Obtained: Flask of Walahra Water

[Khamsin]

So...it would be reasonable for SE to make gear to completely downgrade the RoZ expansion to nothing more than Weapons camps for people who, god forbid, need CP for an item.

Nidhogg is here to stay. BST and WAR get Osode. DRK gets Homam Corraza. PLD can wear AF2. SMN got Yin-Yang Robe. BLM has AF2 Boots, Rostrum Pumps, Yagit Crackows. AF1+1 Hands are in many cases interesting compared against Adaman Mufflers and Gigas-style Bracelets.

Camp what you want. Get what you want. But SE would be silly, for their pocketbooks, to destroy RoZ completely.

You're right. They might lose those few JP left out there that owned pre-Zilart FFXI and have not yet bought the expansion.

[BRP]

FFXI doesn't do armor like WoW does it. You won't get outright better pieces so easily. If anything, they need to fix stuff so less useful stats(and jobs, lawl) become more useful. Asking them to abandon several armor sets is laughable.

[Demetrios]

My guess is 10,000 bronze coins to the NPC and you'll get Walahra Turban =o

Why else would he keep track of how many you've traded past 100?

[Khamsin]

FFXI doesn't do armor like WoW does it. You won't get outright better pieces so easily. If anything, they need to fix stuff so less useful stats(and jobs, lawl) become more useful. Asking them to abandon several armor sets is laughable.

There's only so far they can go with "different armor for different occasions". Especially with all their whining about how they can't give us more inventory space due to "PS2 limitations". Unless they plan on adding a new form of storage with every expansion, that is. I can't wait to have Storage, Mog Locker, Mog Warehouse, Mog Cupboard, Mog Pantry, Mog Archive, and Mog Dry Cleaning (with claim stubs). All accessible from mutually exclusive places...

Think of what you did from 1-50, nearly every piece of armor along the way was replaced by something better later. After 50, certain things become fixed in your equipment (e.g. staves, moldy earring, swift belt, speed belt), and after 59 (scorp harness, haubergeon, etc.) you have even more equipment now fixed. By the time you hit 75, there's very few things left that are better than what you have. And once you have them, that's it. The only things left to get are gear for situational use, which is all SE has been adding since RoZ.

If you had no problem upgrading general use gear all the time from 1-50, what's so bad about introducing new general use gear that is an upgrade from the current best general use gear? Leather -> Scale, or Armada Hauberk -> something better than Armada Hauberk, what's the difference?*

I don't want more situational gear, I have so much of it already for my 3 jobs that I'm all but unwilling to level a 4th job because I know I'd end up gimping it or my current jobs because I'd have no room for all the situational shit I could have if I focused on the 3 I have now... if that made any sense.

*Yes, yes, I know. It's a hyperbole.

[BRP]

Because people won't do one part of the game anymore. SE doesn't want that.

[Wizerd]

Because people won't do one part of the game anymore. SE doesn't want that.

They added AF+1, why not add sky set +1?

Kirin's Osode +1, 2 more to every stat or something, and would still require osode to get it. That would be a worthy upgrade, as opposed to the AF+1 shit they implemented...

[Maxxthepenguin]

Because people won't do one part of the game anymore. SE doesn't want that.

They added AF+1, why not add sky set +1?

Kirin's Osode +1, 2 more to every stat or something, and would still require osode to get it. That would be a worthy upgrade, as opposed to the AF+1 shit they implemented...

AF+1 is great gear, you're thinking AF2+1

[aurik]

Because people won't do one part of the game anymore. SE doesn't want that.

They added AF+1, why not add sky set +1?

Kirin's Osode +1, 2 more to every stat or something, and would still require osode to get it. That would be a worthy upgrade, as opposed to the AF+1 shit they implemented...

Most AF+1 is not that great gear, but AF2+1 is complete trash

Fixed.

[Wizerd]

Because people won't do one part of the game anymore. SE doesn't want that.

They added AF+1, why not add sky set +1?

Kirin's Osode +1, 2 more to every stat or something, and would still require osode to get it. That would be a worthy upgrade, as opposed to the AF+1 shit they implemented...

AF+1 is great gear, you're thinking AF2+1

Well, I meant that as both sets. There are about 3 pieces of good AF1+1 among all jobs...

[Maxxthepenguin]

Because people won't do one part of the game anymore. SE doesn't want that.

They added AF+1, why not add sky set +1?

Kirin's Osode +1, 2 more to every stat or something, and would still require osode to get it. That would be a worthy upgrade, as opposed to the AF+1 shit they implemented...

