Turban Vs. Shura Kabuto??

[aurik]

I lost that parse though, so you're wrong as usual.

[Machazareel]

1) I havn't seen a sushi user get much more than 80 per fist.
2) merited meat users with a balanced gear set (by that i mean, not all out acc) do just over 90% hit rate

Well shit
I guess these sushi users dont gear for attack/haste, do they ??
So you've got the meat users gearing for accuracy, versus sushi users who gear for accuracy. No wonder meat wins !


and a meat users not gearing for accuracy get 90% hit rate ?? lol ok...

on T-VT mobs you can be nearly naked and have a good hitrate when you have merits <.>

[NynJa]

I lost that parse though, so you're wrong as usual.

am I ??
I've never seen someone post a parse where they "lost", and why would they ??


"Hey, check out my dmg, I got raped lol".

[aurik]

I lost that parse though, so you're wrong as usual.

am I ??
I've never seen someone post a parse where they "lost", and why would they ??


"Hey, check out my dmg, I got raped lol".

Well, check out the parse I just posted, Brennon beat me out. So much for "always".

[NynJa]

I lost that parse though, so you're wrong as usual.

am I ??
I've never seen someone post a parse where they "lost", and why would they ??


"Hey, check out my dmg, I got raped lol".

Well, check out the parse I just posted, Brennon beat me out. So much for "always".

You also XP in SH+1, sooooooooooo

[aurik]

I lost that parse though, so you're wrong as usual.

am I ??
I've never seen someone post a parse where they "lost", and why would they ??


"Hey, check out my dmg, I got raped lol".

Well, check out the parse I just posted, Brennon beat me out. So much for "always".

You also XP in SH+1, sooooooooooo

So that means "always" means "not always"? I'm having trouble following your logic here.

[Lockecole]

1) I havn't seen a sushi user get much more than 80 per fist.

Lol? On a VT mob that is WEAK to your weapon type? Wow...just when I think you have some merit to your argument you say something like this.

[NynJa]

I lost that parse though, so you're wrong as usual.

am I ??
I've never seen someone post a parse where they "lost", and why would they ??


"Hey, check out my dmg, I got raped lol".

Well, check out the parse I just posted, Brennon beat me out. So much for "always".

You also XP in SH+1, sooooooooooo

So that means "always" means "not always"? I'm having trouble following your logic here.

no, just strange how a "monk god" like you, who "knows everything", doesnt have an osode (which you claimed is a piece of shit), or a shura togi.

[aurik]

[quote=NynJa]

I lost that parse though, so you're wrong as usual.

am I ??
I've never seen someone post a parse where they "lost", and why would they ??


"Hey, check out my dmg, I got raped lol".

Well, check out the parse I just posted, Brennon beat me out. So much for "always".

You also XP in SH+1, sooooooooooo

So that means "always" means "not always"? I'm having trouble following your logic here.

no, just strange how a "monk god" like you, who "knows everything", doesnt have an osode (which you claimed is a piece of shit), or a shura togi.[/quote:67ff9]

Funny how I still do pretty decent damage. I credit the meats :O

[Lockecole]

Here's my homemade parser:

label: print "sushi sucks!"
print "meat rules!"
sleep 10
goto label

No really...my parser doesn't draw any conclusions...it just tells me facts...

http://aurikan.despayre.org/sparse.txt

So...let me get this right, your highest Asuran Fist was 1182, and you're proud of your build? Not to mention with 3 MNKs your highest chain was chain 17? Sorry if Im not reading this, but if all of this is indeed right...then I don't even know why Im arguing. (my sushi using MNK friend spits out 1400 Asurans like its noones business. No I'm not bragging, it's the truth.) And yes I realize alot of the damage of a meat build comes from your DoT, but when your Asuran's are that low, there's something wrong. Did you guys not have a BRD?

[Alleya]

Too bad it will never beat a monk who actually has the good gear.

[NynJa]

[quote=aurik][quote=NynJa]

I lost that parse though, so you're wrong as usual.

am I ??
I've never seen someone post a parse where they "lost", and why would they ??


"Hey, check out my dmg, I got raped lol".

Well, check out the parse I just posted, Brennon beat me out. So much for "always".

You also XP in SH+1, sooooooooooo

So that means "always" means "not always"? I'm having trouble following your logic here.

no, just strange how a "monk god" like you, who "knows everything", doesnt have an osode (which you claimed is a piece of shit), or a shura togi.[/quote:da07d]

Funny how I still do pretty decent damage. I credit the meats :O[/quote:da07d]
Pretty decent damage ??

Mean Damage
==========================
Name Overall Norm Crit
Aurik 99.516785 90.146132 154.852792
Brennon 122.362332 114.731533 191.129032
Tavian 108.906611 99.853686 165.455814
==========================

Hit Rate
==========================
Aurik 4081 / 4533 (90.028679)
Brennon 3414 / 3803 (89.771233)
Tavian 3116 / 3525 (88.397163)
==========================

Tabs might have brokened from the quote, but if I'm reading this correctly, your average non-crit is 90 dmg ?? Oh shit, that's what I do with SUSHI. Yet, instead of your 90% hit rate, I get 95%. Not to mention I'm not wasting time popping eye drops (which, yes..does fuck with your delay)



GO MEAT !!!!!

[aurik]

Every sushi user I've ever parsed averages in the low 80s or worse. You must be "Special"

[Lordwafik]

REMEMBER WHEN I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SUSHI VS MEAT?

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Nobody cares and you're all gay.

