Walahra Turban

[aurik]

I would definitely laugh at people who blow 150k+ per synth for leather 89-100

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/5942
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/1308
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/5915
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6499

I guess it depends on your server. You wouldnt be able to skill up on blessed pumps or bison body on my server unless you planned to hit 100 in like a year or you already have alot of loot. Those 2 synths are dominated by 2 crafters.

Buffalo hides are usually quite cheap last I checked--though admittedly it's not an item I check often--you could literally toss the bison jackets away and spend less than making/desynthing panther masks. Only thing tough to get would be the buffalo horns, but if you make friends with the blms that constantly farm the king buffalos for exp and gil, I'm sure you'd have more than enough.

As for rate of skillup, I guess I'm used to clothcraft (where you actually make and sell real items throughout the 90s in order to skill up, instead of just burning gil) so I wouldn't see the problem making/selling 3-4 blessed pumps a week in addition to bison jackets. I got more than my fair share of skillups on blessed mitts/cursed mitts/blessed trousers/cursed slacks/etc.

I guess most people would rather sink 4m+ gil per craft level, and then wonder why they never seem to make back their crafting investments.

[Veli]

I would definitely laugh at people who blow 150k+ per synth for leather 89-100

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/5942
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/1308
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/5915
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6499

I guess it depends on your server. You wouldnt be able to skill up on blessed pumps or bison body on my server unless you planned to hit 100 in like a year or you already have alot of loot. Those 2 synths are dominated by 2 crafters.

Buffalo hides are usually quite cheap last I checked--though admittedly it's not an item I check often--you could literally toss the bison jackets away and spend less than making/desynthing panther masks. Only thing tough to get would be the buffalo horns, but if you make friends with the blms that constantly farm the king buffalos for exp and gil, I'm sure you'd have more than enough.

As for rate of skillup, I guess I'm used to clothcraft (where you actually make and sell real items throughout the 90s in order to skill up, instead of just burning gil) so I wouldn't see the problem making/selling 3-4 blessed pumps a week in addition to bison jackets. I got more than my fair share of skillups on blessed mitts/cursed mitts/blessed trousers/cursed slacks/etc.

I guess most people would rather sink 4m+ gil per craft level, and then wonder why they never seem to make back their crafting investments.

Oh..I thought on your clothcraft guide you said 94-98 dance shoes. But anyway I skilled on that stuff you just said while doing CC and made about 90m off them. I really like CC even though it seems cheap as hell to level theres alot of stuff to be made that sells fast for a nice price. Most people like to PL craft and they skip all the break even synths just to reach 100 faster. If you make your own materials dance shoes are only 100-120k loss per synth so its possible to reach 98 with no real synths.

[Demetrios]

1% (actually 0.78%) haste is a pretty lame enhancement for a 15m price tag. Furthermore, the supply for the item is relatively high since it's a popular skillup item.

And Briault / Briault+1 is actually a pretty good whm item. But then, most people severely undervalue enmity cutting items, and don't understand that you can macro on and off your refresh armor.

people pay 50-150 million for 2% haste on most servers (speed belt vs swift belt)

raven jupon for -enmity? durrrrrrrrrrrr

No wonder I consistently outparse/outplay people with "better" gear and merits than my own; they are stupid, and make stupid gear decisions. They pay 100m+ for speed belt and panther+1 when they should rather wear life belt+ohat, use meat, and sing march instead of minuet3.

It's the same thing with Kraken Club, which is really only worth its value in the hands of a drk. Yet "everyone" wants one, because it's "elite". How about spending your money so you're more effective?

Also, raven jupon doesn't have an enhancement to barspells which according to Russta is quite real. Considering that briault is only 2-5x the cost of Raven Jupon depending on your server economy (opposed to HQ panther being 100x the cost of NQ)...

maybe you don't have an end game HNMLS, but i happen to use my highly overpriced speed belt, panther +1, dusk gloves +1, and dusk feet +1 on HNM where 1% does in fact matter


with all of that haste gear i march is about 4-5 % haste away from being useless

[aurik]

I would definitely laugh at people who blow 150k+ per synth for leather 89-100

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/5942
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/1308
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/5915
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6499

I guess it depends on your server. You wouldnt be able to skill up on blessed pumps or bison body on my server unless you planned to hit 100 in like a year or you already have alot of loot. Those 2 synths are dominated by 2 crafters.

Buffalo hides are usually quite cheap last I checked--though admittedly it's not an item I check often--you could literally toss the bison jackets away and spend less than making/desynthing panther masks. Only thing tough to get would be the buffalo horns, but if you make friends with the blms that constantly farm the king buffalos for exp and gil, I'm sure you'd have more than enough.

