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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Claw Cyclone is physical, 1000 needles is magical therefore you can't stack SATA with it. Same goes with spirits within and other magic damage abilities.
    They are arguing that 1000 Needles is Physical Though

    Quote Originally Posted by Nny

    And you want to play that card?

    1) When using +ACC gear, sword, fighting IT mobs that are known to be the most evasive mobs in the game, he hit the mob 2 out of 7 times-.

    2) Using an elemental staff, with +magic ACC up, fighting VT mobs that are REALLY low evasive, he didn't hit them once out of 5 times.
    Torama are beasts, 1000 Needles is Plant - Magical, or whatever.. if that has anything to do with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponut
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelan
    If it's a physical attack, couldnt you just test it with Sneak Attack? If I understand it right, resisted physical spells are misses, so SA + Physical spell should never get resisted. If that's right, then a resisted SA Needles would make it magical
    I was being sarcastic towards the people claiming SE got the description wrong, I am bad at it.

    I am pretty sure Sneak Attack doesn't stack with AoE
    Stacks with claw cyclone
    Claw Cyclone is physical, 1000 needles is magical therefore you can't stack SATA with it. Same goes with spirits within and other magic damage abilities.
    I was simply responding to the SA doesnt stack with AoE with a counterproof, of course it doesnt stack with 1k needles.

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    Plants intimidate beast

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    I am pretty sure Sneak Attack doesn't stack with AoE
    Claw Cyclone [AoE cone] and Wild Oats [Ranged Attack] both stack with Sneak Attack.

    SA Oats is funny, It makes me wish I could SA Sidewinder. From what I've seen: SE seems to just have put a stamp on spells that are Physical and say "Sneak Attackable"
    So yeah, SA Blowfish [1kNeedle] would be the best way to test if it's Physical or Magical.


    Also I wanted to know, to any BST Here. Do mobs that are Strong to or Weak to other mobs, Does that affect their Accuracy, or just their damage? I've been under the impression that it only affected damage and intimidations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponut
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelan
    If it's a physical attack, couldnt you just test it with Sneak Attack? If I understand it right, resisted physical spells are misses, so SA + Physical spell should never get resisted. If that's right, then a resisted SA Needles would make it magical
    I was being sarcastic towards the people claiming SE got the description wrong, I am bad at it.

    I am pretty sure Sneak Attack doesn't stack with AoE
    Stacks with claw cyclone
    Claw Cyclone is physical, 1000 needles is magical therefore you can't stack SATA with it. Same goes with spirits within and other magic damage abilities.
    SATA works with Spirit Taker.

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    Spirit Taker is physical damage though, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponut

    Torama are beasts, 1000 Needles is Plant - Magical, or whatever.. if that has anything to do with it
    Meaning it should be strong vs. toramas. Thats why its so disappointing!

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    When playing bst i noticed that you get better accuracy and damage with a stronger pet (i.e higher level). a too weak pet will do very little with such little accuracy.

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    Spirit Taker isn't elemental damage last I checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    Quote Originally Posted by Razz
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuponut
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelan
    If it's a physical attack, couldnt you just test it with Sneak Attack? If I understand it right, resisted physical spells are misses, so SA + Physical spell should never get resisted. If that's right, then a resisted SA Needles would make it magical
    I was being sarcastic towards the people claiming SE got the description wrong, I am bad at it.

    I am pretty sure Sneak Attack doesn't stack with AoE
    Stacks with claw cyclone
    Claw Cyclone is physical, 1000 needles is magical therefore you can't stack SATA with it. Same goes with spirits within and other magic damage abilities.
    SATA works with Spirit Taker.
    Spirit Taker is physical

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    My mistake I was thinking magical as in no sc properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    My mistake I was thinking magical as in no sc properties.
    Magical Wses tend to have SC properties (see: Red Lotus Blade). Only Spirit Taker and Spirits Within have no SC properties AFAIK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin
    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    My mistake I was thinking magical as in no sc properties.
    Magical Wses tend to have SC properties (see: Red Lotus Blade). Only Spirit Taker and Spirits Within have no SC properties AFAIK.
    Moonlight and that other one.
    Energy steal/drain.

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    It says it's magic in the damn picture, why are people still arguing about this seriously....

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    Quote Originally Posted by macbain24
    It says it's magic in the damn picture, why are people still arguing about this seriously....
    PHOTOSHOPPED - CONTINUE FLAMES LOL

    EDIT: Not until we get more people at 62+ BLU will we find out more info, I seriously believe Bulk is more worried about hitting 75 BLU, rather than testing out all possible theories.

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    you must be psychic even tho spending hours upon hours testing every stat possible, begging a bard to do different etudes and song combos while i cast a spell that has 2 min recast and takes 90% of my mana sounds like a ball i think ill wait a week til there a few hundred ppl who can help do this

    8 stat etudes
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    sorry Bulk, wasn't really meant as a shot in the arm.

    Was being realistic, lol

    Nny or whomever has done some extensive testing, and layed it out in a readable format.

    I am sure you have tried and tested alot of different combinations Bulk, but you haven't been able to transform any of that into some readable details. NOt saying you fail, or suck shit by any means, just from the fact you're almost 70 bluemage allready sort of says you have different priorities than merely testing the job lol.

    Aside from a couple screenshots of your blu magic skill, and 1000 needles being plantoid - magical, there hasn't been a whole lot of info laid out in detail. Thats what I meant, sorry.

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    I blame him being a galka mage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macbain24
    It says it's magic in the damn picture, why are people still arguing about this seriously....
    Assassin Culotte said Enmity+2 in the damn picture, but we all know how valid that was...

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    Enmity is a hoax in general.

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