1000 NEEDLESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

[Lordwafik]

This is why people getting blue up so fast suck, you dont take time to learn your damn job.

Waa

You can go through oh so many crabs before the task becomes mundane, he is new to the job, AS IS EVERYONE WHO PICKED UP THE EXPANSION. You cant tell him to slow down to learn his job, since there arent any 75 BLU's to look up to and ask for advice, everyone is new to this and are learning.

[worldbfree]

It looks like someone needs to cap BLU magic?

Either that, or the spell will suck horribly until SE adds in some +BLU magic skill or something related.

+Magic Accuracy gear. It can use Homam head and Nashira stuff and this would be nice if a BLU could get its hands on it.

Physical blue magic's accuracy is based on the accuracy of the blue mage's main weapon, and as I recall from earlier discussion, the effects of +Magic Accuracy are meager at best. Considering the fact that Accuracy is available in much larger quantities than Magic Accuracy (and that we don't even know if Magic Accuracy affects physical blue magic spells), I would think that going for an Accuracy build would be much more worthwhile.

Edit: (@ Tahngarthor) Toramas are Beasts and 1k needles is a Plantoid type spell, so Toramas should in fact be weak to this spell since Plantoids > Beasts.

There is no reason to believe Magic Accuracy DOES NOT affect Blue Magic (physical/magical). It affects every other offensive magic spell in the game why should blue be any different. In the same way +2 Magic Accuracy is like adding approx. +4 INT and +4 MND at the same time it may add +4DEX +4INT respectively for Blue as far as accuracy is concerned

A good test would be if someone subbed /BLM at later levels and tried Elemental Seal. Something that I haven't seen yet.

[Zalius]

3 Blue 70's on siren, cor 70, and a pup 70...

Their static is blue x3, cor pup rdm, with puppetmasters damage being terrible. They were in bibiki bay chaining catobles with /nin and vermies on, Magic attack along with regular attack gear, with vorpals doing around 5-800 each time, with normal melee attacks doing around 40-70. They spam sickle slash and frenetic rip only pretty much, and were killing with 5; the third blue had apparently gone to sleep and the let him leech. The two of them never got hit though.

Cor was doing about 50-100 per shot, slugs doing 300-1k.
PUP was doing about 10-20 damage per h2h hit, with Cocoa hitting for about 50-100 generally, WS's usually did under 200, with neither of them being incredibly accurate to say the least.

This was a jp group from priceless (JP ballista winners).

[Demetrios]

Does physical blue magic stack with double attack?

[Seebo]

What I meant wizerd is if you take the time to learn the mechanics of your job, and what makes each spell work (like for example, by the time a blm is lvl 60, he understands INT helps with his black magic, so when he gets resisted he knows why.)

lolelementalskill

[Razz]

^Acc gear, Sushi, madrigal etc also influence your "main hand weapons accuracy" so they would in turn effect your physical Blue magic too. Theres a post on this in the other topic about BLU, went from 20% to 92% acc on Foot kick by increasing acc.

Could always sub THF instead of NIN to get a garuntee'd land also.. seems 95% of BLU past 30 are subbing NIN and I can't possibly see why unless they are spamming magic like the retarded newb BLM do in Valk/Qufim

Do you even know why BLUs sub nin? No? Didn't think so.

I spam BLU magic like a nub BLM in valk/qufim except I end the fight with full mp and outparse any other DD in the PT

[shihei]

What I meant wizerd is if you take the time to learn the mechanics of your job, and what makes each spell work (like for example, by the time a blm is lvl 60, he understands INT helps with his black magic, so when he gets resisted he knows why.)

lolelementalskill

thats what i was thinking and i'm not even a blm lol
edit: typing fast and clean is HARD for me

[Rehont]

This is why people getting blue up so fast suck, you dont take time to learn your damn job.

Waa

You can go through oh so many crabs before the task becomes mundane, he is new to the job, AS IS EVERYONE WHO PICKED UP THE EXPANSION. You cant tell him to slow down to learn his job, since there arent any 75 BLU's to look up to and ask for advice, everyone is new to this and are learning.