As for rate of skillup, I guess I'm used to clothcraft (where you actually make and sell real items throughout the 90s in order to skill up, instead of just burning gil) so I wouldn't see the problem making/selling 3-4 blessed pumps a week in addition to bison jackets. I got more than my fair share of skillups on blessed mitts/cursed mitts/blessed trousers/cursed slacks/etc.

I guess most people would rather sink 4m+ gil per craft level, and then wonder why they never seem to make back their crafting investments.

Oh..I thought on your clothcraft guide you said 94-98 dance shoes. But anyway I skilled on that stuff you just said while doing CC and made about 90m off them. I really like CC even though it seems cheap as hell to level theres alot of stuff to be made that sells fast for a nice price. Most people like to PL craft and they skip all the break even synths just to reach 100 faster. If you make your own materials dance shoes are only 100-120k loss per synth so its possible to reach 98 with no real synths.

You have to realize that guide is like...15 months old...and worked off of the guide which I wrote in like...fall of 2004. Back then, high-level stuff rarely if ever sold, much like when I wrote the first guide, nobody on my server really played ninja, so there was no market for Kaginawa and Shinobi-Tabi, so those weren't even included in the first draft.

Nowadays there's not only a ton of alternate synths (y helo ther yasha, sha'ir, hachiman, blessed, etc) but also a much higher demand for cursed zenith and end-level gears like errant body, rasetsu hands and feet, etc.

The definite win strategy for clothcraft now is to make the expensive-per-synth-but-close-to-breakeven stuff like Errant Hpl / Cursed Mitts / Blessed Legs+Hands. The target level is 99 so you can do the HQ lv94 synths, and if you play your cards right, you'll only need to feel the gil burn 97->99.

Conversely, the win strategy for leathercraft is NOT to plvl it because once you get to 95+6 there's really very little reason to go the rest of the way. So it's best to drift up slowly, at a profit or very little loss.

[DrObvious]

1% (actually 0.78%) haste is a pretty lame enhancement for a 15m price tag. Furthermore, the supply for the item is relatively high since it's a popular skillup item.

And Briault / Briault+1 is actually a pretty good whm item. But then, most people severely undervalue enmity cutting items, and don't understand that you can macro on and off your refresh armor.

people pay 50-150 million for 2% haste on most servers (speed belt vs swift belt)

raven jupon for -enmity? durrrrrrrrrrrr

Gear swapping: amazing concept.

[aurik]

1% (actually 0.78%) haste is a pretty lame enhancement for a 15m price tag. Furthermore, the supply for the item is relatively high since it's a popular skillup item.

And Briault / Briault+1 is actually a pretty good whm item. But then, most people severely undervalue enmity cutting items, and don't understand that you can macro on and off your refresh armor.

people pay 50-150 million for 2% haste on most servers (speed belt vs swift belt)

raven jupon for -enmity? durrrrrrrrrrrr

No wonder I consistently outparse/outplay people with "better" gear and merits than my own; they are stupid, and make stupid gear decisions. They pay 100m+ for speed belt and panther+1 when they should rather wear life belt+ohat, use meat, and sing march instead of minuet3.

It's the same thing with Kraken Club, which is really only worth its value in the hands of a drk. Yet "everyone" wants one, because it's "elite". How about spending your money so you're more effective?

Also, raven jupon doesn't have an enhancement to barspells which according to Russta is quite real. Considering that briault is only 2-5x the cost of Raven Jupon depending on your server economy (opposed to HQ panther being 100x the cost of NQ)...

maybe you don't have an end game HNMLS, but i happen to use my highly overpriced speed belt, panther +1, dusk gloves +1, and dusk feet +1 on HNM where 1% does in fact matter


with all of that haste gear i march is about 4-5 % haste away from being useless

You're just trying to justify your own expenditures. I could easily read this statement as saying that you are bad tank to need all that high-priced gear; after all, everyone else can kill the same shit with mediocre setups and mediocre gear. Why is it you need these whiteboxes?

Be honest with yourself. You just want to feel "more elite" than everyone else.

[Demetrios]

1% (actually 0.78%) haste is a pretty lame enhancement for a 15m price tag. Furthermore, the supply for the item is relatively high since it's a popular skillup item.

And Briault / Briault+1 is actually a pretty good whm item. But then, most people severely undervalue enmity cutting items, and don't understand that you can macro on and off your refresh armor.

people pay 50-150 million for 2% haste on most servers (speed belt vs swift belt)

raven jupon for -enmity? durrrrrrrrrrrr

Gear swapping: amazing concept.

gear swaping in a piece that has less -enmity than other bodies for the purpose of -enmity is also an amazing concept

[Demetrios]

1% (actually 0.78%) haste is a pretty lame enhancement for a 15m price tag. Furthermore, the supply for the item is relatively high since it's a popular skillup item.

