Walahra Turban

[aurik]

BTW rajas in xp is fucking gimp.

Now THAT I need some elaboration on...

Sniper Ring +1 please. 5 accuracy > 5 str.

But is +7 (assuming you meant that) Acc > STR+5 + DEX+5(and thus acc+2.5) + 5% TP gain bonus? I wouldn't call that gimp at all.

OK, how often do you actually use the 5% TP gain bonus? I know as a mnk it's more often than not that I'm sitting on TP for one reason or another.

So yes...7 acc > str +5 acc +2.5 + occasionally able to WS one round earlier.

[Alleya]

Anyone who doubts the power of haste has never run a parser in their lives.

I use meat everywhere, including ullikumi, because I have fucking capped hand-to-hand merits and don't need accuracy gear, period. I wear my togi mainly for the atk, and until today I used my shura kabuto (+1) for melee (using optical hat over it is just plain stupid). Adding the haste from turban took me from solid second place to keeping on par with a ridill+adaman hauberk+merits warrior on the parser in a burn party, with ninja sub. Argue with that.

[Denchi]

/agrees with Alleya

[Ryko]

Anyone who doubts the power of haste has never run a parser in their lives.

I use meat everywhere, including ullikumi, because I have fucking capped hand-to-hand merits and don't need accuracy gear, period. I wear my togi mainly for the atk, and until today I used my shura kabuto (+1) for melee (using optical hat over it is just plain stupid). Adding the haste from turban took me from solid second place to keeping on par with a ridill+adaman hauberk+merits warrior on the parser in a burn party, with ninja sub. Argue with that.

Considering your gear, your merits, and (my) personal experience, you're full of shit or your warrior was dead at the keyboard. How's that?

[Correction]

Every fucking topic turns into a Meat vs. Sushi, STR/ATK vs ACC, my parse is better therefore my penis is ENORMOUS pissfest.

Thanks for the useful info on turban--*button mash ZOMG DRAMA*. Welcome to the BG Forums!

[Janice]

Every fucking topic turns into a Meat vs. Sushi, STR/ATK vs ACC, my parse is better therefore my penis is ENORMOUS pissfest.

Thanks for the useful info on turban--*button mash ZOMG DRAMA*. Welcome to the BG Forums!

Time to turn this into e-peen xp chain threat?

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8...01ffgfg3xn.jpg

[Wizerd]

Every fucking topic turns into a Meat vs. Sushi, STR/ATK vs ACC, my parse is better therefore my penis is ENORMOUS pissfest.

Thanks for the useful info on turban--*button mash ZOMG DRAMA*. Welcome to the BG Forums!

Time to turn this into e-peen xp chain threat?

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8...01ffgfg3xn.jpg

225 is weak exp, go kill an IT Mamool Ja for 340!

Considering your gear, your merits, and (my) personal experience, you're full of shit or your warrior was dead at the keyboard. How's that?

Mmm, I've run parses in Kuftal (used to do my higher exp chains there because decos were always full) with MNK/NIN kicking Ridill WAR's ass in damage at the end. It has a lot to do with who engages first, who has autotarget on, etc. If you know when to switch off and let the other melees finish the last 2-3%, you can get huge parse numbers without being the strongest in the party. How do you think I get top parse in nearly every party I make on NIN?

[Ryko]

Preaching to the choir bro, but that more lends to the warrior being braindead (or I guess you could say the monk being quick on their toes, I guess it's how you interpret it) than... that setup outDPSing it.


On another note: FUCK the guy on top of the parser DC'd, chain time of death: #328

[Wizerd]

Preaching to the choir bro, but that more lends to the warrior being braindead (or I guess you could say the monk being quick on their toes, I guess it's how you interpret it) than... that setup outDPSing it.


On another note: FUCK the guy on top of the parser DC'd, chain time of death: #328

My bards need to learn how to pull in Bhaflau Thickets so I can get those chain numbers. 16.5k/hr not good enough.

