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    Quote Originally Posted by salvador
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilo
    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    WW2? Yeah, sure they helped.
    France lasted how long? If we did not step in I think the world would be a very different place.
    Just to add something, not trying to take away from your point, but most historians agree that the war would have ended even if the US did not enter into it. Europe getting libterated is another animal entirely though.
    It would have ended as all wars do of course. That wasn't the point of his post.
    not trying to take away from your point
    And ended soon is what I ment, sorry. I wasn't clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilo
    Quote Originally Posted by salvador
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilo
    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    WW2? Yeah, sure they helped.
    France lasted how long? If we did not step in I think the world would be a very different place.
    Just to add something, not trying to take away from your point, but most historians agree that the war would have ended even if the US did not enter into it. Europe getting libterated is another animal entirely though.
    It would have ended as all wars do of course. That wasn't the point of his post.
    not trying to take away from your point
    And ended soon is what I ment, sorry. I wasn't clear.
    Sorry, this is what I saw:

    "I'm posting something that goes agianst your point which would be just fine because this is of course a forum but just so I don't get flamed I'll also put 'not trying to take away from your point' somewhere in there also."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    oh I'm pretty sure even those people on your server, dont care. lol

    but don't let me stop you, flame on.

    was more poking you with a stick to antagonise you, than end the bitch session.


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    I'm on his server...rather, I should be technical, he's on MY server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilo
    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    WW2? Yeah, sure they helped.
    France lasted how long? If we did not step in I think the world would be a very different place.
    Just to add something, not trying to take away from your point, but most historians agree that the war would have ended even if the US did not enter into it. Europe getting libterated is another animal entirely though.
    You fucking kidding me? It's not like our generals turned the tide of the war in northern africa. it's not like our generals planned D-day. It's not like 75% of the troops on d-day were american. It's not like all of continental europe was taken over by the germans...
    o wait

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    [quote=salvador]
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilo
    Quote Originally Posted by salvador
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilo
    Quote Originally Posted by Heian
    Quote Originally Posted by "Lylie":275ee
    WW2? Yeah, sure they helped.
    France lasted how long? If we did not step in I think the world would be a very different place.
    Just to add something, not trying to take away from your point, but most historians agree that the war would have ended even if the US did not enter into it. Europe getting libterated is another animal entirely though.
    It would have ended as all wars do of course. That wasn't the point of his post.
    not trying to take away from your point
    And ended soon is what I ment, sorry. I wasn't clear.
    Sorry, this is what I saw:

    "I'm posting something that goes agianst your point which would be just fine because this is of course a forum but just so I don't get flamed I'll also put 'not trying to take away from your point' somewhere in there also."[/quote:275ee]

    I don't care for being flamed, but I also do not cry into my pillow at night when it happens.

    I was just pointing out something I remember seeing on the History channel not long ago (LOL learning iz phun), and I don't think it interfered with his point at all. But yeah, I probably shouldn't have posted anything in the first place. Noted for future reference.

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    History Channel is cool, but National Geographic is better imo

    Only bad thing about History Channel is that one quiz style show with the guy from the old school Double Dare. Too much of a brain drain<.<...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    You fucking kidding me? It's not like our generals turned the tide of the war in northern africa. it's not like our generals planned D-day. It's not like 75% of the troops on d-day were american. It's not like all of continental europe was taken over by the germans...
    o wait
    Why don't you learn what happened before you open your mouth? Because, obviously, you know nothing.

    All these gadgets you can see in James Bond movies have been created by Frenchs during the Resistance, and the Nazi occupation. People risked their life to give alot of very useful informations about how to proceed for D-Day.

    Frenchs, and Britains organized resistance from U.K. (one of them being General Charles de Gaule) for the D-Day on June 6th 1944, thanks to the informations Frenchs gave them.

    What did the USA do between 1939 (begining of the war) and 1941 (the day Japan attacked them at Pearl Harbor)? They helped Europe with money, food and ammo.

