E3 Nintendo Discussion Thread

[Lizardfeatures]

Oh noes... I'm sensing an intraweb fight.

Dear Joe (aka Dumbass);

The Wii is not more functional than the PS3. That is a fact. Does the term backwards compatible mean anything to you? As an example:

Wii purchaser: "Hooray... I got my Wii for $299"
5 Minutes Later
Wii purchaser: "Great... all my other Nintendo shyt is useless".
Insert tears... and tons of cables behind the TV.

While we're still on this topic, PS3 will be setting the standard for next gen systems. Nintendo has already said that they are not competing with Sony or anyone else. Nintendo has thier fan base, much like Sony... much like XBox. The Wii (which is a horrible name) is just another product for Nintendo but is by no means a benchmark. Much like the DS, it has its finer qualities but sets not standard.

End rant.

[Vade]

found a bigger picture.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Oh noes... I'm sensing an intraweb fight.

Dear Joe (aka Dumbass);

The Wii is not more functional than the PS3. That is a fact. Does the term backwards compatible mean anything to you? As an example:

Wii purchaser: "Hooray... I got my Wii for $299"
5 Minutes Later
Wii purchaser: "Great... all my other Nintendo shyt is useless".
Insert tears... and tons of cables behind the TV.

While we're still on this topic, PS3 will be setting the standard for next gen systems. Nintendo has already said that they are not competing with Sony or anyone else. Nintendo has thier fan base, much like Sony... much like XBox. The Wii (which is a horrible name) is just another product for Nintendo but is by no means a benchmark. Much like the DS, it has its finer qualities but sets not standard.

End rant.

...what are you talking about? Its backwards compatible with every fucking nintendo system... I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say except 'I like sony NANANANANANAN and my processor is more powerful than yours'

and lol@ calling me joe

[Elcura]

I still haven't got a dedicated DVD player cause I own a PS2, you know that no DVD player was another reason GC was second best to Sony last generation.

I seriously feel sorry for you.

PS2 dvd player is a piece of shit, and is blown away by any $50 one you can buy nowadays.

Anyways, it comes down to this: PS3 and Xbox360 will have basically a similar lineup, and the most 3rd party support. Wii will have the nintendo games, and some inovative 3rd party games. Last generation, most people chose between xbox and ps2, and if they got a 2nd console, they got a GC (because PS2 and Xbox was pretty much redundant). This generation would've been the same, but with a $600 pricetag, few people will buy a second console if they buy PS3. Those same people that enjoyed having 2 different consoles will more likely than not chose 360 over PS3 for that reason.

So it comes down to, do you want to be locked into a $600 console and it's library, or get 2 consoles and 2 different librarys for the price of one. It's a risky gamble on Sony's part, because Microsoft is getting better every day, and Nintendo will always have a base core of fans that will buy their consoles for their games alone.

Ok, this is seriously my last post (fucking work keeping me up). Firstly, I appreciate the sympathy, even though it's pretty lost on me.

The PS2's DVD player plays DVDs. End. Of. Story. Nothing else matters, cause at the end of the day, if I can watch DVDs (hell, even pirated ones) on my PS2, then switch the CD for KH2 then I'm much happier then I would be with my bog standard DVD player (had I wanted a DVD recorder it would be a different story, but I don't so whatever).

Every company has their fanbase, and you know, I will buy the PS3 FOR THE GAMES I MENTIONED IN MY POST WAY BACK SOME PAGES. No one reads that much, I honestly don't think there is much to argue.

One thing we all agree on, people will buy what they want and what they like.

[Djohn]

The Wii is not more functional than the PS3. That is a fact.

That's like saying "I don't care if you have a stick that can shoot laser beams and vaporize my brain, my stick is bigger and better for bludgeoning people over the head with."

Silly but truthful comparisons ftw!

[GRT]

Xbox was a far superior machine than the PS2...

System Librarys>system strength

unfortunately it's a lot more about business competition than fanboys screaming at one another

and ps2 total global sales being 5 times greater in hardware and 15 times greater in software than xbox speaks for itself

edit: oh yah just reminded me, remember microsoft speaking about establishing their market in asia with 360 where the original xbox has failed? guess what, so far, 360 has failed even more XD

[SephYuyX]

The ONLY reason Sony has beaten out Nintendo and Microsoft in sales is because of its library. Handhelds Sony failed in, and what little library it has just kills it more.

Sad but true people take graphics over game play. I really wish developers went back to the Nintendo bandwagon..

Id really say fuck it to PS3, but I know im not going to be able to find any good S/RPGs on another system... (FFCC sucks my balls and so did Fable)

Ill be getting Wii on release, ill never get a 360 unless it goes down to 100$ and the only way ill buy a PS3 is if it comes out with some KILLER S/RPGs (the only reason I have a PS2).

[Lordwafik]

FF:CC wasnt even a real FF, it felt more like golden axe. I was dissapointed because the game, unlike other FF games, didnt make you a part of it. Anytime you enter the zone, you get the same cutscene as you always did, giving that distant feeling. And oh lack of amazing story where art thou.

