Turban Vs. Shura Kabuto??

[Nny]

Eh... Nny, what is the evasion rating of PUP? I've honestly never had trouble hitting them, even with meat and moderate accuracy gear @ zhayolm, didn't seem much different than the PLD trolls. They also don't seem to have much HP at all - their automaton goes down slower than the troll itself.

I believe they have the same EVA rating as MNK?

I had trouble hitting them regardless, as well as the other meat WAR I was with.

[Elcura]

Eh... Nny, what is the evasion rating of PUP? I've honestly never had trouble hitting them, even with meat and moderate accuracy gear @ zhayolm, didn't seem much different than the PLD trolls. They also don't seem to have much HP at all - their automaton goes down slower than the troll itself.

B- to B+, I can't remember exactly

[Hirronimus]

It simpy comes down to:

Buying Attack/STR+ gear and eatting expensive ass sushi

or buying an expensive ass Accu+ gear and eatting meat

amirite?

[Shinryuu]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/...wutsgoinon.jpg

[edgarfigaro]

Food is one of the rare things that actually makes a difference in this game.

unless you're a mage.

[Nagamaki]

It makes a difference for mages too, its just easier to get lazy and not care since its definitely on a smaller scale.

[epigram]

Not even for mages. If they gave us +macc and +mab food maybe, but there isn't any.

[edgarfigaro]

It makes a difference for mages too, its just easier to get lazy and not care since its definitely on a smaller scale.

a melee not using food: it's noticed, mocked, and lucky if they're not kicked.

a mage not using food: the difference in 10 damage is definately noticed, mocked, and the mage is kicked...oh wait >.>

[Not Kuno]

It makes a difference for mages too, its just easier to get lazy and not care since its definitely on a smaller scale.

a melee not using food: it's noticed, mocked, and lucky if they're not kicked.

a mage not using food: the difference in 10 damage is definately noticed, mocked, and the mage is kicked...oh wait >.>

Trufax.

All we get are +mp (lol), +hmp (I hate cookies), +int (not worth the money for the dmg improvement) and -emnity (lol)

We need Magic Attack Bonus (meat), or Ele skill/Magic Accuracy (sushi). I would buy those food.

[Nagamaki]

I meant mages in general, and even for BLM Jelly is pretty nice, the INT isn't going to make you hit 50 times harder but its linear damage improvement and a bunch of MP.

For support mages, well lets just compare 1 fairly cheap mage food with 1 not quite cheap piece of armor :

Effects for Mushroom Stew:
MP +40
Strength -1
Mind +4
MP Regeneration While Healing +4
Enmity -4

Effects for Errant Cape:
MP +30
Enmity -5

Sure you can live without, but having a 3hour burger status that acts like an Errant Cape in your stomach and gives you hMP and MND qualifies as making a difference as far as I'm concerned.

[Lordwafik]

I used to use cookies, they got annoying after a while when I had to use one every 3 mins.

I started using Choco Delights, but those got annoying to find for a good price, all the ingredients are dirt cheap yet the HQ was going for a rediculous price.

So now I use nothing at all! And nobody cares, RDM dont rest.

On BLM I use "Imperial Coffee" , +3hmp , if i can get +1 i'll use it for all my good burn parties, but usually on blm I rest MP fast enough as it is.

[genome]

It's a good point, but even soloing i didn't get asurans that low, and even with rdm i often opened with asuran at the start (like when amnesia didn't let me use it on previous mob and it wore off as i got to next mob), so before dia2, and i would still do at least 800-900 (i often didn't boost before ws there for fear that it would move out of range as i was pressing macro if rdm casted something or converted). Also his high/low normal hits are very low too, 89/29. Unless that doesn't include criticals, criticals on those mobs should be at least breaking 100, and even 1 would show up in the high...

Some people also talk a lot of bullshit...

Well i only mentioned it because the numbers seemed incredibly low. I am not saying you made them up, I am just saying it looks really odd.
If you don't want to say why your absolute max dmg hits and ws in that session are so low, that's fine, but I imagine other mnks who xp'd there would agree with me something looks wrong with those low parse results.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...IMP-asuran.png
on a VT imp, yet your max ws was 600 dmg is odd if you were the same exact job/sub as me. I wasn't doing anything special like wearing faith claws or anything (those wouldn't increase asuran dmg anyways), and I was using mostly evasive/tanking gear.

[Priran]

That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.

or perhaps

Some of the Idolaters are thf mobs

you've never exped on thf mobs or what?

I was in my 60s when CoP came out, and even then if someone pulled a Blagger in Bibiki it either dropped the bomb or you died, since no one could touch them. Even now, the THF Qiqirn in the PSC Lebros Assault take noticably longer to kill than the RNG.

You are aware that THF has the highest Evasion skill in the game as well as an Evasion Bonus job trait?

[Dezzimal]

That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.

or perhaps

Some of the Idolaters are thf mobs

you've never exped on thf mobs or what?

