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  1. #81
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    So your strategy is TP spamming with kraken/nothing and then slugwinder to the face?

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    [quote=Semitry][quote=Xavier][quote=Semitry][quote=Lordwafik][quote=Xavier][quote="Lordwafik":a4b2f]Oh btw, rangers DESTROY trolls. People who think rangers are nerfed, lawl.[/quote]
    With nin sub, or with /war "I pull hate and die now" sub?[/quote]

    my friend was rng/nin. He still did some measly sidewinders, but alot of the time when he WS'd, the troll was chasing him around over the 2 ridill wars.

    RNG who are true RNG never got nerfed.[/quote]

    And a well equipped rng/nin out DDs ridill wars in merit pts![/quote]
    full of shit lol[/quote]

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    Dannte, Taimoor are decked out ridill wars, corwen and me are rng/nin in uleguerand range.

    The difference is even worse in the new exp areas with things that fly.[/quote:a4b2f]

    They cant be as decked as your claiming... and this is why... 755.28 average WS damage for the war, thats just patheic... hell i dont even have a ridill or a adaman hauby and i average around 1000 in range. Also if this war is so "decked" a rng wouldnt Out TP him.. parse says he did 105 WS's to your 250ish, next time at least do the parse right; that info proves nothing. From the looks up it he looks like he pressed Attack and went AFK.

    I'm sorry, that parse fails, nice try though 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
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    Dannte, Taimoor are decked out ridill wars, corwen and me are rng/nin in uleguerand range.

    The difference is even worse in the new exp areas with things that fly.
    Try that on mobs that live for 30 seconds like in Caedrava mire and at most you're getting off 2-3 shots. If you played RNG and had a Ridill or Kraken club before the distance nerf you'd say what we have today is shit too. We used to be able to melee for comperable damage to that of a WAR, ranged attack it point blank for 200-250 damage, and then do a WS for 2000.

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    I was about to point out the low WS avg. too

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    gtfo my wamoura mobs.
    Wamoura are always overcamped when I said Mt Zaholm for manaburns I ment flans

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    And that WS DMG is modified for the RNGs

    How do I know?

    There are big fatty eyes that my THF can break 1300 on DE. If a THF can do that much (granted with SATA) then there's a piercing bonus. I've seen RNGs boost their DMG% here by a good 5-10% by saving Barrage for the Eyes.

    Are they doing more dmg? Yes...

    But they are relying on the WAR more for the rest of the mobs, and he -still- pulled through for the chain (I'm assuming).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetrios
    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
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    http://semi.all-manga.net/03-07-2006.html

    Dannte, Taimoor are decked out ridill wars, corwen and me are rng/nin in uleguerand range.

    The difference is even worse in the new exp areas with things that fly.
    Try that on mobs that live for 30 seconds like in Caedrava mire and at most you're getting off 2-3 shots. If you played RNG and had a Ridill or Kraken club before the distance nerf you'd say what we have today is shit too. We used to be able to melee for comperable damage to that of a WAR, ranged attack it point blank for 200-250 damage, and then do a WS for 2000.
    Yeah, it is nerfed but that's not to say RNG blow now. And hellfire's optimal rng is just outside of melee range, just walk back a few feet and WS, not that hard. It works on Puks and the difference is even greater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I was about to point out the low WS avg. too
    lol did you see the low ws #, 255; I've never seen a decked war hit a rampage that low... unless he was using raging axe or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Are those really rangers doing less than 1,000 rnged dmg the entire party?
    Yes, but notice they WS 2x as much as anyone else. Ie, KC FTW
    IE any job can do that lol
    How many jobs can single wield KC and spam the strongest WS in the game? Dual wielding hinders TP gain immensely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I was about to point out the low WS avg. too
    lol did you see the low ws #, 255; I've never seen a decked war hit a rampage that low... unless he was using raging axe or something.
    His WS probably got truncated by the mob's death.

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    There are big fatty eyes that my THF can break 1300 on DE. If a THF can do that much (granted with SATA) then there's a piercing bonus.
    Not true, nin sub I break 1500 on most any mob, war sub I break 1900 cake. not counting undead

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    Semitry, were you using the KC you bought out of Danntes bazaar when he was xping solo in Dangruf Wadi is do you have a different one now?

