Tiamat...

[Belkin]

You can honestly say you believe there are 6-10 people behind that rock? Trust me, we wouldnt lie about them wiping. There we NO people behind that rock, there were NO unweakened people in the area, there was NO way they were going to hold it with 2 weakened people.

In conclusion, sure they might have had two weakened people to claim it, but there was no way in hell you were holding it with what they had. If it helps you sleep better at night thinking you would have held on and eventually recovered, go for it. It didnt happen that way. I claimed it after about 10 of your LS members died in a row, it went unclaimed in the air, dropped to the ground, and walked around for a good 5 seconds without aggro to anybody. Life is unfair.

[Belkin]

And in the picture, there was Rockhopper and Nave also, they were just a little to the left and not loaded on the screen. We faught on Nave's body for like the first 10% of the fight.

[aurik]

You can honestly say you believe there are 6-10 people behind that rock? Trust me, we wouldnt lie about them wiping. There we NO people behind that rock, there were NO unweakened people in the area, there was NO way they were going to hold it with 2 weakened people.

In conclusion, sure they might have had two weakened people to claim it, but there was no way in hell you were holding it with what they had. If it helps you sleep better at night thinking you would have held on and eventually recovered, go for it. It didnt happen that way. I claimed it after about 10 of your LS members died in a row, it went unclaimed in the air, dropped to the ground, and walked around for a good 5 seconds without aggro to anybody. Life is unfair.

Yet you didn't have the respect and fairness to let them wipe. You're SO SURE that they would have wiped...but you stole it anyway.

[sephir]

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If you were so sure they were going to wipe, why didn't you just wait until they did?

Im sorry but this is true.

[Belkin]

Read what I said again.

I claimed it after about 10 of your LS members died in a row, it went unclaimed in the air, dropped to the ground, and walked around for a good 5 seconds without aggro to anybody.

We go up to claim it after it isnt aggro'd to anybody

Then Zigma comes running in, provokes it as I am casting Flash. It isn't claimed to either of us. I shield bash, get claim, we go from there.

[aurik]

So you're saying he beat you to the claim and you took it anyway?

[Gregorio]

You can honestly say you believe there are 6-10 people behind that rock? Trust me, we wouldnt lie about them wiping. There we NO people behind that rock, there were NO unweakened people in the area, there was NO way they were going to hold it with 2 weakened people.

In conclusion, sure they might have had two weakened people to claim it, but there was no way in hell you were holding it with what they had. If it helps you sleep better at night thinking you would have held on and eventually recovered, go for it. It didnt happen that way. I claimed it after about 10 of your LS members died in a row, it went unclaimed in the air, dropped to the ground, and walked around for a good 5 seconds without aggro to anybody. Life is unfair.

Yet you didn't have the respect and fairness to let them wipe. You're SO SURE that they would have wiped...but you stole it anyway.

I guess if they didn't steal it, then the kill just wouldn't be in true Kinzuru fashion. Playing fair is so overrated.

[Belkin]

So i'm saying, the new claim system turned out in our favor this time. Dont blame me, blame SE.

[Belkin]

Well it certainly wasn't Kazkou style, we didn't flail it 3 times before we won.

[aurik]

So i'm saying, the new claim system turned out in our favor this time. Dont blame me, blame SE.

I'm looking at Zigma's screenshot now.

Belkin starts casting Flash.
Belkin's casting was interrupted<<--------
Zigma uses Provoke.


So like...if it stayed yellow why was your casting interrupted?

[Gregorio]

Well it certainly wasn't Kazkou style, we didn't flail it 3 times before we won.

Oh you guys killed all the wyrms on your first try? I wasn't aware of that.

[Belkin]

Because I was running?

[Rexeves]

I think wining after 3 flails is about 100x better than stealing claim. Or losing claim then start to mpk.

[aurik]

So now you're saying that Zigma provoked it BEFORE you started casting flash, yet you flashed and shield bashed it when it went yellow anyway?

[Belkin]

Your missing the point. IT NEVER WENT CLAIMED TO ZIGMA. Stayed yellow even after provoke due to the new claiming system. Do you understand?

[aurik]

Well you keep changing your story. Pick a version of events and stick with it please.

[Rexeves]

Your missing the point. IT NEVER WENT CLAIMED TO ZIGMA. Stayed yellow even after provoke due to the new claiming system. Do you understand?

So, he was up, he voked because they hadnt wiped yet, THEN you flashed and shield bashed. Sounds like stealing to me

[Belkin]

Its been the same story throughout the whole thread, maybe if you comphrended some of the things I told you without me having to repeat it 3-4 times you'd know that.

[Belkin]

Must I make a timeline.


-Zigma claims Tiamat with 3 people: Masterstat, Kuragarii and himself
-Masterstat dies after sleeping, Kuragarii sleeps
-More TTF arrive, attempt to sleep/hold
-Kinzuru arrives a few seconds later, watches TTF attempt to hold with Sleep1 and Sleep2 without element seal, doesn't work
-Tiamat flies as soon as Kuragarii chainspells, thus making all her sleep useless and making her resort to stoneskin/blink spam. Kuragarii holds Tiamat with Zigma for a brief period
-Tiamat kills Kuragarii, Nave, Zigma, Azjol and Rockhopper
-Various TTF members reraise, including Zigma, Kuragarii and Rockhopper
-Parklife, Llhuys and some WHM arrive if I remember correctly
-After holding it for another few minutes, Parklife dies -- Rockhopper, Llhuys and WHM die after Parklife dies.
-Zigma/Kuragarii resting away from everybody
- Tiamat goes unclaimed and unaggro'd to anybody here
-I run up, along with other LS members to claim it
-Zigma, seeing Parklife dead, Tiamat unclaimed and unaggro'd, decides to go try to claim it again.
-I cast Flash, but is interrupted because I was running
-Zigma uses provoke, doesnt get claim, Tiamat still yellow
-Belkin uses Flash, Belkin uses Shield bash
-Belkin gets claim.

[Gregorio]

Well it certainly wasn't Kazkou style, we didn't flail it 3 times before we won.

Oh you guys killed all the wyrms on your first try? I wasn't aware of that.

Oh yeah, I forgot, we only flailed Jormy once in like the past 8 months...and that was at the 1%. And everyone knows Kinzuru can't talk trash on other LSs wiping at 1%. Any other time we flailed was way long before any other NA LA gave Jormy a serious attempt (minus BG).