Blue Mage: Best thread ever

[Cylo]

"Hooked on phonics" doesn't teach proper punctuation. Cute avatar Daemonxel.

[Celeras]

Been doing more testing with the hard damage caps I mentioned earlier, and ive only been able to recreate the situation by exploiting both type+correlation weaknesses with AF head (in the other example, Dimensional Death on Aura Pots because theyre weak to both Blunt, and Undead moves.)

Even on wild rabbits, i havent been able to hard cap the damage with anything. Even with a brd and negative stats in errant, it will still have a random range. But on T mobs, with both these weaknesses I was able to cap the damage consistently? It leads me to believe that it might have something to do with correlations working in a wacky way.

Has anyone else done any testing on this? Heres my original post if youre curious, its on page 110 at the bottom.

So yeah, Hard damage caps are gay.

Dimensional Death, 50% Str, Undead spell, Blunt spell. Aura pots, weak to blunt, weak to undead.

CASA 100% tp: 1000-1200
CASA 200% tp: 1350, always
CASA 300% tp: 1350, always

On the dot damage, everytime.

CASA 300% tp with an additional 9 str(all i could muster at the time): 1393

On the dot. Capped.

And if youre interested, Azure Lore + CASA 300% in the original setup did 1175. My money is on it removing the Monster Correlation bonus, cos SE would be just stupid enough to overlook that. Or it setting spells to a fixed TP %, lower then 300 ;x

[Koyangi]

I already have Body Slam, but just for sake of argument and clarity, Shadow Dragon cannot use it correct? I tried for hours, with 4 people it always did Grand Slam or w/e. I learned from Dahak in Mount Zhayolm. Someone is swearing up and down to me that Shadow Dragon uses it. plz clarify, thanks.

[Celeras]

Doesnt use it.

I got mine from Double Dragonian

[Gulkeeva]

I already have Body Slam, but just for sake of argument and clarity, Shadow Dragon cannot use it correct? I tried for hours, with 4 people it always did Grand Slam or w/e. I learned from Dahak in Mount Zhayolm. Someone is swearing up and down to me that Shadow Dragon uses it. plz clarify, thanks.

I'm like 99% sure that shadow dragon dosen't use it. I tried with 3 accounts at once all with provoke ability doing various stuff to the dragon to try to get it to do body slam as rumours say "forces it" to do body slam.

Mount Zhayolm just freely use it no matter where the hate is atleast, so its easy to get.

[Goddess]

He doesn't use it, already tried lonnnng time ago. Dahaks or Double Dragonian, maybe even Ash Dragon are the keys.

lolallakhazam

[nekoshoonen]

Enhanced Dragon (100% sure) also use it so do the dragons in Dyna-X (not 100% sure)

[Doc]

Going back to the posts on potentially useful magical BLU spells to burst with (ie Firespit, Eyes On Me.. not debuffs etc)..... is it safe to say there really aren't any? Has anyone obtained some really impressive numbers bursting with anything? On HNM? Sadly they seem mediocre at best...

[Gulkeeva]

Going back to the posts on potentially useful magical BLU spells to burst with (ie Firespit, Eyes On Me.. not debuffs etc)..... is it safe to say there really aren't any? Has anyone obtained some really impressive numbers bursting with anything? On HNM? Sadly they seem mediocre at best...

Well Firespit caps for me around or near 1300's...

With magic accuracy etc it might do 800-1100 on NM and 600-900? on HNM...?

Havne't really got to test it since everyone wants me to go as blm to everything ^^;

[Celeras]

I dunno if this is odl or not, because its quite possible I missed something in this 128 page thread, but here't goes.

While I was helping a friend and fellow blu learn 1000 needles, I noticed that my hide was absorbing 188 damage from it. I couldnt quite remember what the number was, but off the top of my head at the time, I was thinking that it was supposed to be a constant 184. This made me think of the merits I decided to throw into blue magic skill, so I came back later with a smn friend of mine and did some testing:

Again, sorry if this is odl, but as far as I know Diamondhide was supposed to be a constant absorb number with no modifier.

Blu/Whm, 3 people taking damage from needles (333 base):

Normal gear, no +mnd or +skill: 145 taken
Mnd+35 gear: 145 taken
AF body: 135 taken

And while I was at it:

/whm Stoneskin(enhancing not even close to capped), mnd+35 gear: 141 taken
Metallic Body, Normal gear: 215 taken
Metallic Body, Mnd+35 gear: 215 taken
Metallic Body, AF body: 210 taken

The more I post this out, the more I think its odl information. But it was news to me

[Moochi]

Ya, it's odl.

[DrObvious]

How many merits do you have?

[Moochi]

How many merits do you have?

I'm gonna guess he has 4 (8 skill). Blue skill makes it absorb about 0.5 per point.

[Celeras]

Moochi wins.

[Mertron]

Yay, we claimed Tiamat.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9241/cannonhw3.jpg

(Yeah I know, cannonball damage on Tiamat is olde)

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[nekoshoonen]

I know it's probably on one of these pages, i just can't find which.

can you learn moves from Besieged?

[Kurp]

I know it's probably on one of these pages, i just can't find which.

can you learn moves from Besieged?

Yes. But the monster has to be killed by someone in your party or alliance, I believe.

[jiang]

so whats the conclusion? is BLU a good job? useful? overall, will it make an impact on the HNM scene? Is it over powered?

[Valrath]

so whats the conclusion? is BLU a good job? useful? overall, will it make an impact on the HNM scene? Is it over powered?

Look up 3 posts... (and throughout the thread)

[Priran]

so whats the conclusion? is BLU a good job? useful? overall, will it make an impact on the HNM scene? Is it over powered?

It's a worthwhile addition to the DD round-up, much like COR to Support, but it's nothing endgamebreaking nor is it a challenge to WAR's/MNK's merit throne