AF+1 is great gear, you're thinking AF2+1

Well, I meant that as both sets. There are about 3 pieces of good AF1+1 among all jobs...

I can name 2 pieces that are each one of the bestt of their slot for DRK alone (head and hands.) Many of the other pieces have good uses as well (like the feet are the highest STR+ that doesnt have a huge downside. There are numerous others for different jobs. I'd say the only job that actually got shafted was WAR, but its not like they needed it.

[Demetrios]

Because people won't do one part of the game anymore. SE doesn't want that.

They added AF+1, why not add sky set +1?

Kirin's Osode +1, 2 more to every stat or something, and would still require osode to get it. That would be a worthy upgrade, as opposed to the AF+1 shit they implemented...

AF+1 is great gear, you're thinking AF2+1

Well, I meant that as both sets. There are about 3 pieces of good AF1+1 among all jobs...

RDM hat, RDM body, MNK legs, MNK hat, NIN feet, NIN hands, RNG hands, NIN body (ballista =P), BLM hat, BLM hands, THF piece that enhances trick or w/e, WHM hands, PLD body (if you can't bot well), PLD feet, etc all SUCKKKKKKKKKKKK LET"S ALL GO PLAY WOW

[wartortle]

I can name 2 pieces that are each one of the bestt of their slot for DRK alone (head and hands.) Many of the other pieces have good uses as well (like the feet are the highest STR+ that doesnt have a huge downside. There are numerous others for different jobs. I'd say the only job that actually got shafted was WAR, but its not like they needed it.

Hecatomb Cap
Adaman Mufflers

AF1+1 DRK Hands are weaponskill macro, at best.

[netz]

It would be fair to say that the AF+1 hat is also a souleater WS macro item, too, and that hecatomb cap isn't always better as a result.

[wartortle]

It would be fair to say that the AF+1 hat is also a souleater WS macro item, too, and that hecatomb cap isn't always better as a result.

Unless someone has shown you can get more Souleater damage out of the AF1+1 instead of the AF1...I think you can get the same effect, and use the Hecatomb Cap, for free. =/

[Maxxthepenguin]

I can name 2 pieces that are each one of the bestt of their slot for DRK alone (head and hands.) Many of the other pieces have good uses as well (like the feet are the highest STR+ that doesnt have a huge downside. There are numerous others for different jobs. I'd say the only job that actually got shafted was WAR, but its not like they needed it.

Hecatomb Cap
Adaman Mufflers

AF1+1 DRK Hands are weaponskill macro, at best.

Heca cap is slow+9%. I use my AF+1 helm outside of just WSes, and even for WSes 2% bonus souleater will do more extra than 4 STR in my experiences. Taking an extra inventory slot for something of that limited use when you can use the AF+1 for almost everything is, IMO, rediculous. Its a much better all around piece anyways, taking the place of AF Head AND a STR helm.
Af+1 hands I use fulltime because A) DRK NOT ALLOWED IN HNMLS WWWW B) It is more ACC than those and 6 STR is arguably better than 10 Atk C) A whole extra damage on weapon bash. Woot.

[wartortle]

Arguing that the Slow% makes hecatomb bad is so 2004.

[netz]

It would be fair to say that the AF+1 hat is also a souleater WS macro item, too, and that hecatomb cap isn't always better as a result.

Unless someone has shown you can get more Souleater damage out of the AF1+1 instead of the AF1...I think you can get the same effect, and use the Hecatomb Cap, for free. =/

I was thinking just the 3 extra str but I guess that isn't going to produce anything spectacular compared to the epeen boost already given by souleater.

[DrObvious]

Because people won't do one part of the game anymore. SE doesn't want that.

How many people would stop paying their monthly fee if SE removed the Kings from the game? Nobody plays this game just for the Kings. If they do, then once they get the item they're going to quit anyway because they no longer have any goals. Everyone else will continue playing the game and find something else to do.

SE doesn't care whether we play this game 100 hours a month or 1 minute a month. They still get our subscription fee. Technically they save money on bandwidth if we play less lol.

[Soul Side]

My guess is 10,000 bronze coins to the NPC and you'll get Walahra Turban =o

Why else would he keep track of how many you've traded past 100?

this sounds most likely

[Koga]

My guess is 10,000 bronze coins to the NPC and you'll get Walahra Turban =o

Why else would he keep track of how many you've traded past 100?

this sounds most likely

Just got myself a water.. Wishing I would have read this thread first seeing as to what it does.. Seeing as how I bought 99 out of the 100 pieces.

Annnyyyways I'll keep it Just in case and someone else who has lots of CP go trade him 10k coins!