Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Hiruke]

Yes, staves increase accuracy as well as potency. Even with breath spells, before the patch, you could see a massive difference in how often you landed them for full damage (ie, unresisted) when you wore the appropriate staff as opposed to just casting with swords on.

Of course, using staves pretty much means you'll never have TP on swords, so you'd have to choose something to focus on for a given fight.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Yes, staves increase accuracy as well as potency. Even with breath spells, before the patch, you could see a massive difference in how often you landed them for full damage (ie, unresisted) when you wore the appropriate staff as opposed to just casting with swords on.

Of course, using staves pretty much means you'll never have TP on swords, so you'd have to choose something to focus on for a given fight.

I would like to point this out as one of the cool things about BLU. Its about choices. It can do most anything eventually, it has a strong cure, strong buffs, strong debuffs, strong damage, etc but it can't be all at once. People may complain about the blue point limit but it really makes it a much more interesting job to play. It makes you need to know what you're facing and prepare well. Good jobe SE.

[Sho]

Yes, staves increase accuracy as well as potency. Even with breath spells, before the patch, you could see a massive difference in how often you landed them for full damage (ie, unresisted) when you wore the appropriate staff as opposed to just casting with swords on.

Of course, using staves pretty much means you'll never have TP on swords, so you'd have to choose something to focus on for a given fight.

I would like to point this out as one of the cool things about BLU. Its about choices. It can do most anything eventually, it has a strong cure, strong buffs, strong debuffs, strong damage, etc but it can't be all at once. People may complain about the blue point limit but it really makes it a much more interesting job to play. It makes you need to know what you're facing and prepare well. Good jobe SE.

Yea basically. >.> Yo Gulke, I cried IRL when Chaotic Eye landed on Imps last night... BLU merits are made of win.

[Jeryhn]

and as far as I know staff enahnces "potency" not accuacy >.>

Elemental staves effect potency and accuracy for their matching element. Think of it sorta like meriting magic potency on BLM or magic accuracy on RDM, in the way they are separated into elements.

[Razz]

K so basically you're saying they fail when you didnt even use the correct gear with them, and still came out with decent results.

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and as far as I know staff enahnces "potency" not accuacy >.>

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[Gulkeeva]

K so basically you're saying they fail when you didnt even use the correct gear with them, and still came out with decent results.

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and as far as I know staff enahnces "potency" not accuacy >.>

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well, I went going thinking "eh we'll have enough people I probably won't be in main alliance" since I went mostly blu jsut to massacre random stuff near entrance for organs to pop the stuff

[Judah]

is there a compilation post yet with all the useful shit in this thread? god knows im not going through... 106 pages... though i could.. and reply to every post individually.... hmmmm....

[Celeras]

Has anyone figured out V.Cleave yet? For a spell that has "Damage varies with TP" as a description, I havent noticed any difference whatsoever between 100 and 300% tp. Its by far the best 100 tp SA spell available, but because it doesnt build with tp, other spells out shine it with 300%.

[Gulkeeva]

Has anyone figured out V.Cleave yet? For a spell that has "Damage varies with TP" as a description, I havent noticed any difference whatsoever between 100 and 300% tp. Its by far the best 100 tp SA spell available, but because it doesnt build with tp, other spells out shine it with 300%.

http://www.neko-sentai.com/images/BlumageNFO.htm
thats because its jsut a constant modifier although the info i think the info is wrong or the spell was modified from a SE patch sicne it seems lower below 100% tp and hits max damage at 100%TP~300% tp with or without azure lore.

Well azure lore atleast makes the 0% hit like a 100% >.>

[Zihn]

http://home.no/zihn/firespit.jpg

Playing around with far from optimal blu nuking gear... this spell got some potential.

[Celeras]

Nice damage.

Eyes On Me seems like, on paper, it would have the most potential of the elemental blu spells. Have you done any testing with that one?

[Priran]

Nice damage.

Eyes On Me seems like, on paper, it would have the most potential of the elemental blu spells. Have you done any testing with that one?

68　Firespit 　 Fire　 INT_20 MND_20 3.00
61　Eyes on Me Darkness　 CHR_40　　　　 2.625

how do you figure

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Nice damage.