    So my question is, why did it took them 3 years (1941 - 1944) before the WW2 was over if US Army was SO powerfull? Even though, WW2 only ended in 1945 when USA threw two bombs on Japan, killing thousands of civilians (amazing how USA don't care to kill civilians people, i.e. Afganistan and Iraq).

    My guess is you don't have a fucking idea about what happened. But anyway, its not like if YOU, or YOUR father was involved in the WW2 right? Everything happened 60 years ago, and you are just a little ignorant kid hidden behind his PC, eating Mc Donalds, and need to go out more often (like school and such you know?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    You fucking kidding me? It's not like our generals turned the tide of the war in northern africa. it's not like our generals planned D-day. It's not like 75% of the troops on d-day were american. It's not like all of continental europe was taken over by the germans...
    o wait
    Why don't you learn what happened before you open your mouth? Because, obviously, you know nothing.

    All these gadgets you can see in James Bond movies have been created by Frenchs during the Resistance, and the Nazi occupation. People risked their life to give alot of very useful informations about how to proceed for D-Day.

    Frenchs, and Britains organized resistance from U.K. (one of them being General Charles de Gaule) for the D-Day on June 6th 1944, thanks to the informations Frenchs gave them.

    What did the USA do between 1939 (begining of the war) and 1941 (the day Japan attacked them at Pearl Harbor)? They helped Europe with money, food and ammo.

    So my question is, why did it took them 3 years (1941 - 1944) before the WW2 was over if US Army was SO powerfull? Even though, WW2 only ended in 1945 when USA threw two bombs on Japan, killing thousands of civilians (amazing how USA don't care to kill civilians people, i.e. Afganistan and Iraq).

    My guess is you don't have a fucking idea about what happened. But anyway, its not like if YOU, or YOUR father was involved in the WW2 right? Everything happened 60 years ago, and you are just a little ignorant kid hidden behind his PC, eating Mc Donalds, and need to go out more often (like school and such you know?).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    And your point is what Heian?

    Anyway:
    http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2...nstitre9de.png
    You fail

    PS: Agree with Mysterio.

    i know im 2 pages late, but even if the girl on the left has a butter face, id still hit it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    You fucking kidding me? It's not like our generals turned the tide of the war in northern africa. it's not like our generals planned D-day. It's not like 75% of the troops on d-day were american. It's not like all of continental europe was taken over by the germans...
    o wait
    Why don't you learn what happened before you open your mouth? Because, obviously, you know nothing.

    All these gadgets you can see in James Bond movies have been created by Frenchs during the Resistance, and the Nazi occupation. People risked their life to give alot of very useful informations about how to proceed for D-Day.

    Frenchs, and Britains organized resistance from U.K. (one of them being General Charles de Gaule) for the D-Day on June 6th 1944, thanks to the informations Frenchs gave them.

    What did the USA do between 1939 (begining of the war) and 1941 (the day Japan attacked them at Pearl Harbor)? They helped Europe with money, food and ammo.

    So my question is, why did it took them 3 years (1941 - 1944) before the WW2 was over if US Army was SO powerfull? Even though, WW2 only ended in 1945 when USA threw two bombs on Japan, killing thousands of civilians (amazing how USA don't care to kill civilians people, i.e. Afganistan and Iraq).

    My guess is you don't have a fucking idea about what happened. But anyway, its not like if YOU, or YOUR father was involved in the WW2 right? Everything happened 60 years ago, and you are just a little ignorant kid hidden behind his PC, eating Mc Donalds, and need to go out more often (like school and such you know?).
    Everyone risked alot for D-Day to happen. Sure, the French along with many other European countries helped bring about D-Day, but which country had the most troups invading German occupied areas? I'll give you a guess...the Americans. The Brittish along with American and Canadian forces were the ones that risked their lives out in the battle fields and died in great amounts to get France (along with most of Europe) liberated from the Germans. Intelligence only goes so far, the rest can only be achieved with force.