I understand that, and my arguement would be different for say, a PLD or a WAR who after 10 lvls go "Ok I am a tank, I take damage. Now I need to get my stuff together to lower my damage taken" or something like that. BLU has spells they need to learn every 3-4 lvls, and they need blue magic capped to be able to deal decent damage. How are you gonna accomplish that by rushing to 75 in a week? The BLU job is so complex (like job traits you get depending on what spells you set and such), that IMO this isnt a job to rush through

[Wizerd]

This is why people getting blue up so fast suck, you dont take time to learn your damn job.

Waa

You can go through oh so many crabs before the task becomes mundane, he is new to the job, AS IS EVERYONE WHO PICKED UP THE EXPANSION. You cant tell him to slow down to learn his job, since there arent any 75 BLU's to look up to and ask for advice, everyone is new to this and are learning.

I understand that, and my arguement would be different for say, a PLD or a WAR who after 10 lvls go "Ok I am a tank, I take damage. Now I need to get my stuff together to lower my damage taken" or something like that. BLU has spells they need to learn every 3-4 lvls, and they need blue magic capped to be able to deal decent damage. How are you gonna accomplish that by rushing to 75 in a week? The BLU job is so complex (like job traits you get depending on what spells you set and such), that IMO this isnt a job to rush through

By, uh, exping on more than just crabs? He already said he caps the skill quickly each level.

[Ollieyk]

He's talking about learning spells, not capping his magic skill >_>

[Razz]

The only timesink involved with BLU is taking time out away from EXP to learn the abilities. Having a PL/friend to heal you really helps.

[Lyramion]

hmmm..... BLU/RNG for ACC traits anyone?

[Dezzimal]

hmmm..... BLU/RNG for ACC traits anyone?

BLU/DRG you mean

[Elemmire]

How does somebody get lvl 62 blu when the expansion came out 12 days ago is a better question

people have no lives?

[Lyramion]

hmmm..... BLU/RNG for ACC traits anyone?

BLU/DRG you mean

DRG has 1 Acc trait as 75 sub, RNG 2

[Wizerd]

He's talking about learning spells, not capping his magic skill >_>

I was addressing both, this being the learning spells portion:

By, uh, exping on more than just crabs?

[Dezzimal]

hmmm..... BLU/RNG for ACC traits anyone?

BLU/DRG you mean

DRG has 1 Acc trait as 75 sub, RNG 2

Lol I thought those were ranged accuracy traits, but I guess not after looking at the list. looks like I get to level RNG now =(

[Tahngarthor]

That pup must have had shitty gear then.

And it will get better when ppl get either their af (if its useful) or the Assault set PUP can use with all the +acc and shit.

[Lylie]

blah blah blah u guys sure do attack alot, we ended pt right after this and my sushi had wore off, my COR buddy was usin Pcharm to help his slugs. plus i wear SH for acc just swapped cloak in after the spell cast because it took 90% of my mana pool for this spell. blue magic was capped at 61 and it will be capped in like 3k xp its seriously not that hard. (sure i could have waited for perfect testing conditions but our party was ending for the night and i was too excited to wait sue me!!!!!!)

as for the people flaming me for my level? are you just used to parties who wipe every hour or 2 and stuggle for 2k/hr in between those wipes? xp in ffxi is NOT THAT HARRRRRRRRRRRD i dont konw why you make it out to be. only reason it takes time for most people is because they lack enough motivation to make their own pts and would rather get stuck in whatever crap ass setup they get invited to first then make a good pt o_O

TAKING LONGER TO ACCOMPLISH A GOAL DOES NOT EQUAL MORE ENJOYMENT

Aht Urghan was available only 10 days ago. Getting Lv.62 with a job in 10 days has nothing to be proud of. Sure, GJ, you are the higher BLU of your server (and probably of all servers).

I don't know about you, but I do run 1 hour a day, work, and play this. I do EXP and merit some jobs, like everyone, and Im happy to get a 5'000 exp/h PT and some burn PT, then go have fun with some friends, do events, chat, etc. I consider myself happy if I can level a subjob in one or two weeks.

But Lv.62 in only 1 week-ish... Wow... Go outside for a couple hours, see the sunlight, and take a good and long breath of pure air, it is great :D

[Zalius]

That pup must have had shitty gear then.

And it will get better when ppl get either their af (if its useful) or the Assault set PUP can use with all the +acc and shit.

you dont know priceless ;x the blues were exping with d.rings =/