Eyes On Me seems like, on paper, it would have the most potential of the elemental blu spells. Have you done any testing with that one?

If nothing else its the only dark based real nuke in the game. Also it is apparently enhanced by wtfCHR.

[Celeras]

Nice damage.

Eyes On Me seems like, on paper, it would have the most potential of the elemental blu spells. Have you done any testing with that one?

68　Firespit 　 Fire　 INT_20 MND_20 3.00
61　Eyes on Me Darkness　 CHR_40　　　　 2.625

how do you figure

Darkness Nuke, one modifier, and its possible to get INSANE amounts of chr with fairly cheap gear. I wouldnt be surprised if +100 were possible.

[Russta]

What swords do people recomend using? I know this sort of thing should be obvious to me but all I do is look through the lists and think "ugh". I'm currently dual wielding a pair of Msk.Cmd. Falchions and am unsure when to upgrade next. Leech Scimitars are obviously good but 3mil each is a bit unrealistic and I tossed my Ifrit's Sword a loooooong time ago (and as we all know, that can't be re-quested). I'm seriously not seeing a real upgrade till Dissector and even then, what's good offhand D:

Edit: Just noticed this which I guess trumps one MC Falchion. And it's a fucking Kilij!

[Kaziel]

Darkness Nuke, one modifier, and its possible to get INSANE amounts of chr with fairly cheap gear. I wouldnt be surprised if +100 were possible.

Not to mention there are tons of BLU spells that have +CHR modifiers, and a lot of those are cheap spells only costing a point or two.

[TsingTao]

Strangely enough Eyes On Me is one of the few things that I don't remember seeing anyone test seriously at end game. It could be failing memory of course, there's a bit of info out there to mentally sort.

Anyone done any nuking focused on Eyes on Me? There most certainly is a lot of easy +CHR gear out there to play with as a BLU. The spell looks a tad expensive MP-wise but it might be nice if you kow you'll be focusing on Darkness chains. Could be nice in Dynamis too.

[FFXIFlux]

Strangely enough Eyes On Me is one of the few things that I don't remember seeing anyone test seriously at end game. It could be failing memory of course, there's a bit of info out there to mentally sort.

Thats because people tried it in XP and found out it's shit. And seriously, who has room to bring +CHR gear on top of all the other shit BLU needs? DEF for cannonball, STR, VIT, magic accuracy, MND for healing etc. etc. It's ludicrous.

What swords do people recomend using?

I use Ifrit offhand and http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/2294 main since it's high damage, fast and cheap. I don't think any of the post 70 swords are any huge bonus over the others, although I'd drop my scimitar for a Shiva's Shotel in a second.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Strangely enough Eyes On Me is one of the few things that I don't remember seeing anyone test seriously at end game. It could be failing memory of course, there's a bit of info out there to mentally sort.

Thats because people tried it in XP and found out it's shit. And seriously, who has room to bring +CHR gear on top of all the other shit BLU needs? DEF for cannonball, STR, VIT, magic accuracy, MND for healing etc. etc. It's ludicrous.

With a bit of forsight you can figure out what you'll need ahead of time.

[TsingTao]

Strangely enough Eyes On Me is one of the few things that I don't remember seeing anyone test seriously at end game. It could be failing memory of course, there's a bit of info out there to mentally sort.

Thats because people tried it in XP and found out it's shit. And seriously, who has room to bring +CHR gear on top of all the other shit BLU needs? DEF for cannonball, STR, VIT, magic accuracy, MND for healing etc. etc. It's ludicrous.

- That early "it sucks for exp" testing was done before anyone had capped Merits (BLU Magic, Magic potency).
- That early "it sucks for exp" testing was done by people that didn't bother to carry +40CHR.
- That early "it sucks for exp" testing was done before AF was introduced.

I remember that early testing....it didn't seem that helpful. I don't care what the random Allah crowd did vs. Toramas at 62 when trying the spell off the cuff. I was hoping some people here with a clue and an eye towards end game had some input.

PS: Lots of things that used to suck don't any more now that people have AF and capped merits.