    If the roles were reversed and France was the one sitting across the ocean while the U.S. were being invaded I seriously doubt they would help out without something major happening to their country. No country wants to lose valuable lives in a conflict which they do not see a need to get involved in.

    Btw, I know how alot of older french hate fast food places, but what did the PC ever do agianst you?

    Edited the bold word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    So my question is, why did it took them 3 years (1941 - 1944) before the WW2 was over if US Army was SO powerfull?
    So you criticize that the US didn't help you soon enough, you criticize that the US didn't win the war fast enough, and then you criticize the way the US won the war?

    You act like we gave you minimal support. The US ended up contributing 42 billion dollars to the war effort by the end of it. Nevermind the fact this was right after The Great Depression.

    The US didn't have to help you. But they sent everything they could and you stand here and belittle them? Go fuck yourself.

    Not to say the US did everything, but the US has to be the most underappreciated country ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    You fucking kidding me? It's not like our generals turned the tide of the war in northern africa. it's not like our generals planned D-day. It's not like 75% of the troops on d-day were american. It's not like all of continental europe was taken over by the germans...
    o wait
    Why don't you learn what happened before you open your mouth? Because, obviously, you know nothing.

    All these gadgets you can see in James Bond movies have been created by Frenchs during the Resistance, and the Nazi occupation. People risked their life to give alot of very useful informations about how to proceed for D-Day.

    Frenchs, and Britains organized resistance from U.K. (one of them being General Charles de Gaule) for the D-Day on June 6th 1944, thanks to the informations Frenchs gave them.

    What did the USA do between 1939 (begining of the war) and 1941 (the day Japan attacked them at Pearl Harbor)? They helped Europe with money, food and ammo.

    So my question is, why did it took them 3 years (1941 - 1944) before the WW2 was over if US Army was SO powerfull? Even though, WW2 only ended in 1945 when USA threw two bombs on Japan, killing thousands of civilians (amazing how USA don't care to kill civilians people, i.e. Afganistan and Iraq).

    My guess is you don't have a fucking idea about what happened. But anyway, its not like if YOU, or YOUR father was involved in the WW2 right? Everything happened 60 years ago, and you are just a little ignorant kid hidden behind his PC, eating Mc Donalds, and need to go out more often (like school and such you know?).
    If the French truly were capable of handling the situation themselves and didn't need US help, how come their entire country was taken over in a matter of weeks(months? Been soooo long since I read about it all, and I know you aren't exactly saying that France didn't need US help.. but um..)

    By the way, it's not like America is the only country to ever attack civilians(Japan in China and Korea, Germany in europe, Italyin Africa, Russia in um.. Russia and Eastern Europe, not to mention that ALL European powers involved in imperialism didn't quite treat their colonies too well...) and even then, the attacks were centered around factories producing war materials, things like that. Not alot of people support involvement in the middle east, I don't want anyone to die, I don't want our troops over there, but it's not like the US military just goes arround killing civilians, and you shouldn't say it like that either. I don't even know how Bush was elected/re-elected.

    I really wish that the US had gotten involved in World War II as soon as it had started, it would have helped prevent millions of deaths, and I don't like how the reason why we entered it directly was because Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. I say directly, because as you stated before, US was sending alot of materials, weapons, etc. to the Allies and such. US would have entered alot earlier, if it hadn't been for congress and politics.

    As for dropping the two bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (chosen for the military operations going on there), normal bombings of Japan did more total damage and took more lives total than the two Atomic bombs did. Dropping them was more of a flaunt of power towards the Soviet Union.

    Um, anyways.. noone is saying that Victory in Europe was owed only to the US, just that it wouldn't have happened without US involvement, and the cooperation of US, UK, USSR, and FR (Anyone else? Canada and Australia were part of the UK and such) No clue if everything I wrote makes sense or not, 1 in the morning, sleep now

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    If you read again, I never critizised that USA helped, I was refering to the "We, Americans are so powerfull, we help you, you owe us so much! You silly Frenchs are so stupid". If you are refering of when I talked about USA sending bombs Japan, I must admit, that WW2 had to end, but Japan didn't want to stop the bullshit, and that the Atomic Bomb made a good stop to the WW2, and showed everyone what was the real power of this weapon (and by this mean, avoid anyone to use it again later).