SE should give FF back to nintendo /crai.

If they do that I wont have to buy a PS3

[edgarfigaro]

eclura, the PS2 dvd player is a pos...period. I would never watch a DVD on there, because the playback quality just plain sucks. I'm glad you're happy with subpar dvd playback, but I'm not when a quality DVD player is only $50.

[Elcura]

eclura, the PS2 dvd player is a pos...period. I would never watch a DVD on there, because the playback quality just plain sucks. I'm glad you're happy with subpar dvd playback, but I'm not when a quality DVD player is only $50.

I can't tell the difference, if there is any it's pretty fucking small, so small the only difference I see is the control you use. I've watched DVDs at my friends house on his DVD player, I've watched them on my PC, and I've watched them on my PS2.

You know why I'm happy? Cause I'm fucking watching them, not squirming about it. If GC had a DVD player and I had a GC, I'd watch DVDs on that too (but if GC had a DVD player it would be awesome right? I'm talking about the actual player, not the concept)

[Lordwafik]

You know why I'm happy? Cause I'm fucking watching them, not squirming about it. If GC had a DVD player and I had a GC, I'd watch DVDs on that too (but if GC had a DVD player it would be awesome right? I'm talking about the actual player, not the concept)

（´∀｀）

[Elcura]

You know why I'm happy? Cause I'm fucking watching them, not squirming about it. If GC had a DVD player and I had a GC, I'd watch DVDs on that too (but if GC had a DVD player it would be awesome right? I'm talking about the actual player, not the concept)

（´∀｀）

I'm not sure what I'm looking it, but it LOOKS nice. Actually that reminds me that GC had a DVD version didn't they? I completely forgot about that even though it sounds right =O Personally I don't know anyone with one... if there even was one... >.>

[Lordwafik]

yah, that was 1 of the models that were JP ONRY, along with the orange cube and im pretty sure the hot pink and yellow one too . I seriously think if that's what the cube came out as, then it'd probably be on top today since it was cheaper than the other consoles despite the fact it had a DVD in it.

The only reason it wasnt widespread, if nintendo had DVD support on each console, they'd have to pay royalties per console even on the consoles they didnt sell. Which is why on the Wii, if you want DVD support you'll have to buy the add on, which covers royalty costs, and they dont lose money (by paying royalties) per console.

[Vade]

yeah that's the panosonic gamecube...anyway I got news for you.


DUCK HUNT IS COMING TO WII!!!!!!!

[Lbelle]

blu-Ray, and HD might be the technology of the future, but I don't care if my dvd is in HD or...blu-ray?..I just want to watch the damn thing.

I haven't heard ANYONE say "OMG PS3 IS GOING TO HAVE BLUE-RAY SO MY NEW DVDS ARE GOING TO OWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN FACE," They're all saying "OMG 600$, but MGS looks so good, along with FF13~~~~~"

Who the fuck cares about DVD playback...we want games. Everyone can get a DVD player nowadays, we have like 6 in my house and my family is definitely not rich or anything.

Having the capability is nice I guess, but by putting blu-ray in their system at start might make it look and sound cool, but I think maybe they could have had it as an addon? Sounds kinda...stupid maybe but it would drop the price by alot and wouldn't have THAT big of an effect imo.


Personally, Sony's (edit) ENTIRE conference bore me to death, and I actually like Sony. Microsoft's was alot better, (edit) minus Bill Gates, and Nintendo just did a superior job with theirs.

[Lordwafik]

yeah that's the panosonic gamecube...anyway I got news for you.


DUCK HUNT IS COMING TO WII!!!!!!!

There's a game that'll pwn with the controller :D

But I do agree with elcura, there's too little of a difference between a DVD player playing from the PS, and a DVD playing from a DVD player to warrant me losing more room in my cabinet to get a DVD player.

My TV pwns enough to sharpen images. The only thing I hate about PS2 dvd is using the controller, a remote can fix that but I dont wanna pay.

[Vade]

Oh, did I mention RE exclusive title for wii.

http://e3.justpause.com/?p=81

also trauma center 2: second opinion

and here's a list of DS titles.

