Total BS Beseiged

[Faranim]

I love how BLMs finally get a taste of the bottom end of the totem pole and it's like the gates of Hell have opened and spewed out all over the forums.

Hey BLMs guess what? Welcome to what the other 17 jobs feel like in the other 99% of FFXI.

"OMG I'm not the best? Something must surely be wrong!"

BLM is the best at so many things, I don't understand why you need to bitch about being gimp in Beseiged. I can think of tons of activites which other jobs cannot effectively participate in, it's about damn time BLMs got a taste of what being useless is like.

Rather than SE Nerfing BLM, they're just making the new Content to be anti-BLM. It still does the same thing.

[Melchiah]

BLM damage is horked now, yes. The example of the 120 BLMs I gave was before the Besieged update. I totally am down with single target nukes, and I said so in my post. I am totally not down with assholes, and I said so in my post. I'm sure there are melee assholes too, in fact HEnterprise is full of them. But melees don't have AoE at the level of aga III nukes, Circle Blade and the like are craptastic. Like I said, it's not the BLM job, its the ones who wanna be jerks. On Titan, that same crew got what they deserved last time around. Like I said before, back-to-back attacks, with Lv 5 forces, and they tried to -aga III... and they got eaten. Honestly, it made my day. Even moreso because we asked them politely to leave us some mobs to kill, and more than a few of them responded rudely and kept on with the Firaga IIIs.

[Lordwafik]

I love how BLMs finally get a taste of the bottom end of the totem pole and it's like the gates of Hell have opened and spewed out all over the forums.

Hey BLMs guess what? Welcome to what the other 17 jobs feel like in the other 99% of FFXI.

"OMG I'm not the best? Something must surely be wrong!"

BLM is the best at so many things, I don't understand why you need to bitch about being gimp in Beseiged. I can think of tons of activites which other jobs cannot effectively participate in, it's about damn time BLMs got a taste of what being useless is like.

Rather than SE Nerfing BLM, they're just making the new Content to be anti-BLM. It still does the same thing.

Take your bard songs, and 1/4 their power for NO REASON AT ALL aside from the fact that you are a bard.

Then, make sure after 3 songs, you cant sing anymore and you have to rest for 3-5 mins to get the ability to sing back.

Then ontop of all that, you dont get many points, because you're not doing your job properly/dishing enough power out from your songs (and it is out of your control to change that), simply because, you're a bard with quarter-power songs.

This is how it feels like. We're not complaining that we're not the best, we never claimed to be. You're a frigging bard, you should know by now war/nin > blm for lots of shit. But to be nerfed to the point where a DRAGOON is more potent than you is pathetic.

[Eaglestrike]

Take your bard songs, and 1/4 their power for NO REASON AT ALL aside from the fact that you are a bard.

Then, make sure after 3 songs, you cant sing anymore and you have to rest for 3-5 mins to get the ability to sing back.

Then ontop of all that, you dont get many points, because you're not doing your job properly/dishing enough power out from your songs (and it is out of your control to change that), simply because, you're a bard with quarter-power songs.

This is how it feels like. We're not complaining that we're not the best, we never claimed to be. You're a frigging bard, you should know by now war/nin > blm for lots of shit. But to be nerfed to the point where a DRAGOON is more potent than you is pathetic.

You're complaining because there is something in this game (aside from JoT) that you as a blm are useless. But about half the jobs are told they're useless in half of end-game content anyway...

[epigram]

Hey Hey Hey, keep the dragoons out of it.

[NynJa]

there is no event in this game that is anti-melee, with the excpetion of mamaburn...but thats just xp. If you really want to say "well manaburn is anti-melee", then I can say "ws spam is anti-blm".



once again:
There is no event in this game that is anti-melee

If you can think of one, voice it, and I will shoot it down.

[Lordwafik]

Take your bard songs, and 1/4 their power for NO REASON AT ALL aside from the fact that you are a bard.

Then, make sure after 3 songs, you cant sing anymore and you have to rest for 3-5 mins to get the ability to sing back.

Then ontop of all that, you dont get many points, because you're not doing your job properly/dishing enough power out from your songs (and it is out of your control to change that), simply because, you're a bard with quarter-power songs.

This is how it feels like. We're not complaining that we're not the best, we never claimed to be. You're a frigging bard, you should know by now war/nin > blm for lots of shit. But to be nerfed to the point where a DRAGOON is more potent than you is pathetic.

You're complaining because there is something in this game (aside from JoT) that you as a blm are useless. But about half the jobs are told they're useless in half of end-game content anyway...

No, im complaining because of an unfair adjustment making us useless, when previously we were good.

So for example, your sneak/trick attack gets nerfed in beseiged only, aswell as dagger damage, and you dont wanna come to it as other jobs, you wanna come as thief.

I have 2 other 75 jobs that are VERY pimped out, it's not about coming as another job, 1 job shouldnt be completely nerfed to the point wwhere it cant contribute jackshit.

[Not Kuno]

Take your bard songs, and 1/4 their power for NO REASON AT ALL aside from the fact that you are a bard.

