Total BS Beseiged

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i thought it was fun, i didnt like being forced to stay because CS -> CS for next attack without a chance to get out.

blm's were nerfed. in besieged. they were only nerfed in beseiged, we dont know if theyre going to change it again.

lots of jobs have been nerfed by SE, be happy that its only in something stupid like besieged and not THE REST OF THE GAME THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS. and try to suggest to SE about how you think it should be fixed (though that never seems to work for broken racc).

id tell you not to cry about it but i was pissed when rng was nerfed even though i was only level 30, nevertheless, stop fucking crying about it if you cant excel at only one aspect of the game. id be more than happy to be 1/5th damage in besieged and have my racc and/or damage back vs the rest of the game.

edit; and what the fuck is with all the bitch ass french comments? pretty fucking low to insult someone like that. why dont you all start with some racist stuff too?

lolrng

[Priran]

Please point to me anyone who's beat it legitimately without the wall.

Can you melee over the wall?

[Lordwafik]

Also, melee useless: http://ffxi.somepage.com/bcnm/53

Done it as 6 BST, BST is a melee job.

Next.

[NynJa]

Also, melee useless: http://ffxi.somepage.com/bcnm/53

Is that speculation that it is anti-melee, or a fact ??

From what I have read, the insta-death breath attack has like a 10 second chargeup, so you have ample time to gtfo.

[Eaglestrike]

Also, melee useless: http://ffxi.somepage.com/bcnm/53

Done it as 6 BST, BST is a melee job.

Next.

Were any bst's actually meleeing?

[Lordwafik]

Please point to me anyone who's beat it legitimately without the wall.

Can you melee over the wall?

My question was :

Please point to me anyone who's beat it legitimately without the wall

[Not Kuno]

Also, melee useless: http://ffxi.somepage.com/bcnm/53

Done it as 6 BST, BST is a melee job.

Next.

Bullshit. You're a mage. You stand far back and deal damage using evil evil magics.

[NynJa]

So is anyone going to voice any FFXI events that are anti-melee, where melee's are 100% useless ??

AV

AV draws in now. Phail

Please point me to the thread there the 100% melee LS beat AV since one apparently exists

Please direct me to proof of a BLM only team killing AV post patch...last I checked, AV draws in, making blm's equally useless to melee's.

NEXT

[Lordwafik]

Also, melee useless: http://ffxi.somepage.com/bcnm/53

Done it as 6 BST, BST is a melee job.

Next.

Were any bst's actually meleeing?

after a while, yes, we got bored and smacked away. Meleeing and running away whenever we saw the "blahblah inhales" message.

also our pets were meleeing. They count as part of our damage, our pets arent able to do uber BP's like SMN can, nor can we control which WS it uses (Go go bubble shower! I beleive in you!).

[Priran]

Please point to me anyone who's beat it legitimately without the wall.

Can you melee over the wall?

My question was :

Please point to me anyone who's beat it legitimately without the wall

That's great, but no melee have beaten AV period. BLMs have beaten it with the wall, legitimately or not.

Please direct me to proof of a BLM only team killing AV post patch...last I checked, AV draws in, making blm's equally useless to melee's.

NEXT

Find a new wall in South, AV killable by BLMs. Also, since I assume he only draws one person in, Tele-Mea > Nuke.

[Eaglestrike]

Mob where melee damage is gimped just like blm's in Besieged: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1714

Mob where melee damage is limited because it's the best way to beat the mob for almost every LS that does it: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/2095 + http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1313

Melee have to sit out a bunch of stuff that blm's don't.

[Lordwafik]

Mob where melee damage is gimped just like blm's in Besieged: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1714

Mob where melee damage is limited because it's the best way to beat the mob for almost every LS that does it: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/2095 + http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1313

Melee have to sit out a bunch of stuff that blm's don't.

rofl, you've gotta be kidding about kirin. Unless your LS is still stuck in the old days of a 1.5hour kirin with blms, everyone (well the majority of people) know that straight tank kirin + head melee/thf or war/nin >>>>>>> blm slow kirin.

For KB , gravity him from the start and let the melees in, and watch how much faster you'll kill him instead of going blm onry.

[Eaglestrike]

Mob where melee damage is gimped just like blm's in Besieged: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1714

Mob where melee damage is limited because it's the best way to beat the mob for almost every LS that does it: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/2095 + http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1313

Melee have to sit out a bunch of stuff that blm's don't.

rofl, you've gotta be kidding about kirin. Unless your LS is still stuck in the old days of a 1.5hour kirin with blms, everyone (well the majority of people) know that straight tank kirin + head melee/thf or war/nin >>>>>>> blm slow kirin.

Just because they know it's the best way doesn't mean they are even willing to try it. I don't know of a single LS on my server that straight tanks it because it's easier to just throw blm's at it. And my last LS with 25 people could kill Kirin in under an hour (including gods) so it's not that slow...

[NynJa]

Please point to me anyone who's beat it legitimately without the wall.

Can you melee over the wall?

My question was :

Please point to me anyone who's beat it legitimately without the wall

That's great, but no melee have beaten AV period. BLMs have beaten it with the wall, legitimately or not.

