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  1. #161
    Ridill
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    Septimus Atumre
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    [quote=genome][quote=Zhila][quote=genome][quote=Septimus]
    Quote Originally Posted by inafume
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa":7ce9d]So because I opt to get a 67 BRD to cast ballad on me, I'm lvling the job wrong. A war lvls in standard parties from 10 to 75. Then they learn that at 55 they could have just joined WAR WAR WAR WAR BRD RDM spamming rampage, which yes...despite no Utsu:Ni, works. So, by lvling "properly", the war learned the least optimal way to get xp. Your analogy is BRILLIANT.

    Really, is there anything to learn about weaponskill spam other than fuck shit up ?? Isnt that the entire concept of XP PT....FUCK SHIT UP ?[/quote]
    I actually do think that levelling in spam parties [i]only[/i] is just as bad as BLMs levelling in BLM parties only. At endgame it can affect your ability in HNMs and such that require more strategy than just OMG RAMPAGE.

    Sure they got easy and quick XP, but does it give them all-around skills? Probably not.[/quote]

    If OMG RAMPAGE is wrong, then I don't want to be right.[/quote]
    Speaking of learning strategy from xp PTs and applying to endgame, I found this pretty cool and funny :wink: :

    FFXI Red Mage Party Simulator:
    [url="http://ffxisim.ytmnd.com/
    http://ffxisim.ytmnd.com/[/url]

    Septimus maybe from your RDM experience you can tell me if it's accurate or not, other rdms might put their two cents in =P
    Not 100% accurate. Those melees would be asking for Haste too.
    You are right, and even more importantly dispel. I guess RDM is a lot more exciting than that simulator would have you believe :wink:[/quote:7ce9d]

    It's a bird, nothing to dispel.

    Alternate haste and refresh, and it is 100% correct. ;_;

  2. #162
    Relic Horn
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    no debuffs? the fuck if I'm casting jubaku for you.

  3. #163
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Only debuffs I get to cast are Silence, Gravity, and Dispel
    Ninjas are usually using Hojo/Jubaku
    Refresh, Haste, Cure3, Refresh, Haste, Cure3, Refresh, Cure3, Haste RINSE REPEAT

    Sometimes I sub DRK and Stun stuff too :D
    Then occasionally when things get hairy I go "Sleep2!!"

    oh yeah, and Dia2!!

  4. #164
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    no debuffs? the fuck if I'm casting jubaku for you.
    In a burn party, when do you have time to squeeze in debuffs? If the mob comes in when you are in the middle of refresh/haste cycle, you generally won't even have time to do Dia II.

  5. #165
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    no debuffs? the fuck if I'm casting jubaku for you.
    In a burn party, when do you have time to squeeze in debuffs? If the mob comes in when you are in the middle of refresh/haste cycle, you generally won't even have time to do Dia II.
    In Burn PTs I pull with Blind ;\
    sometimes I cast Dia2 but end up killing the BRD

  6. #166
    Genoslut
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    Most PTs: Refresh, Haste

    PTs in Caedarva Mire: Refresh, Haste, Support Nuke, laugh

    <3 Caedarva Mire, where a 700+ dmg thunder III can actually save a chain

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