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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.
    Oh right, he wasn't paying attention and that made him miss more often.

    The point isn't to show that omg this nin can't hit, it's to show how much the extra accuracy given by sushi increases his accuracy over mine. And the parse showed...that it didn't raise it by very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2user
    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor
    He never said anything about winning the parser either, he was simply showing that his accuracy using acc gear and meat is about the same as someone built for Sushi.
    dude, logic, can i have it?

    meat user with 74% hit rate VS sushi user with 77 hit rate.

    who wins?

    he never said anything about winning the parser, oh ya he didnt.
    Dude, I've already PROVEN Nynja wrong, ironically before he made that claim in the first place I posted a parse that zomg, I didn't win!

    So...Nynja is wrong again. He's already dropped the discussion, I see no reason to rub it in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.
    Oh right, he wasn't paying attention and that made him miss more often.

    The point isn't to show that omg this nin can't hit, it's to show how much the extra accuracy given by sushi increases his accuracy over mine. And the parse showed...that it didn't raise it by very much.
    if you're not trying, you dont macro gear for the situation. you take one specific set, slap it on, and jin at 130 instead of 100, because once agian, you're not paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.
    Oh right, he wasn't paying attention and that made him miss more often.

    The point isn't to show that omg this nin can't hit, it's to show how much the extra accuracy given by sushi increases his accuracy over mine. And the parse showed...that it didn't raise it by very much.
    because this nin cant hit, the extra acc sushi gives doesnt increase his acc much

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.
    Oh right, he wasn't paying attention and that made him miss more often.

    The point isn't to show that omg this nin can't hit, it's to show how much the extra accuracy given by sushi increases his accuracy over mine. And the parse showed...that it didn't raise it by very much.
    if you're not trying, you dont macro gear for the situation. you take one specific set, slap it on, and jin at 130 instead of 100, because once agian, you're not paying attention.
    And his jin damage / TP has exactly what bearing on accuracy?

    btw, he used Ku a lot, because we were fucking around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2user
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.
    Oh right, he wasn't paying attention and that made him miss more often.

    The point isn't to show that omg this nin can't hit, it's to show how much the extra accuracy given by sushi increases his accuracy over mine. And the parse showed...that it didn't raise it by very much.
    because this nin cant hit, the extra acc sushi gives doesnt increase his acc much
    Wow, that's a gem. "Because his accuracy was poor, adding accuracy didn't do much."

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.
    Oh right, he wasn't paying attention and that made him miss more often.

    The point isn't to show that omg this nin can't hit, it's to show how much the extra accuracy given by sushi increases his accuracy over mine. And the parse showed...that it didn't raise it by very much.
    if you're not trying, you dont macro gear for the situation. you take one specific set, slap it on, and jin at 130 instead of 100, because once agian, you're not paying attention.
    And his jin damage / TP has exactly what bearing on accuracy?

    btw, he used Ku a lot, because we were fucking around.
    ok?

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    Aurik did you stop to think that you build appropriatley to your food, but many others dont? and you're proud to say that your build is better. If half the people you PT'd with used the right equip build for thier food, I'm sure "almost" everything you post about you and meat wouldn't be in your favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    That NIN in your parser must have had horrible gear and/or sucked pretty bad to hit 77% WITH sushi. That proves nothing in your favor.
    Oh right, he wasn't paying attention and that made him miss more often.

    The point isn't to show that omg this nin can't hit, it's to show how much the extra accuracy given by sushi increases his accuracy over mine. And the parse showed...that it didn't raise it by very much.
    if you're not trying, you dont macro gear for the situation. you take one specific set, slap it on, and jin at 130 instead of 100, because once agian, you're not paying attention.
    And his jin damage / TP has exactly what bearing on accuracy?

    btw, he used Ku a lot, because we were fucking around.
    ok?
    "Ok" explains how his jin damage affects his accuracy? Because it isn't exactly common fucking knowledge that high damage blade: jins lowers monster evasion.

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    the jin was in regards to not paying attention...it has no bearing whatsoever towards accuracy, just the fact that they are jinning at 130 instead of 100 because they arent paying attention...they are "fucking around".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyangi
    Aurik did you stop to think that you build appropriatley to your food, but many others dont? and you're proud to say that your build is better. If half the people you PT'd with used the right equip build for thier food, I'm sure "almost" everything you post about you and meat wouldn't be in your favor.
    Thanks for the compliment. I *know* I build appropriately for my food. It's a subject I've done a lot of research into. I don't parse to prove I'm better than other people--in fact, usually when I parse, I parse against myself by varying my own equipment, and totally filter other people's damage, rather than competitive "who has the bigger epenis" parses.

    And that's why I'm not afraid to post a parse that I "lost". Big deal, who cares. It's not like the winner gets a bigger share of xp.

    I know that there's a lot of good builds with sushi, and that properly built a sushi user does fine damage, and they will have no problems chaining high and getting great xp, especially in a sushi-onry party where other factors can be tuned to favor the build.