[Lockecole]

I'm not even arguing that I'd use Sushi in KRT, which I probably wouldnt...but with these numbers on KRT mobs, it really makes me question how you're even hitting anything, or chaining anything in the new EXP areas/U.Range. Trust me I only use sushi in the new areas or U.Range: I use meat in Caedarva Mire (Imps/Flys), sky (weapons), or anything with Tough-con like mobs. (Limbus, Dynams except Xarc).

I just don't see what's special. Your hit per first isn't that amazing, neither is your WS damage. And ontop of all of this, you're losing out on alot of haste. ::Fails to be impressed::

[aurik]

I'm not even arguing that I'd use Sushi in KRT, which I probably wouldnt...but with these numbers on KRT mobs, it really makes me question how you're even hitting anything, or chaining anything in the new EXP areas/U.Range. Trust me I only use sushi in the new areas or U.Range: I use meat in Caedarva Mire (Imps/Flys), sky (weapons), or anything with Tough-con like mobs. (Limbus, Dynams except Xarc).

I just don't see what's special. Your hit per first isn't that amazing, neither is your WS damage. And ontop of all of this, you're losing out on alot of haste. ::Fails to be impressed::

Look at the per-mob breakdown; ghosts skew the overall numbers a lot.

[Nagamaki]

I bring Hedgehog Pie to KRT but if the PT outlasts it or there's death for some reason or another (pretty rare with competent mages, but happens once in awhile) and its gone, I'll use sushi.

If I were ever to hit for less than 80avg (with Destroyers instead of Caestus, since 4-5 relic isn't quite average) I would kill myself on the fucking spot. I don't know what kind of pathetic weaklings use sushi on asura with but that's /NIN no fucking BRD damage, not sushi damage.

Aside from that, the WS numbers in that parse are really really unimpressive. AF top damage with Destroyers should be over 1400 regardless of food, DK and RF similar too. With Caestus top damage in KRT on AF is 1600, with RF and DK averages being lower but spike being similar on RF and higher on DK thanks to DAs (personnal record 1768) And for the love of god 717 cap damage on Final Heaven? What the hell!?

[aurik]

I bring Hedgehog Pie to KRT but if the PT outlasts it or there's death for some reason or another (pretty rare with competent mages, but happens once in awhile) and its gone, I'll use sushi.

If I were ever to hit for less than 80avg (with Destroyers instead of Caestus, since 4-5 relic isn't quite average) I would kill myself on the fucking spot. I don't know what kind of pathetic weaklings use sushi on asura with but that's /NIN no fucking BRD damage, not sushi damage.

Aside from that, the WS numbers in that parse are really really unimpressive. AF top damage with Destroyers should be over 1400 regardless of food, DK and RF similar too. With Caestus top damage in KRT on AF is 1600, with RF and DK averages being lower but spike being similar on RF and higher on DK thanks to DAs (personnal record 1768) And for the love of god 717 cap damage on Final Heaven? What the hell!?

Try using march/minuet, it's much better than double minuets. And you won't hardly ever see 1400+ with march/minuet becase /shock attack affects your WS damage.

And 717 cap on Final heaven is due to the fact the only time she uses it is to 2-person chain light on the ghosts.

[NynJa]

1) I havn't seen a sushi user get much more than 80 per fist.

Lol? On a VT mob that is WEAK to your weapon type? Wow...just when I think you have some merit to your argument you say something like this.

So...let me get this right, your highest Asuran Fist was 1182, and you're proud of your build? Not to mention with 3 MNKs your highest chain was chain 17? Sorry if Im not reading this, but if all of this is indeed right...then I don't even know why Im arguing. (my sushi using MNK friend spits out 1400 Asurans like its noones business. No I'm not bragging, it's the truth.) And yes I realize alot of the damage of a meat build comes from your DoT, but when your Asuran's are that low, there's something wrong. Did you guys not have a BRD?

If I were ever to hit for less than 80avg (with Destroyers instead of Caestus, since 4-5 relic isn't quite average) I would kill myself on the fucking spot. I don't know what kind of pathetic weaklings use sushi on asura with but that's /NIN no fucking BRD damage, not sushi damage.

Really Aurik, you're still arguing with me ??


I dont know what kinda sushi eating retards you xp with, but here we go again with that clouded vision. You see what YOU want to see, not what is there.

[aurik]

1) I havn't seen a sushi user get much more than 80 per fist.

Lol? On a VT mob that is WEAK to your weapon type? Wow...just when I think you have some merit to your argument you say something like this.

So...let me get this right, your highest Asuran Fist was 1182, and you're proud of your build? Not to mention with 3 MNKs your highest chain was chain 17? Sorry if Im not reading this, but if all of this is indeed right...then I don't even know why Im arguing. (my sushi using MNK friend spits out 1400 Asurans like its noones business. No I'm not bragging, it's the truth.) And yes I realize alot of the damage of a meat build comes from your DoT, but when your Asuran's are that low, there's something wrong. Did you guys not have a BRD?

If I were ever to hit for less than 80avg (with Destroyers instead of Caestus, since 4-5 relic isn't quite average) I would kill myself on the fucking spot. I don't know what kind of pathetic weaklings use sushi on asura with but that's /NIN no fucking BRD damage, not sushi damage.

Really Aurik, you're still arguing with me ??


I dont know what kinda sushi eating retards you xp with, but here we go again with that clouded vision. You see what YOU want to see, not what is there.

I generally refuse to xp with sushi eaters at all because they gimp it up if they don't get double minuets, which they don't get in my party because the rest of the monks eat meat and want minuet/march. The rare occasion I do xp with them, yes, they do hit low 80s high 70s, because they're working with a single minuet.

If you wanna talk about how much damage you do with double minuets, I don't fucking care, because all your monks are missing a march which adds a hell of a lot more damage.