Walahra Turban

[Khelek]

Since everyone keep spreading rumours about if the turban only works with sanction or not a friend of mine tested this see if it was true.

First test was in Jeuno WITH Sanction on and no haste gear except the turban 42s on Tonko: Ni, then after that he took off the turban and recast timer was 45s.

So that proves it works with Sanction in all areas, but in his 2nd test he did the same but instead of Sanction he used signet and got the exact same result, so unless he lies turban works in all areas without sanction if anyone was getting worried it only works with sanction :P

lol.. I think everyone understood that Janice was joking though :P

[TsingTao]

Apparently not everyone.

[Toksyuryel]

I think you guys are all missing the point. The point being: THIRTY GOD DAMMED PAGES!!!

This is gonna end up in Epic Threads, I just know it.

[epigram]

I think for the most part though, unless you are hitting 70% or below this rag is the best damn thing you can put on your head for melee TP gain.

[Elcura]

I think for the most part though, unless you are hitting 70% or below this rag is the best damn thing you can put on your head for melee TP gain.

I kinda disagree, if you're eating sushi then probably, but having a 80%+ hit rate isn't THAT easy to achieve, and if you can't hit at around at LEAST 85% you'll find TP gain often times slower and inconsistant, and no amount of +haste% will make up for that (you know what I mean). People forget that there needs to be a little bit of balance in their setups. No point hitting faster then a cheetah on steriods and pounding something harder then an elephant on viagra if you can't hit shit.

[epigram]

But if your hitting 80% +10 acc won't really increse your acc to 84%.

[aurik]

But if your hitting 80% +10 acc won't really increse your acc to 84%.

You'd be surprised. In the 80s, a little acc goes a long way.

[Elcura]

But if your hitting 80% +10 acc won't really increse your acc to 84%.

10 acc, or 5 acc 5 str (w/e). Hitting fast doesn't mean alot if you don't hit. If you used a Panzer +1 before you knew about this headpiece then get it immediately, but if you didn't use a Panzer +1 before, I wouldn't stress about it.

[Dezzimal]

I think you guys are all missing the point. The point being: THIRTY GOD DAMMED PAGES!!!

This is gonna end up in Epic Threads, I just know it.

Even with my attempt at derailing the thread with the power of shampoo.

[Xavier]

Conditioner is better.

[othellojr]

But if your hitting 80% +10 acc won't really increse your acc to 84%.

10 acc, or 5 acc 5 str (w/e). Hitting fast doesn't mean alot if you don't hit. If you used a Panzer +1 before you knew about this headpiece then get it immediately, but if you didn't use a Panzer +1 before, I wouldn't stress about it.

This is my stance on this headpiece, I will get it for my mnk eventually, but I am not stressing over it enough to buy currency; I am instead, making profit selling gold coins for over a mil a pop to the people who do not want to wait to get enough IS . My mnk is content enough with 20% haste for tp build (BB, Byakko's, Fumas) while eating meat and mainting a high enough hit rate(usually in the 90s, I don't run parsers but I have been told this by others who do have them- and I always go by the "eye rule" where if I see I miss too much, I use more acc) to keep up in dot with other monks in krt, or with wars and nins in sky/ule/sea/afghanistan areas. I think is a great piece of gear, but as Elcura said, if you did use a haste headpiece before (panther+1/nq) there is no reason to make this a priority now.

[epigram]

Once you get to a specific acc rate, the addition of 10 to 11.6(sushi+ohat) acc is going to give less return than +5% haste.

With 90% acc, +10 acc adds around 1-2% acc.

Now if you have 80% acc and +10 acc adds +4% acc then, save your money if you have an O-hat. But if the addition of +10acc adds less than 4% acc, the turban is better.

From my own parser results it seems that around 70% acc is where +10 acc seems to add around 4-5% acc, so this seems the logical place to put the turban on.

[Elcura]

Once you get to a specific acc rate, the addition of 10 to 11.6(sushi+ohat) acc is going to give less return than +5% haste.

With 90% acc, +10 acc adds around 1-2% acc.

Now if you have 80% acc and +10 acc adds +4% acc then, save your money if you have an O-hat. But if the addition of +10acc adds less than 4% acc, the turban is better.