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    [quote=kazen][quote=Semitry][quote=Xavier][quote=Semitry][quote=Lordwafik][quote="Xavier":38826][quote="Lordwafik":38826]Oh btw, rangers DESTROY trolls. People who think rangers are nerfed, lawl.[/quote]
    With nin sub, or with /war "I pull hate and die now" sub?[/quote]

    my friend was rng/nin. He still did some measly sidewinders, but alot of the time when he WS'd, the troll was chasing him around over the 2 ridill wars.

    RNG who are true RNG never got nerfed.[/quote]

    And a well equipped rng/nin out DDs ridill wars in merit pts![/quote]
    full of shit lol[/quote]

    [url="http://semi.all-manga.net/03-04-2006.html"]http://semi.all-manga.net/03-04-2006.html[/url]
    http://semi.all-manga.net/03-07-2006.html

    Dannte, Taimoor are decked out ridill wars, corwen and me are rng/nin in uleguerand range.

    The difference is even worse in the new exp areas with things that fly.[/quote:38826]

    They cant be as decked as your claiming... and this is why... 755.28 average WS damage for the war, thats just patheic... hell i dont even have a ridill or a adaman hauby and i average around 1000 in range. Also if this war is so "decked" a rng wouldnt Out TP him.. parse says he did 105 WS's to your 250ish, next time at least do the parse right; that info proves nothing. From the looks up it he looks like he pressed Attack and went AFK.

    I'm sorry, that parse fails, nice try though 8)[/quote:38826]

    I don't know, but Dannte's the most decked out war on midgard (aside from trephine who quit) that i can think of. Anyone in PO could vouch for his skills/merits and gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Are those really rangers doing less than 1,000 rnged dmg the entire party?
    Yes, but notice they WS 2x as much as anyone else. Ie, KC FTW
    IE any job can do that lol
    How many jobs can single wield KC and spam the strongest WS in the game? Dual wielding hinders TP gain immensely.
    Strongest WS in the game? loool i hope you dont mean slug/sidewander; if so thats laughable at best. "strongest" lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siatdiat
    Semitry, were you using the KC you bought out of Danntes bazaar when he was xping solo in Dangruf Wadi is do you have a different one now?
    lol, different one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I was about to point out the low WS avg. too
    lol did you see the low ws #, 255; I've never seen a decked war hit a rampage that low... unless he was using raging axe or something.
    I'm generally over 1,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Are those really rangers doing less than 1,000 rnged dmg the entire party?
    Yes, but notice they WS 2x as much as anyone else. Ie, KC FTW
    IE any job can do that lol
    How many jobs can single wield KC and spam the strongest WS in the game? Dual wielding hinders TP gain immensely.
    Strongest WS in the game? loool i hope you dont mean slug/sidewander; if so thats laughable at best. "strongest" lol..
    Well, on merited mobs and, un sataed and not at 300% TP blah blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I was about to point out the low WS avg. too
    lol did you see the low ws #, 255; I've never seen a decked war hit a rampage that low... unless he was using raging axe or something.
    I'm generally over 1,000.
    Yeah the same, i dont see how the "Most decked war on so and so server" averaged so low.. last time i had a parse done i averaged at 1037 with a 730 low and a 1498 high and thats only with +52 str for ws.

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    [quote=Semitry]
    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Semitry
    Quote Originally Posted by "Xavier":0fce1
    Are those really rangers doing less than 1,000 rnged dmg the entire party?
    Yes, but notice they WS 2x as much as anyone else. Ie, KC FTW
    IE any job can do that lol
    How many jobs can single wield KC and spam the strongest WS in the game? Dual wielding hinders TP gain immensely.
    Strongest WS in the game? loool i hope you dont mean slug/sidewander; if so thats laughable at best. "strongest" lol..
    Well, on merited mobs and, un sataed and not at 300% TP blah blah.[/quote:0fce1]

    It probably is consistently the highest WS on neutral damage mobs (no flies or skellies) if you had berserk, 2x minuet, attack food, etc but you'd sure be one hell of a MP sponge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I was about to point out the low WS avg. too
    lol did you see the low ws #, 255; I've never seen a decked war hit a rampage that low... unless he was using raging axe or something.
    I'm generally over 1,000.
    Yeah the same, i dont see how the "Most decked war on so and so server" averaged so low.. last time i had a parse done i averaged at 1037 with a 730 low and a 1498 high and thats only with +52 str for ws.
    Bard was singing double march.

    And most decked out war i can think of. There may be others, i don't know them.

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