PS: What the fuck am I gonna do with 4 flasks of Walahra Water? And the 5 to come for every 100 after this.

[decidence]

Panther Mask +1 down to 6,000,000 on Quetz

[Verix]

PS: What the fuck am I gonna do with 4 flasks of Walahra Water? And the 5 to come for every 100 after this.

I tested the HP/MP recovery with a few (seems to be roughly 5%ish), then threw the other 4-5 in locker.

Figured they're so remarkably useless maybe they have some other purpose we don't know yet.

[Brennon]

Edit: if you want a really good example, check the parse I posted with Brennon using Spharai and me using destroyers. Despite having a wayyyyy higher dmg-per-fist, I nearly matched her (1.5% lower or something) because I had a ton more combat rounds. Melee hose FTW.

Your kick attack merit advantage played a part as well.

As for this turban, i'm a little torn. In KRT i'd say that i'd maybe switch to this piece full time. Outside, I'm not so sure. There's no way in hell I'd even switch to sushi, but my hit rate is a little lowish at some places outside of KRT. example: i partied at mamool ja staging point the other day and had a roughly 72% hit rate. That's a little bit too low for my taste, so I'd stick with the ACC headgears, hell i'd switch even more acc than i was already using in my setup.

[deakka]

That or kill Jailer of Faith some more brennon lol j/k

[freja]

Edit: if you want a really good example, check the parse I posted with Brennon using Spharai and me using destroyers. Despite having a wayyyyy higher dmg-per-fist, I nearly matched her (1.5% lower or something) because I had a ton more combat rounds. Melee hose FTW.

Your kick attack merit advantage played a part as well.

As for this turban, i'm a little torn. In KRT i'd say that i'd maybe switch to this piece full time. Outside, I'm not so sure. There's no way in hell I'd even switch to sushi, but my hit rate is a little lowish at some places outside of KRT. example: i partied at mamool ja staging point the other day and had a roughly 72% hit rate. That's a little bit too low for my taste, so I'd stick with the ACC headgears, hell i'd switch even more acc than i was already using in my setup.

There's a reason you parse kinda low in Mamool Ja Staging point area, its cause the stupid puks have that flash move that incraeses your miss rate by a lot. I parse around 73-76% there too but I don't take it too much into consideration, it sure feels like I hit a lot more.

However, other places I DO feel a difference when I'm kinda low on accuracy. That's what I'm torn about when it comes to the turban.

On the subject of WAR/NIN with Adaman + Ridill vs. MNK/NINs, I've outparsed them and I've been outparsed before. And it's got nothing to do with the warrior being braindead, or me being on my toes. MNK/NINs can pull out sick damage, and so can WAR/NINs, is it that insulting to think that a top-notch equipped MNK/NIN can keep up with a top-notch equipped WAR/NIN?

[Elcura]

Seems like a decent piece for MNKs, situations I'D use it in are:

I'm eating Sushi (HNMs/Sea/RediculousEvasion/ForgotToBringMeat)
Solo or /NIN (Utsu Macro/Fun)
A few PTs (KRT, DecoWeapons etc w/Focus)

I could see this being a great TP piece, I have 23% natural haste, so with this I'll have 28%, if I eat a Hedgehog Pie I can lose the Acc from Shura Kabuto and just use it for WS...

As for all the MNKs saying you can afford to eat Meat and rely on H2H merits and Togi: Stop kidding yourselves, I thought I could as well at the start, but then I learned and the only time I switch out my Snipers is during Focus (and rarely at that).

I doubt this piece would put a MNK over a WAR if they didn't already outdamage them anyway, so many other things a MNK needs, when I get this piece (and that new MNK body /drool) I'm gonna play around with my setups.