    I know what every country did, and Im not bitching anyone. Im only trying to make you all understand, you little kids behind their PC playing FFXI, going to school / work in a peacefull world, that you cannot talk about stuffs like WW2, France being occupated, while you know nothing about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paralyzed
    Not to say the US did everything, but the US has to be the most underappreciated country ever.
    Yeah, I wonder why they are so hated all over the world. Really, I do

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    So your saying you were out there experiencing it firsthand?

    Fuckoff you pompous asshole.

    Nobody owes anyone anything, we willfully aided the countries monetarily, and with manpower.

    We could have not just as well, and the french could have twiddled thier thumbs with thier info.

    Just becuase your not in the U.S. does not make you more fucking enlightened to WHAT REALLY HAPPENED OMG. They are draping the covers over our eyes and feeding us lies~! You pick up a fucking history book and read this shit, its the truth here OR in france.

    The truth is, we willingly helped some countries out when we didn't have to, but we did it willingly so are owed nothing.

    You foriegn fucks need to stop belittling shit in the past simply becuase we have an ape in the office at the present.

    p.s. french people suck dick at mmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    If you read again, I never critizised that USA helped, I was refering to the "We, Americans are so powerfull, we help you, you owe us so much! You silly Frenchs are so stupid". If you are refering of when I talked about USA sending bombs Japan, I must admit, that WW2 had to end, but Japan didn't want to stop the bullshit, and that the Atomic Bomb made a good stop to the WW2, and showed everyone what was the real power of this weapon (and by this mean, avoid anyone to use it again later).

    I know what every country did, and Im not bitching anyone. Im only trying to make you all understand, you little kids behind their PC playing FFXI, going to school / work in a peacefull world, that you cannot talk about stuffs like WW2, France being occupated, while you know nothing about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paralyzed
    Not to say the US did everything, but the US has to be the most underappreciated country ever.
    Yeah, I wonder why they are so hated all over the world. Really, I do
    Us "kids" don't have first hand knowledge, but thats what classes and history books are for. And we're hated for some of the policies that we have had over the years, but most recently for our "re-electing" Dubyah and in turn encouraging his agenda. Gotta love how people think of our country sometimes...

    person1-> The world is such a horrendous place...
    person2-> Those damn yankees...

    I dunno how Bush got re-elected either...friends in really high places ftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parshath
    J'ai perdu mon omlette au fromage
    LOL I was reading all this thread, expecting to find this sentence !

    Good Job Parsh !

    Some fun in this shitty thread...
    I never expected to meet so many nationalists/racists in FF. Americans and/or French tbh.

    That's fucking stupid, you all masturbate yourselves on what you read in books, what you heard, etc...

    Now STFU everyone, or I'll start to blame English for having killed Mel Gibson in Braveheart

    If you need some pride or honor, go find it by yourself, dont try to get it with your grandparents stories.

    And yes, I'm french and live it quite well.

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    VIVA LA REVOLUTION!! '-')/
    it's vive la révolution, n00b

    To the OP:

    SVP, mentionne pas que tes francais, tu fais juste nous faire honte ...

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    lol tu te considères comme Francaise Jas ? 8)
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    Putain les gens c'est quoi ce bordel?
    Vous foutez la honte aux français sur le plus gros forum de bigkills de FF, bravo...

    By the way I am in a half NA - half French LS for two years and it works really good. We aren't 170 people and we don't wipe on Tiamat....
    This LS is just the gathering of frenchs noobs from one server, it doesn't mean we all suck.

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    why has all this uproar started over a joke thread?

    why have these boards become so serious?

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