From my own parser results it seems that around 70% acc is where +10 acc seems to add around 4-5% acc, so this seems the logical place to put the turban on.

Is everything you say only with Sushi? I think it's pretty damn hard to get a 90% hit rate eating meat. Suggesting you have 90% already means you're using sushi in which case using the Turban is a no brainer. But for us meat users sacrificing that much acc can only hurt you in the long run, sure it might look cool to swing fast, but it's less cool to miss more.

Not much of what you say makes sense to me so forgive me if I've missed the point, but at 70-80% hit rate you're either fighting something wrong or have no acc gear and using meat/atk/haste gear, in which case you should leave the PT or get some fucking acc gear.

It's like this, use sushi = wear haste/atk/str gear and have slightly higher haste % (at least 23-25% natural) and hit % (90-95%), but lower damage

Use meat = Wear acc/str/minimal haste gear (obvious things like haidate/BB) and have slightly lower haste % (8-20%) lower hit % (80-90%) and higher damage. But to reach 90% hit rate you NEED to have accuracy, sacrifcing 5-10 acc is big, and detrimental, at least that's how I see it.

Again, sorry if I missed something (it's kinda late and I've been working all day).

[Nny]

BuMp

I finally had another chance to PT and try meat. Was at Puk/Mamool camp instead of the Wyvern/Mamool camp and Meat's still very viable there. I had a total of 84% ACC without making any changes, and averaged 19 more damage per hit then the rid/joy war using sushi. Considering I had 87% ACC there the other day with Sushi, Meat really doesn't make much of a difference. Only problem is during Flash, almost 100% miss, whereas with Sushi+Macroing in full ACC gear you could still hit kinda well.

Wyvern/Mamool camp I'm still unsure though. Deffinatly need more ACC then my normal setup since those are all IT, but it's still the best choice.

[huckster]

Funny thing (Ramuh):

Was like 14m.

[huckster]

And here's the compilation of information, so you don't have to browse through 30 pages:


You get Walahra Turban for 1000 Imperial Bronze Piece traded to NPC Gajaad (I-6, Flameserpent Square, Al Zahbi).

NPC Awaheen in Nashnau (G-9, balcony near docks, left side after docking) can exchange coins:

• 1 gold = 5 mythril [/*:m:022df]
• 1 mythril = 2 silver [/*:m:022df]
• 1 silver = 5 bronze [/*:m:022df]

Or other way:

• 1 gold = 50 bronze[/*:m:022df]
• 1 mythril = 10 bronze[/*:m:022df]
• 1 silver = 5 bronze[/*:m:022df]

You need 20 golds (which gives 100 mythril -> 200 silver -> 1000 bronze).

NPC Ugrihd in Aht Urhgan Whitegate (G-9, balcony, Balrahn Way, SE corner) can trade Imperial Standings (IS) for coins (1 IS = 1 credit):

• 1000 credits = 1 gold[/*:m:022df]
• 20 credits = 1 bronze[/*:m:022df]
• 20000 credits = 1000 bronze[/*:m:022df]

Other way:
200,000 xp in new zones = 20,000 IS -> 20 gold

Remember to get Sanction from guards!

[Kirrinn]

so now to the next mystery:


Does Walahra Water DO anything?

[aurik]

Yes, +5% HP and MP.

[Veli]

Funny thing (Ramuh):


Was like 14m.

SE does alot of things without thinking. It is now free to level leather. I mean damn if you gonna make something this easy to get at least make a new synth that requires wyvern skins to make some kind of balance. Panther Mask +1 was only 10m on my server now its like 2m lol.

[Priran]

NPC Awaheen in Nashnau (G-9, balcony near docks, left side after docking) can exchange coins:

• 1 gold = 5 mythril [/*:m:6edfd]
• 1 mythril = 2 silver [/*:m:6edfd]
• 1 silver = 5 bronze [/*:m:6edfd]

Or other way:

• 1 gold = 50 bronze[/*:m:6edfd]
• 1 mythril = 10 bronze[/*:m:6edfd]
• 1 silver = 5 bronze[/*:m:6edfd]

You need 20 golds (which gives 100 mythril -> 200 silver -> 1000 bronze).

FFS this NPC does NOT trade up.