I was in my 60s when CoP came out, and even then if someone pulled a Blagger in Bibiki it either dropped the bomb or you died, since no one could touch them. Even now, the THF Qiqirn in the PSC Lebros Assault take noticably longer to kill than the RNG.

You are aware that THF has the highest Evasion skill in the game as well as an Evasion Bonus job trait?

If the -tough- THF mobs in Leberos do the sandspray blind move, they check high evasion to me even with sushi/normal XP accuracy gear.

[NynJa]

Well i only mentioned it because the numbers seemed incredibly low. I am not saying you made them up, I am just saying it looks really odd.
If you don't want to say why your absolute max dmg hits and ws in that session are so low, that's fine, but I imagine other mnks who xp'd there would agree with me something looks wrong with those low parse results.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...IMP-asuran.png
on a VT imp, yet your max ws was 600 dmg is odd if you were the same exact job/sub as me. I wasn't doing anything special like wearing faith claws or anything (those wouldn't increase asuran dmg anyways), and I was using mostly evasive/tanking gear.

you say thats duoing with a rdm/nin ?? How am I supposed to know ?? How am I supposed to know thats not taken with a bard in the party doing double minuet and dia2 on it ??

I wasnt getting any dia on my mobs. My monk is hardly merited (2 h2h, 0 str, full kick and counter though), I also had some pretty (no ranged weapon, one earring (brutal), NQ amemet backpiece, AF2 boots for WS). My monk isnt pimp, I never claimed it is, I never said it is.

[amlaruil]

It simpy comes down to:

Buying Attack/STR+ gear and eatting expensive ass sushi

or buying an expensive ass Accu+ gear and eatting meat

amirite?

For merited jobs I think it's more using acc gear and eating meat, or using haste gear and eating sushi. Most of the time melee jobs only benefit from having around 90-100 STR, beyond that it only affects WS and the secondary benefit to attack.

[genome]

Well i only mentioned it because the numbers seemed incredibly low. I am not saying you made them up, I am just saying it looks really odd.
If you don't want to say why your absolute max dmg hits and ws in that session are so low, that's fine, but I imagine other mnks who xp'd there would agree with me something looks wrong with those low parse results.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...IMP-asuran.png
on a VT imp, yet your max ws was 600 dmg is odd if you were the same exact job/sub as me. I wasn't doing anything special like wearing faith claws or anything (those wouldn't increase asuran dmg anyways), and I was using mostly evasive/tanking gear.

you say thats duoing with a rdm/nin ?? How am I supposed to know ?? How am I supposed to know thats not taken with a bard in the party doing double minuet and dia2 on it ??

I wasnt getting any dia on my mobs. My monk is hardly merited (2 h2h, 0 str, full kick and counter though), I also had some pretty (no ranged weapon, one earring (brutal), NQ amemet backpiece, AF2 boots for WS). My monk isnt pimp, I never claimed it is, I never said it is.

I am not trying to put you down, I am just saying those numbers are not representative of monk damage on those mobs, they are way too low, and I was asking if maybe you weren't wearing weapons or wearing unusual ones (boreal cesti, narashima cesti) or something for some reason (mess around, testing etc).
This is the original picture I had cut the asuran from, as I said just me duoing with RDM. I am not saying that you need to break 1k+ every single time, just that it is really odd that you never, not even once during that xp PT went over 600. That just seems odd so I asked.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...I/img_0027.jpg

[Turtlesoup]

Well i only mentioned it because the numbers seemed incredibly low. I am not saying you made them up, I am just saying it looks really odd.
If you don't want to say why your absolute max dmg hits and ws in that session are so low, that's fine, but I imagine other mnks who xp'd there would agree with me something looks wrong with those low parse results.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...IMP-asuran.png
on a VT imp, yet your max ws was 600 dmg is odd if you were the same exact job/sub as me. I wasn't doing anything special like wearing faith claws or anything (those wouldn't increase asuran dmg anyways), and I was using mostly evasive/tanking gear.

you say thats duoing with a rdm/nin ?? How am I supposed to know ?? How am I supposed to know thats not taken with a bard in the party doing double minuet and dia2 on it ??

I wasnt getting any dia on my mobs. My monk is hardly merited (2 h2h, 0 str, full kick and counter though), I also had some pretty (no ranged weapon, one earring (brutal), NQ amemet backpiece, AF2 boots for WS). My monk isnt pimp, I never claimed it is, I never said it is.

cuz u r teh gimp?
m i rite? cuz i think im rite but i dunt no for shure lololz

You should be able to get over 600 on a ws using lv 1 gear and an up to date weapon.

[NynJa]

You know, to be honest...I might have forgotten to equip destroyers. I'm sure I had them on, but theres a small chance I just hit my WS gear macro then my TP gear macro to throw gear on after changing jobs and completely neglected weapons.

I did that in the PSC escort:
cleared 2 sets of crabs "Oh shit, forgot to equip destroyers lol".

[Lockecole]

NQ Amemet?