Activision

Over the Hedge™ May 2006
X-Men™: The Official Game May 2006
Marvel™: Ultimate Alliance Q4 2006
Activision Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam™ Q4 2006

American Game Factory

Miss Spider: Harvest Time Hop and Fly May 2006
Strawberry Shortcake: Strawberryland Games Q3 2006
Cartoon Network Grand Prix Q4 2006
Code Lyoko Q4 2006
Garfield: Tale of Two Kitties Q4 2006

Atari

Arthur & The Minimoys November 2006
Totally Spies! 2 (working title) November 2006

Atlus

Contact July 2006
Deep Labyrinth Q4 2006

Bethesda Softworks

Star Trek Tactical Assault Fall 2006

Buena Vista Games

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest June 2006
Disney's American Dragon: Jake Long Attack of the Dark Dragon August 2006
The Suite Life of Zack & Cody August 2006
Spectrobes September 2006
Chicken Little: TBD October 2006
Disney's The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Undersea Adventure October 2006
Hannah Montana October 2006
That's So Raven: Psychic on the Scene October 2006
Disney's Herbie November 2006
Disney's Kim Possible: Global Gemini November 2006
Meteos: Disney Edition November 2006
Disney's Meet the Robinsons March 2007

Capcom

Mega Man ZX September 2006
Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney 2 October 2006

Codemasters

Micro Machines® V4 June 2006

D3

Break'em All July 2006
Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi: The Genie and the Amp July 2006
Fossil League D.T.C. Q3 2006
Dreamworks Flushed Away October 2006
Warlords Champions Q4 2006

Destination Software

Risk / Battleship / Clue / Connect 4 / Trouble / Sorry October 2006
B-17 Flying Fortress / Silent Running November 2006
Lionel Trains - On Track Q4 2006
Princess Natasha: "Student ~ Secret Agent ~ Princess" Q4 2006
Uno / Uno Skipbo / Uno Freefall Q4 2006
Uno 52 Q1 2007

Eidos

Tomb Raider Legend September 2006

EA

Madden NFL '07 August 2006
Superman Returns June 2006

Kemco

Spy Vs Spy: M.A.D (Mutually Assured Destruction) Q4 2006
Top Gear: Downforce Q4 2006

Konami

Lunar Knights: Vampire Hunters November 2006
Xiaolin Showdown November 2006
Castlevania Portrait of Ruin Fall 2006
Death Jr. and the Science Fair of Doom Fall 2006
Marvel Trading Card Game Fall 2006
My Frogger Fall 2006
Steel Horizon Fall 2006
Winx Club: Shadow of the Phoenix Fall 2006
Winning Eleven Pro Evolution Soccer Spring 2007

LucasArts

LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy September 2006

Majesco

Dino Master May 2006
Cooking Mama (working title) Q4 2006
Mech Assault: Phantom War TBA 2006
Monster Bomber TBA 2006

Midway Games

Happy Feet Q4 2006

NAMCO BANDAI Games

Point Blank June 2006

Natsume

Harvest Moon DS June 2006
Freedom Wings July 2006
Puzzle de Harvest Moon (working title) August 2006

Nintendo

New Super Mario Bros.® May 15, 2006
Big Brain Academy™ June 5, 2006
Magnetica™ June 5, 2006
Sudoku Gridmaster June 26, 2006
Tenchu®: Dark Secret™ Aug. 21, 2006
Mario™ Hoops 3-on-3 Sept. 11, 2006
Mario vs. Donkey Kong™ 2: March of the Minis Sept. 25, 2006
Pokémon® Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team Sept. 18, 2006
Star Fox® DS Sept. 25, 2006
Children of Mana® Q4 2006
Clubhouse Games™ Q4 2006
Custom Robo™ Arena Q4 2006
Elite Beat Agents™ Q4 2006
Magical Vacation (working title) Q4 2006
Pokémon® Ranger Q4 2006
The Legend of Zelda®: Phantom Hourglass Q4 2006
Yoshi's Island® 2 Q4 2006
Diddy Kong® Racing DS Q4 2006
Hotel Dusk: Room 215™ Q4 2006
Chibi-Robo™: Park Patrol TBA
Kirby™ TBA
Archaic Sealed Heat TBA
DK™: King of Swing DS TBA
DS Air TBA

SEGA

Charlotte's Web Q4 2006

SNK

SNK VS CAPCOM: Card Fighters Clash October 2006

Square Enix

Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime September 2006
FINAL FANTASY III September 2006

Summitsoft

Mini RC Rally May 2006

Telegames

Ultimate Brain Games TBA
Ultimate Card Games TBA
Ultimate Puzzle Games TBA

Ubisoft

Open Season September 2006
Rayman November 2006

Vivendi Universal Games

The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning October 2006
Crash Boom Bang! October 2006
Eragon November 2006

[Elcura]

Except that, I'm pretty certain that Blu-Ray is being used for games as well. If not now, then certainly in the future (when DVDs become the new VSH, which won't take long).

Edit: just checked, blu-ray is a crucial componant, so even the $400 people will have it, blu-ray DVDs are like DVDs+2, blue boarder and everything, PS3 will push games to the next limit. If you doubt it, you've never played MGS before.

[Lordwafik]

Vade , since you're close to the industry, are you able to ask/find out if PAL systems can download the NES/SNES/N64 games the same time they're available for NTSC systems? Or will we get fucked over again? Also for games that didnt get released to PAL such as NES/SNES final fantasy games.

If you cant, oh well i'll find out in a year.

[Lbelle]

omg @ harvest moon and disney meteos. omg.

harvest moon on DS omgmskldgsakf. I'm so excited; ;