've been getting most of my spells 2-boxing with a MNK/NIN and BLU/WHM but I've spent almost no time in the Halvung/Mt. Z area and was wondering if they're both in similar areas or if you need to camp one, then move to camp the other.

http://russta.livejournal.com/89748.html

[Sho]

I've found that the BLU ENM fucking sucks.

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/fc065eae1d.jpg

Where the fuck is my chakram? 4 attempts, 1 loss, 3 with no drops at all. I got my MNK earring in 1 go, what the fuck?

After a bunch of runs:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/652...4223242ox6.png

Thank god the BC is easy as shit to do... droprate could be better tho, 0/something on the earring.

(I have no idea how I wanna use the charges, probaby when I main heal, or some shit)

[Celeras]

Are the additional effects from Magical Blu spells (Paralysis Frost Breath, Weight from M.Light/M.Cloud, etc) 100% proc? I know theyre not when regarding physical spells, but ive never been in a situation to test magical.

[Janice]

I've found that the BLU ENM fucking sucks.

Where the fuck is my chakram? 4 attempts, 1 loss, 3 with no drops at all. I got my MNK earring in 1 go, what the fuck?

Any reason why you actually want it?

[Priran]

I've found that the BLU ENM fucking sucks.

Where the fuck is my chakram? 4 attempts, 1 loss, 3 with no drops at all. I got my MNK earring in 1 go, what the fuck?

Any reason why you actually want it?

e-peen

Are the additional effects from Magical Blu spells (Paralysis Frost Breath, Weight from M.Light/M.Cloud, etc) 100% proc? I know theyre not when regarding physical spells, but ive never been in a situation to test magical.

no

[Celeras]

Are the additional effects from Magical Blu spells (Paralysis Frost Breath, Weight from M.Light/M.Cloud, etc) 100% proc? I know theyre not when regarding physical spells, but ive never been in a situation to test magical.

no

Damn I wanted to try to do Amikiri with Grav/binds/muslums.

I'm bored.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Are the additional effects from Magical Blu spells (Paralysis Frost Breath, Weight from M.Light/M.Cloud, etc) 100% proc? I know theyre not when regarding physical spells, but ive never been in a situation to test magical.

no

Damn I wanted to try to do Amikiri with Grav/binds/muslums.

I'm bored.

Think about how rediculous Radiant Breath would be. 100% land on Silence and Slow.

[FFXIFlux]

Think about how rediculous Radiant Breath would be. 100% land on Silence and Slow.

Radiant Breath seemed to have a really high land rate when I was leveling, on mobs I was having trouble getting chaotic eye to land, radiant breath had no problems. Bad Breath on the other hand might be lucky to land 1 or 2 ailments. Then there's 1000 Needles, which doesn't have any status ailments but never lands either.

[Celeras]

Are the additional effects from Magical Blu spells (Paralysis Frost Breath, Weight from M.Light/M.Cloud, etc) 100% proc? I know theyre not when regarding physical spells, but ive never been in a situation to test magical.

no

Damn I wanted to try to do Amikiri with Grav/binds/muslums.

I'm bored.

Think about how rediculous Radiant Breath would be. 100% land on Silence and Slow.

Would be fine if it was a weak slow.