Please direct me to proof of a BLM only team killing AV post patch...last I checked, AV draws in, making blm's equally useless to melee's.

NEXT

Find a new wall in South, AV killable by BLMs. Also, since I assume he only draws one person in, Tele-Mea > Nuke.

AV IS GOING TO DRAW THE FUCKING BLM IN AND FUCK THEM IN THE ASS BEFORE RIPPING THEIR HEAD OFF. Not to mention the fact that the kill was ILLIGITIMATE.

Stop mentionning AV, it has been shot down by a fucking scud missile into a pit of sharks with lazer beams on their heads.

Mob where melee damage is gimped just like blm's in Besieged: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1714

Mob where melee damage is limited because it's the best way to beat the mob for almost every LS that does it: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/2095 + http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1313

Melee have to sit out a bunch of stuff that blm's don't.

I have seen a LS take Aspi down to 8% with ONE blm. The rest was smn and melee dmg. The only reason they didnt kill it, and they were going to, was because the 3 LS's nearby didnt think they could kill it, and stole claim. This was also their FIRST Aspi claim.

Kirin is all smn now. You know what I do at kirin on blm ?? I sit in the portal room and play KH2. I shout that my ES is ready every 10 minutes, and ES aeroga3, then go back to KH2. I think before KH2 came out, I fished on another acct on the ferry for bhefel marlins.

I've seen KB killed by melee. Mostly sam's, and ppl getting TP off the nearby mobs via SA WS. I've seen it, its been done. KB is not anti-melee.

[Siatdiat]

This thread is retarded, dont blame SE b/c your ls is fucking gay.

[Lordwafik]

Mob where melee damage is gimped just like blm's in Besieged: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1714

Mob where melee damage is limited because it's the best way to beat the mob for almost every LS that does it: http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/2095 + http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/1313

Melee have to sit out a bunch of stuff that blm's don't.

rofl, you've gotta be kidding about kirin. Unless your LS is still stuck in the old days of a 1.5hour kirin with blms, everyone (well the majority of people) know that straight tank kirin + head melee/thf or war/nin >>>>>>> blm slow kirin.

Just because they know it's the best way doesn't mean they are even willing to try it. I don't know of a single LS on my server that straight tanks it because it's easier to just throw blm's at it. And my last LS with 25 people could kill Kirin in under an hour (including gods) so it's not that slow...

And just because it doesnt agree with your "Melee sit out" argument, it doesnt mean it doesnt happen. LS's on our server straight tank him occasionally, and kite him occasionally. Melee are NOWHERE near useless on this fight.

Why not come fight kirin as blm, spam your nukes that do dogshit for damage unless ES is up.

Actually, isnt it the monks who shine on kirin? And what are they?

melee

[Eaglestrike]

Kirin is all smn now.

That's not a melee.

I've seen it, its been done.

It's also a lot more work because blm's are simply more useful. Blm's do what, 1500+ thundaga III and 1200ish thunder IV? With gravity that blm can just kite it after that. Melee it and he'll AOE stun more often...

[Siatdiat]

It's also a lot more work because blm's are simply more useful. Blm's do what, 1500+ thundaga III and 1200ish thunder IV? With gravity that blm can just kite it after that. Melee it and he'll AOE stun more often...[/url]

This shows how little you know. Ill leave this to lordwafik to tear apart.

[Silmarwen]

-- In last night's Mamool Ja attack, I was about as effective as a goddamned toddler with a toothpick.

I actually said "lol" outloud >.>; Although I didn't quote your entire post, I do agree with you...good post ^^;

I honestly dont, Ive gone with no acc gear and had no issues hitting mobs without food, if your that worried about acc, just buy some bream sushi, its cheap

and as far as your blm comments, I witnessed it up close, blms damage is honestly nerfed way too hard, I can understand agas not working, but single target spells should still do something at least, not be stupid

and the reason you saw mobs pop, and then immediatly die is because there were DDs hitting them who didnt load for you, Ive witnessed that first hand. I just voke one, engage, use a job ability, and move on. that method has always given me max or close to max exp and IS

Not quite certain who you didn't agree with, but maybe you didn't follow completely...so, um...

...Regarding the -ga comments. Not sure about other servers or blm's, but before adjustments, I could never cast a -ga spell fast enough to hit any targets before they were destroyed by melee's...

Someone else made the comment a while back that SE is still tweaking the system. Rock on. Give the BLMs their Tier IVs back. Give me some mobs that don't have fucking Perfect Dodge and Invincible.

Beseiged should be an event that every job can participate in...not just melee; not just mage. Everyone...together...a team. Nerfing one to the point of uselessness is excluding a group of people.

People need to get a grip, truly.

[NynJa]

I've seen it, its been done.

It's also a lot more work because blm's are simply more useful. Blm's do what, 1500+ thundaga III and 1200ish thunder IV? With gravity that blm can just kite it after that. Melee it and he'll AOE stun more often...[/url]

LS's that grav KB from the getgo get raped by thunderbolt>meteor spam near the end since it starts to resist.


1500tga3 + 1200t4 on KB ?? Not really. More like 1100 tga3 and 900t4. But then what, the blm steals hate and they're forced to kite. blm cant deal dmg while they're running...nor can they rest mp while they're running.