And Briault / Briault+1 is actually a pretty good whm item. But then, most people severely undervalue enmity cutting items, and don't understand that you can macro on and off your refresh armor.

people pay 50-150 million for 2% haste on most servers (speed belt vs swift belt)

raven jupon for -enmity? durrrrrrrrrrrr

No wonder I consistently outparse/outplay people with "better" gear and merits than my own; they are stupid, and make stupid gear decisions. They pay 100m+ for speed belt and panther+1 when they should rather wear life belt+ohat, use meat, and sing march instead of minuet3.

It's the same thing with Kraken Club, which is really only worth its value in the hands of a drk. Yet "everyone" wants one, because it's "elite". How about spending your money so you're more effective?

Also, raven jupon doesn't have an enhancement to barspells which according to Russta is quite real. Considering that briault is only 2-5x the cost of Raven Jupon depending on your server economy (opposed to HQ panther being 100x the cost of NQ)...

maybe you don't have an end game HNMLS, but i happen to use my highly overpriced speed belt, panther +1, dusk gloves +1, and dusk feet +1 on HNM where 1% does in fact matter


with all of that haste gear i march is about 4-5 % haste away from being useless

You're just trying to justify your own expenditures. I could easily read this statement as saying that you are bad tank to need all that high-priced gear; after all, everyone else can kill the same shit with mediocre setups and mediocre gear. Why is it you need these whiteboxes?

Be honest with yourself. You just want to feel "more elite" than everyone else.

a NIN with -50% physical and -15% magic damage taken gear and 21% haste is not at all superior to any others... it's not like he'll be able to survive weapon skills like Citadel buster and antimater... err wait >.< he can

being able to cast 21% faster is also meaningless, it's not like ninja gets hate from utsusemi, hojo, kurayami, and jubaku spam... it's all from provoke

white boxes do matter in certain places, haste and -% dmg being the primary areas since there aren't many way to buff these in other gear slots

[aurik]

a NIN with -50% physical and -15% magic damage taken gear and 21% haste is not at all superior to any others... it's not like he'll be able to survive weapon skills like Citadel buster and antimater... err wait >.< he can

being able to cast 21% faster is also meaningless, it's not like ninja gets hate from utsusemi, hojo, kurayami, and subaku spam... it's all from provoke

white boxes do matter in certain places, haste and -% dmg being the primary areas since there aren't many way to buff these in other gear slots

But like...ninjas do fine without all those white boxes. Don't they? Because I know lots of ninjas that do, and do a flawless job. Are you saying you couldn't do a flawless job without white boxes? Because thats what it sounds like to me.

[Demetrios]

a NIN with -50% physical and -15% magic damage taken gear and 21% haste is not at all superior to any others... it's not like he'll be able to survive weapon skills like Citadel buster and antimater... err wait >.< he can

being able to cast 21% faster is also meaningless, it's not like ninja gets hate from utsusemi, hojo, kurayami, and subaku spam... it's all from provoke

white boxes do matter in certain places, haste and -% dmg being the primary areas since there aren't many way to buff these in other gear slots

But like...ninjas do fine without all those white boxes. Don't they? Because I know lots of ninjas that do, and do a flawless job. Are you saying you couldn't do a flawless job without white boxes? Because thats what it sounds like to me.

I haven't seen any purely NQ geared NINs on my server running around with Virtuous Saint, Wyrm Astonisher, Vrtra Vanquisher, Temenos Liberator, or Ouryu Overwhelmer, have you on yours?

[Maxxthepenguin]

I haven't seen any purely NQ geared NINs on my server running around with Virtuous Saint, Wyrm Astonisher, Vrtra Vanquisher, Temenos Liberator, or Ouryu Overwhelmer, have you on yours?

They do usually have a spike necklace...

[aurik]

a NIN with -50% physical and -15% magic damage taken gear and 21% haste is not at all superior to any others... it's not like he'll be able to survive weapon skills like Citadel buster and antimater... err wait >.< he can

being able to cast 21% faster is also meaningless, it's not like ninja gets hate from utsusemi, hojo, kurayami, and subaku spam... it's all from provoke

white boxes do matter in certain places, haste and -% dmg being the primary areas since there aren't many way to buff these in other gear slots

But like...ninjas do fine without all those white boxes. Don't they? Because I know lots of ninjas that do, and do a flawless job. Are you saying you couldn't do a flawless job without white boxes? Because thats what it sounds like to me.

I haven't seen any purely NQ geared NINs on my server running around with Virtuous Saint, Wyrm Astonisher, Vrtra Vanquisher, or Ouryu Overwhelmer, have you on yours?

I'm sure that your defense 4 Sonic Belt +1 really helped out your black mages nuke down AV from behind that wall.

