Besieged @ Pandemonium

[budd]

you can't really blame people for going to kill them.
the message specifically says go intercept them lol
if you want to blame anyone blame SE for it.
in any real life war scenario you'd be rewarded for
destroying the enemy forces before they knocked down your gates lol

Yeah, don't blame people for going outside the city to kill mobs..

Cause, you know, people never get to go outside the city to kill mobs.

I lol'd.

But only because before ToAU, I hated stepping outside of town. This morning's besieged sucked. Monsters spawned and immediately died. I cried.

Hopefully, it just builds up and they attack at each level, getting more and more difficult. People need to stop killing the damn Mamool Ja, so they can attack with the Trolls, too.

[Daahan]

I like the fact that these problems are being looked at and addressed after like only a week of release. Everyone needs to quit their bitching; they're not fucking psychic they can't see the problems before they happen.

Seriously lol. Like everyone has said, they didn't expect the amount of people in Aht Urgan to be bigger than all the jeuno zones combined. This is the first time this has happened, everyone is fucking excited and wants to kills the trolls; therefore, they all go out after them.

[Qinnydar]

Bismarck being Beseiged right now.

Everyone saying Dont intercept them cuz they wanna fight in the city.

[Sylvrdragon]

Besieged over on Diabolos. Took about 2 minutes, I managed to get off 3 Dias I think before everything around me died instantly. Got 109 XP and I think like 50 IS or something lame like that. This shit needs to get WAY better. Hopefully when its only like 50 people there and the mobs are a lot harder, maybe then it will be fun and the rewards will be worth staying for.

[Norelco]

I like the fact that these problems are being looked at and addressed after like only a week of release. Everyone needs to quit their bitching; they're not fucking psychic they can't see the problems before they happen.

Seriously lol. Like everyone has said, they didn't expect the amount of people in Aht Urgan to be bigger than all the jeuno zones combined. This is the first time this has happened, everyone is fucking excited and wants to kills the trolls; therefore, they all go out after them.

Actually, they SHOULD anticipate this stuff. Do you honestly think they didn't realize that a majority of the players would go batshit for this expansion pack and flood the new zones?

[layoneil]

they should send a pack of Cerberuses to lead the charge next time.

this is a brand new thing, i don't mind waiting a few times for them to make it better.

[Daahan]

I like the fact that these problems are being looked at and addressed after like only a week of release. Everyone needs to quit their bitching; they're not fucking psychic they can't see the problems before they happen.

Seriously lol. Like everyone has said, they didn't expect the amount of people in Aht Urgan to be bigger than all the jeuno zones combined. This is the first time this has happened, everyone is fucking excited and wants to kills the trolls; therefore, they all go out after them.

Actually, they SHOULD anticipate this stuff. Do you honestly think they didn't realize that a majority of the players would go batshit for this expansion pack and flood the new zones?

Considering the way CoP went. No.

And even if they did anticipate this many people in the new zones, maybe they were unable to anticipate the correct number of beastmen that's needed to make besieged longer and more enjoyable.

[Suci]

Well if they did 2 mobs for 1 person it would be like 1000 mobs+ 500 player= lagged out and owned in the face.

Right now its just looking like there trying to get the delay time between assaults down. After that there either fix the spawn numbers or the ramp up the lvl of the mobs.

Give them time there get it right.

[Norelco]

Considering the way CoP went. No.

And even if they did anticipate this many people in the new zones, maybe they were unable to anticipate the correct number of beastmen that's needed to make besieged longer and more enjoyable.

Isn't that what a beta test is for?

SE is in an easy position as developers. They are able to not get things right the first time and perform as many updates and upgrades as they want. I'm also a developer but I'm in the position where my software needs to be right the first time around so I am definitely biased.

I'm just disappointed because this was perhaps the most important part of the expansion pack for me. I was more excited about Besieged than I was assault, the new zones, the new jobs, and everything else.

[Hawky]

Besieged just happened on Bismarck, though can't really call it Besieged. Everything was killed within a few minutes way outside of the town. Too bad no exp/is/items or anything as a bonus or so for killing them.

[Kurp]

Maybe it's just phase one of their attacks. Jesus, just let it go for awhile and see what happens. It could have been planned to be like this all along.

[Qinnydar]

Yup what Hawky said...Too Weak

I think maybe 10 monsters were killed and they retreated.

And u got 500 people all with their panties in a bunch sitting in Al Zabi

[Qinnydar]

LOL @ /servmes


another one, ffs.

[Correction]

Considering the way CoP went. No.

And even if they did anticipate this many people in the new zones, maybe they were unable to anticipate the correct number of beastmen that's needed to make besieged longer and more enjoyable.

Isn't that what a beta test is for?

SE is in an easy position as developers. They are able to not get things right the first time and perform as many updates and upgrades as they want. I'm also a developer but I'm in the position where my software needs to be right the first time around so I am definitely biased.

I'm just disappointed because this was perhaps the most important part of the expansion pack for me. I was more excited about Besieged than I was assault, the new zones, the new jobs, and everything else.

The expansion isn't even a week old. Learn some patience.

Beta testers are only so many in number. It's not like they can accurately simulate 700 human-controlled characters in the same zone, let alone predict the rates at which the enemy forces are going to be farmed in their own strongholds (sup Mamook). Beseiged is slow to start up because there are so many people killing things left and right that the Beastment just don't stand a chance.

Wait until 2 zones reach level 1 during 2am .jp time. Then you'll start seeing some interesting effects. What happens when 2 armies show up and there are only 50 people armed and ready to fight?

You gotta give shit time to mature. It's like expecting to have access to Chlevnik on a level 1 mule. Let the processes of the game work themselves out.

[Norelco]

I'm not being impatient, but I just had expectations that weren't met. There's nothing wrong with expecting certain things. Overall, I think the expansion is fan-fucking-tastic. I think it's funny that people get their panties twisted about people voicing their opinions.

[layoneil]

Isn't that what a beta test is for?

i doubt they have 500 beta testers.

Besieged is probably designed for no more than 100 defenders and it's designed for people from Lv 50-75 (reference low level limits of Assault missions).

i think the entire concept is over-ambitious. i've never seen FFXI handle the amount of people or the amount of mobs well.

i get lagged to hell and back in Dynamis with 40 people and maybe 20 mobs that would give that group trouble.

a proper Besiege situation where Lv 50-75 players can participate would have mean the attacking force outnumber the defending force.

eventually, they'll probably have to concede that Besiege is only for Lv 70+ players and just make all the mobs Lv 75 and higher.

your expectations were unrealistic given SE's previous track record, that's what people are trying to say.

[Correction]

I'm not being impatient, but I just had expectations that weren't met. There's nothing wrong with expecting certain things. Overall, I think the expansion is fan-fucking-tastic. I think it's funny that people get their panties twisted about people voicing their opinions.

Your expectations are ridiculous is what I'm pointing out. If Beseiged were this huge thing to wipe out half the NPCs in town during the first week of release, sure it might be exciting but it would probably have had an overall detrimental effect on most of the players in the area. I imagine SE weighed the option of rushing people into Beseiged versus allowing them time to enjoy the other content first (Assault, new jobs, quests, exploration) and decided Beseiged could wait.

'I want beseiged NOWZ' is a fine thing to ask for but you can't complain later when you find out what it's going to cost you.

[Suci]

bring in the twinkling trents!!!!!

[Vobent]

Trolls moving on Caitsith. Everyones telling people to stay in town. Hopefully they listen.

[Norelco]

Your expectations are ridiculous.

I don't think they are ridiculous or unrealistic given what SE has claimed it would be. If it takes time for SE to perfect it then I'm all for it.