    However, in looking for peak performance I came to the conclusion that meats outperform, especially in KRT where the mob levels are so low. With new ToAU merit areas, where the mobs have higher evasion than KRT, the conclusion is a lot less clear, but I still feel that meats are outperforming, and this latest parse I ran supported that feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    the jin was in regards to not paying attention...it has no bearing whatsoever towards accuracy, just the fact that they are jinning at 130 instead of 100 because they arent paying attention...they are "fucking around".
    Ok, so you still haven't explained how "fucking around" taints the accuracy numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    the jin was in regards to not paying attention...it has no bearing whatsoever towards accuracy, just the fact that they are jinning at 130 instead of 100 because they arent paying attention...they are "fucking around".
    Ok, so you still haven't explained how "fucking around" taints the accuracy numbers.
    Yes, I have. You're too fucking ignorant, or stupid, to comprehend it.

    The ninja slaps ONE SET OF GEAR ON. It is not NOT an optimal set.

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    Maybe I'm too fucking stupid to have seen it, but where did Aurik ever state the NIN was using one set of gear? You yourself stated that while trying to define what "fucking around" meant in this context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    the jin was in regards to not paying attention...it has no bearing whatsoever towards accuracy, just the fact that they are jinning at 130 instead of 100 because they arent paying attention...they are "fucking around".
    Ok, so you still haven't explained how "fucking around" taints the accuracy numbers.
    Yes, I have. You're too fucking ignorant, or stupid, to comprehend it.

    The ninja slaps ONE SET OF GEAR ON. It is not NOT an optimal set.
    See the thing is, I don't care whether he is macroing or not. I checked his TP gear for how much accuracy he had, I know what food he's using, and that's really all that I care about. I don't care if he's "winning" or "losing" or what, so long as he stays alive and we keep getting xp.

    All I care about are the data points: how much acc% does X accuracy + Y skill + sushi generate? How much acc% does P accuracy + Q skill + meats generate?

    Thus whether he was macroing for jin and/or using the "optimal" build, it doesn't matter. The data point is still valid whether he's fucking around or not.

    You're either too young or too stupid to follow such "advanced" logic, and you're angry at me because you looked like a fool in the AV topic, and thus you're posting here. But you don't really have much to say, you're just trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor
    Maybe I'm too fucking stupid to have seen it, but where did Aurik ever state the NIN was using one set of gear? You yourself stated that while trying to define what "fucking around" meant in this context.
    it was an assumption...
    if this nin is macroing gear in and out, then he obviously isnt fucking around, but if he's hitting 77% with sushi, he's le gimp.



    I looked like a fool in the AV topic ??
    The only person who looked like a fool was you with your fucking ANTI-SEA mentality, you're fucking one track mine that "if its not my way its shit". Your lazy ass "I dont want to waste 2 hours of my friends lives to get me a torque so I'll waste countless hours of my friends lives to get someone a ridill".
    YA OK BUDDY

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor
    Maybe I'm too fucking stupid to have seen it, but where did Aurik ever state the NIN was using one set of gear? You yourself stated that while trying to define what "fucking around" meant in this context.
    it was an assumption...
    if this nin is macroing gear in and out, then he obviously isnt fucking around, but if he's hitting 77% with sushi, he's le gimp.
    The point is this: who cares if he's fucking around or the gimp or what.
    * His accuracy gear plus that much weapon skill plus sushi, equals about 77% accuracy on VT/IT thf idolaters.
    * My accuracy gear plus my weapon skill plus sis kebabi (lol) equals about 74% accuracy on VT/IT thf idolaters.

    Who gives a shit what our xp per hr and epenis length per mob was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Who gives a shit what our xp per hr and epenis length per mob was?
    I'm certain I dont speak for myself alone, but I'm ALMOST certain that xp/hr is the most important factor...

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    as long as you taylor your gear to your food I don't think it's going to make or break a merit party.

    anyway i'm just posting to say, "fucking around" I will just WS in eva gear a lot of the time, but then Aurik said he was doint that also so meh. IMHO sorry Aurik but this (2nd)parce is kinda like the time Genome posted that parce from double dragonion, we'd be best off ignoring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxSlusherxx
    as long as you taylor your gear to your food I don't think it's going to make or break a merit party.

    anyway i'm just posting to say, "fucking around" I will just WS in eva gear a lot of the time, but then Aurik said he was doint that also so meh. IMHO sorry Aurik but this (2nd)parce is kinda like the time Genome posted that parce from double dragonion, we'd be best off ignoring it.
    You don't need to ignore it if you understand the context of the parse, and thus you understand where the parse is good data and where it's not good data. It's good that it provides me info about accuracy->acc%. It's not so good as a direct comparison between my damage and the other people's damage.


    And Nynja...dude...we were exping with 5 people, no bard, and with a fucking stack of hatchets so we could hit logging points in between kills. I didn't even look at the exp we were getting.

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