And yes, I've seen some pretty accomplished "NQ" nins, who use warwolf and nq yasha / arhats instead of shelling out insane sums for dusk+1 and speed belt, and gee they seem to have the same kinds of titles you do :O

The saddest thing is that you haven't noticed yet that I'm just doing to you what you did to me: take something you said and put it in a totally irrelevant context and call it ridiculous. I guess you're just another idiot who happens to have good gear and therefore thinks he's something special.

[Demetrios]

a NIN with -50% physical and -15% magic damage taken gear and 21% haste is not at all superior to any others... it's not like he'll be able to survive weapon skills like Citadel buster and antimater... err wait >.< he can

being able to cast 21% faster is also meaningless, it's not like ninja gets hate from utsusemi, hojo, kurayami, and subaku spam... it's all from provoke

white boxes do matter in certain places, haste and -% dmg being the primary areas since there aren't many way to buff these in other gear slots

But like...ninjas do fine without all those white boxes. Don't they? Because I know lots of ninjas that do, and do a flawless job. Are you saying you couldn't do a flawless job without white boxes? Because thats what it sounds like to me.

I haven't seen any purely NQ geared NINs on my server running around with Virtuous Saint, Wyrm Astonisher, Vrtra Vanquisher, or Ouryu Overwhelmer, have you on yours?

I'm sure that your defense 4 Sonic Belt +1 really helped out your black mages nuke down AV from behind that wall.

And yes, I've seen some pretty accomplished "NQ" nins, who use warwolf and nq yasha / arhats instead of shelling out insane sums for dusk+1 and speed belt, and gee they seem to have the same kinds of titles you do :O

The saddest thing is that you haven't noticed yet that I'm just doing to you what you did to me: take something you said and put it in a totally irrelevant context and call it ridiculous. I guess you're just another idiot who happens to have good gear and therefore thinks he's something special.

1) blessed briault sucks dick
2) if you could have sold the HQ for 100 mil you would have
3) however it sucks dick so you can't
4) -% dmg gear and +% haste gear HQs are very much worth the investment
5) /feign shock, so their HQs actually sell for insane amounts, and rightly so

[Lordwafik]

If you could put a blessed briault +1 on a war's or nin's head and get +4% haste you could :/

But you CAN! Wanna buy it? Low low price!

What do you think the Walahra Turban is? Some guy just took a Blessed Briault +1, wrapped it around a WAR's head like a turban, and found it gave him haste.

Hmm. Makes me wonder if I could use a hot glue gun to attach my Warlock's Tabard to my Duelist's Tabbard. Maybe I could get my hands on a Bedazzler too...

I'd like to fuse my AF1 body into my dalmatica, then fuse my AF1 hat with my AF2 hat. Ever since I got my duelist's chapeau i've been trying to get used to the slowed down fast cast , oh well in time.

[Veli]

LOL its funny how you say +1 haste isnt worth the money but if you made a Dal -1 that only gives you a extra 5mp you would try to sell it for 300-500m. Price of items dont go by how effective they are it just goes by how hard it is to get the item.

[Koyangi]

LOL its funny how you say +1 haste isnt worth the money but if you made a Dal -1 that only gives you a extra 5mp you would try to sell it for 300-500m. Price of items dont go by how effective they are it just goes by how hard it is to get the item.

That's the problem right there, buyers look at an item and look to see if what they're getting vs the NQ is worth that difference in gil.(unless of course you have absolutley nothing else to buy AND have the gil to spend, but that is less than .01% of everyone anyway)

[Justaguy]

I haven't seen any purely NQ geared NINs on my server running around with Virtuous Saint, Wyrm Astonisher, Vrtra Vanquisher, Temenos Liberator, or Ouryu Overwhelmer, have you on yours?

They do usually have a spike necklace...

Spike Necklace is HQ

[aurik]

1) blessed briault sucks dick
2) if you could have sold the HQ for 100 mil you would have
3) however it sucks dick so you can't
4) -% dmg gear and +% haste gear HQs are very much worth the investment
5) /feign shock, so their HQs actually sell for insane amounts, and rightly so

1) blessed briault is a decent item
2) if I could have sold the HQ for 100 mil, I probably would have
3) bbriault+1 (signed no less) is fucking rare so I have no intention of selling it cheap so that it can be tossed around like a whore. if anything, I'll probably end up giving it away
4) HQ +haste gear is in no way worth the investment for merits, which is what I said in the beginning, way to take me out of context :O
5) yea want my yasha +1 hakama? selling "cheap"

[Maxxthepenguin]

I haven't seen any purely NQ geared NINs on my server running around with Virtuous Saint, Wyrm Astonisher, Vrtra Vanquisher, Temenos Liberator, or Ouryu Overwhelmer, have you on yours?

They do usually have a spike necklace...

Spike Necklace is HQ

Wooooooooooooosh

[Demetrios]

5) yea want my yasha +1 hakama? selling "cheap"

pfft, more useless hqs >_>

i'd buy 'em if they had -5% physical damage or 6% haste on them =/