Then, make sure after 3 songs, you cant sing anymore and you have to rest for 3-5 mins to get the ability to sing back.

Then ontop of all that, you dont get many points, because you're not doing your job properly/dishing enough power out from your songs (and it is out of your control to change that), simply because, you're a bard with quarter-power songs.

This is how it feels like. We're not complaining that we're not the best, we never claimed to be. You're a frigging bard, you should know by now war/nin > blm for lots of shit. But to be nerfed to the point where a DRAGOON is more potent than you is pathetic.

You're complaining because there is something in this game (aside from JoT) that you as a blm are useless. But about half the jobs are told they're useless in half of end-game content anyway...

They're only useless cause their ls excludes them probably. Brilliant idea, little timmy the war can't get in the allinace to hit nidhogg so he's happy blm can't nuke in besieged. IT'S TOTALLY THE SAME THING!

Melee can, and do, do more dmg on hnm then blm. It's no secret. Wheres that guy that tanked Tiamat on War/Whm. Not only did he tank it he out dmged everyone else as well. But omg lets nerf blm.

[Nirokun!]

320~ IS no fair

I dunno what to do :/ i can stand at the back and buff myself over and over? haste gogo

i went on smn one time, got even less IS lol

things were dead before fenrir got off mroe than 2-3 hits at best :/

[Melchiah]

Telling any job they are useless is just being an elitist asshole. DRG can deal ugly damage, then just blow hate away with a jump... WAR/NIN can't do that.

[aurik]

I got 800IS in a lv5 raid a while ago. This "700" cap must be new.

[Priran]

Take your bard songs, and 1/4 their power for NO REASON AT ALL aside from the fact that you are a bard.

Then, make sure after 3 songs, you cant sing anymore and you have to rest for 3-5 mins to get the ability to sing back.

Then ontop of all that, you dont get many points, because you're not doing your job properly/dishing enough power out from your songs (and it is out of your control to change that), simply because, you're a bard with quarter-power songs.

This is how it feels like. We're not complaining that we're not the best, we never claimed to be. You're a frigging bard, you should know by now war/nin > blm for lots of shit. But to be nerfed to the point where a DRAGOON is more potent than you is pathetic.

You're complaining because there is something in this game (aside from JoT) that you as a blm are useless. But about half the jobs are told they're useless in half of end-game content anyway...

They're only useless cause their ls excludes them probably. Brilliant idea, little timmy the war can't get in the allinace to hit nidhogg so he's happy blm can't nuke in besieged. IT'S TOTALLY THE SAME THING!

Melee can, and do, do more dmg on hnm then blm. It's no secret. Wheres that guy that tanked Tiamat on War/Whm. Not only did he tank it he out dmged everyone else as well. But omg lets nerf blm.

Little Timmy the WAR is doing probably giving around 10x more TP than you to do the same damage.

[NynJa]

So is anyone going to voice any FFXI events that are anti-melee, where melee's are 100% useless ??

[Not Kuno]

Some mobs have auto tp regen and spam ws anyway. The extra ws isn't all that noticable.

[Priran]

So is anyone going to voice any FFXI events that are anti-melee, where melee's are 100% useless ??

AV

And if you feel like opening it to "Easier for BLM than Melee" rather than "100% useless" so you don't have to think, DM, Kirin, Wyrms, Kings, EXP 1-74, soloing, and Dynamis.

[Lordwafik]

So is anyone going to voice any FFXI events that are anti-melee, where melee's are 100% useless ??

AV

AV draws in now. Phail

[NynJa]

So is anyone going to voice any FFXI events that are anti-melee, where melee's are 100% useless ??

AV

http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9521
BLM's are just as useless...



any other FFXI events that are "anti-melee" ??

[Priran]

So is anyone going to voice any FFXI events that are anti-melee, where melee's are 100% useless ??

AV

AV draws in now. Phail

Please point me to the thread there the 100% melee LS beat AV since one apparently exists

[Lordwafik]

Please point to me anyone who's beat it legitimately without the wall.

[Eaglestrike]

No, im complaining because of an unfair adjustment making us useless, when previously we were good.

So for example, your sneak/trick attack gets nerfed in beseiged only, aswell as dagger damage, and you dont wanna come to it as other jobs, you wanna come as thief.

I have 2 other 75 jobs that are VERY pimped out, it's not about coming as another job, 1 job shouldnt be completely nerfed to the point wwhere it cant contribute jackshit.

I got maybe 1 TA off (need to be near a party member to happen) and like 3-5 SA's in 2.1 Besieged's. That's the least of my worries. And anyway, SA and TA are gimped as you get higher in level because the dmg increase scales horribly to the hp increase of mobs at 75

So is anyone going to voice any FFXI events that are anti-melee, where melee's are 100% useless ??

Blm's are only 80% useless in Besieged, not 100%.

How often in CoP was the answer "use more blm's and smn's"? How often was it "use more melee!"...???

Also, melee useless: http://ffxi.somepage.com/bcnm/53