[Dirian]

I personally hate monk/nin. I don't know how any monks stand to sub ninja at all, or how people are getting out damaged by monk/nins unless said monk/nins are sporting brutal earrings and alot better equip then the meat eaters I party with, though anything where I feel I need shadows I just go warrior so that may have something to do with it. On that note: Ding 75 Monk tonight ^^



I'm somewhat wary at first at losing the acc I use right now in the head slot(10 on monk from ohat, 5 on war from adaman), but I also still lack haidate, so when I get that(should be soon if byakko decides to ever drop haidate again >_<) the 7 acc from the dex will make up for it.


And for all the people out there who think acc is so much greater than haste, maybe all the monks should just take off their brown belts/black belts right now, cause lord knows its not the str that makes those belts so attractive.

20% of the way to my turban, REALLY kicking myself for buying those maps and getting those two mog locker upgrades first now >_< 6k IS easy thrown away on that crap.

Guess you finally stopped waffling on that pcc purchase eh aurik? ^_=

[Ryko]

Went from 71 to 73 nin building IS on this crap <_> 750/1000

[Elcura]

I personally hate monk/nin. I don't know how any monks stand to sub ninja at all, or how people are getting out damaged by monk/nins unless said monk/nins are sporting brutal earrings and alot better equip then the meat eaters I party with, though anything where I feel I need shadows I just go warrior so that may have something to do with it. On that note: Ding 75 Monk tonight ^^



I'm somewhat wary at first at losing the acc I use right now in the head slot(10 on monk from ohat, 5 on war from adaman), but I also still lack haidate, so when I get that(should be soon if byakko decides to ever drop haidate again >_<) the 7 acc from the dex will make up for it.


And for all the people out there who think acc is so much greater than haste, maybe all the monks should just take off their brown belts/black belts right now, cause lord knows its not the str that makes those belts so attractive.

20% of the way to my turban, REALLY kicking myself for buying those maps and getting those two mog locker upgrades first now >_< 6k IS easy thrown away on that crap.

Guess you finally stopped waffling on that pcc purchase eh aurik? ^_=

Because giving up 5 STR 8 haste or 7 STR 12 haste -5%damage taken is SO WORTH 10 ACC "$U&("$&"

Put it this way, If you used Panzer mask before, for whatever situation, Taliban turban is for you. if you didn't use it at all, then don't get your panties up in a bunch.

Edit, you just got 75? You haven't even scratched the surface of MNK yet.

Acc isn't greater then haste, but haste isn't greater then acc, but both of them = win.

[DrObvious]

So you are saying this headpiece with Haste+5% (which again, isn't that much) is better than ACC+5 and ATK+8 on the NQ Head for Adaman? Granted I'm a Red Mage so that's one reason this headpiece is "meh" to me. I've seen parses (atleast in a few merits wth friends) where someone who was more decked out in ATK+ and STR+ and that kinda gear vs haste+ gear for a WAR beat the haste+ geared WAR. It doesn't seem like a big fucking deal.

There is no fucking contest between 5 str and 5% haste for tp gain. I call bullshit on an atk&str war beating a haste war too. You must be comparing a totally merited war to an unmerited one or those haste wars just plain sucked. Equipment doesn't make the player, I've seen ridill wars who get destroyed by non-ridill wars.

[Dirian]

But say like you've been using ohat and spike necklace all this time (/point aurik). Turban/PCC gives the same acc with 5% haste instead of 3 str 3 dex. Hmmm, tough call.


Also, its a tad naive to say that if I didn't use 2% haste in a head slot before I shouldn't now use 5%. With acc body, acc neck, 7 acc from haidate, at least one acc ring(if not two), 5 from food, if you're having troubles hitting then you're probably already at a point where you need to use sushi, because I doubt 5-10 more is going to push your acc rate 5% higher. 5% haste on your head is a huge boost, and I always kind of laugh that most monks seem to totally disregard any item that has haste on it in amounts less than 8%. Monks beat out other DDs almost on pure speed(assuming similar food >_>).


This is all assuming you're using ohat. If you're trying to argue shura head over this turban, now you're just pushing it, because no way in hell 5 acc and 5 str beats 5% haste.