Total BS Beseiged

[Priran]

XP bonus is a little reward ??
Warp taru is a little reward ??
Jeuno AH that lists stuff at starter city fee is a little reward ??

1+2. Your server isn't going to lose if 1 BLM doesn't attend, your ePeen isn't that huge.
3. No guarantee this NPC is taken. There's tons of POS NPCs in Al Zahbi and the invaders can only take 3.

[NynJa]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.



sadly I've been asked to come up to sea on thf lately. I'd much rather blow shit up than chase shit around and poke for 0-5 dmg.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

And I enjoy playing DRK, so how about letting me come DRK to HNMs? Oh wait, it doesnt always make sense to. Besieged is one thing where BLMs suck. One. Thing.And think of it this way: if we do lose it who will we want sleepga 2'ing mobs to get prisoners back?

What HNM's does your ls fight Maxx?

I'm not currently in one, and though I've said I think DRK is underused I don't think for a SECOND that its best for everything. BLMs aren't either, and I don't know why they are whining and bitching so much about this one optional event that doesn't have unique rewards.

[NynJa]

XP bonus is a little reward ??
Warp taru is a little reward ??
Jeuno AH that lists stuff at starter city fee is a little reward ??

1+2. Your server isn't going to lose if 1 BLM doesn't attend, your ePeen isn't that huge.
3. No guarantee this NPC is taken. There's tons of POS NPCs in Al Zahbi and the invaders can only take 3.

hmm...

beastmen attack, everyone whos on blm gets raped. blm's HP, come back on blm, and beastmen continue to rape. BLM hp's to whitegate, changes jobs to some melee, then go back to besieged...and all of a sudden the beastmen arent raping everyone.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.



sadly I've been asked to come up to sea on thf lately. I'd much rather blow shit up than chase shit around and poke for 0-5 dmg.

If you're doing 0-5 damage you are 100% gimp. I have seen theives do significant damage, ESPECIALLY on kited mobs which sea NMs tend to be

[Eaglestrike]

Im surprised though, arent you the thief on the thief boards on KI who makes thf/drk topics? The solution to alot of "melee being useless" on mobs that have giant def = sub DRK. Souleater and go nuts, omg you can DD again with real numbers.

Once every 6min? Doesn't that destroy the whole "Blm's need mp" argument you were just making? Also since souleater requires mages to heal you back up asap it can be even more taxing on your crew.

[Siatdiat]

And I enjoy playing DRK, so how about letting me come DRK to HNMs? Oh wait, it doesnt always make sense to. Besieged is one thing where BLMs suck. One. Thing.And think of it this way: if we do lose it who will we want sleepga 2'ing mobs to get prisoners back?

What HNM's does your ls fight Maxx?

I'm not currently in one, and though I've said I think DRK is underused I don't think for a SECOND that its best for everything. BLMs aren't either, and I don't know why they are whining and bitching so much about this one optional event that doesn't have unique rewards.

What HNM's did your "old" ls fight Maxx?

[Kurp]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's pretty easy to argue when you decide to just discount everything with stuipid reasoning like that.

[Not Kuno]

And I enjoy playing DRK, so how about letting me come DRK to HNMs? Oh wait, it doesnt always make sense to. Besieged is one thing where BLMs suck. One. Thing.And think of it this way: if we do lose it who will we want sleepga 2'ing mobs to get prisoners back?

What HNM's does your ls fight Maxx?

I'm not currently in one, and though I've said I think DRK is underused I don't think for a SECOND that its best for everything. BLMs aren't either, and I don't know why they are whining and bitching so much about this one optional event that doesn't have unique rewards.

This is a retarded argument. Theres alot of events that dont benefit blm. This is one of those but its shock really fun. Theres no reason to have nerfed blm in this. This isnt an alliance deal where only X amount of people can participate in, so why the hate?

[NynJa]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's pretty easy to argue when you decide to just discount everything with stuipid reasoning like that.

Kuroune - Bismarck
SAM75|WAR75|WHM72|BLU37

I rest my case.

[Kurp]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's pretty easy to argue when you decide to just discount everything with stuipid reasoning like that.

Kuroune - Bismarck
SAM75|WAR75|WHM72|BLU37

I rest my case.

What case.. That THF isn't a melee DD? Then what are they?

Tell me what role THF has in Besieved if they aren't a melee DD? Or do find them useless...like how you feel on BLM?

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

And I enjoy playing DRK, so how about letting me come DRK to HNMs? Oh wait, it doesnt always make sense to. Besieged is one thing where BLMs suck. One. Thing.And think of it this way: if we do lose it who will we want sleepga 2'ing mobs to get prisoners back?

What HNM's does your ls fight Maxx?

I'm not currently in one, and though I've said I think DRK is underused I don't think for a SECOND that its best for everything. BLMs aren't either, and I don't know why they are whining and bitching so much about this one optional event that doesn't have unique rewards.

This is a retarded argument. Theres alot of events that dont benefit blm. This is one of those but its shock really fun. Theres no reason to have nerfed blm in this. This isnt an alliance deal where only X amount of people can participate in, so why the hate?

Because though BLMs arent best in a lot of events, people overuse them anyways. You may not be best but there is NO event (at least on my server) that you will be turned down for being a BLM in. Even cerb, where by most accounts BLM is pretty bad in, people take BLM. Not true for pretty much every other job in my experience.

[Quixotic]

Im surprised though, arent you the thief on the thief boards on KI who makes thf/drk topics? The solution to alot of "melee being useless" on mobs that have giant def = sub DRK. Souleater and go nuts, omg you can DD again with real numbers.

Once every 6min? Doesn't that destroy the whole "Blm's need mp" argument you were just making? Also since souleater requires mages to heal you back up asap it can be even more taxing on your crew.

Dunno about you, but healing is never a problem for the mobs you'd use /drk for (kirin and KB), especially if you kite.

[NynJa]

[quote=Kurp]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's pretty easy to argue when you decide to just discount everything with stuipid reasoning like that.

Kuroune - Bismarck
SAM75|WAR75|WHM72|BLU37

I rest my case.

What case.. That THF isn't a melee DD? Then what are they?

Tell me what role THF has in Besieved if they aren't a melee DD? Or do find them useless...like how you feel on BLM?[/quote:7a498]
ok then, you go deal dmg to HNM's with a D24 weapon (thf knife onry when you need drops) and dismal STR/ATK gear.

I dont recall thieves taking a 85% dmg nerf in besieged...much like blm's do.

[Kurp]

What case.. That THF isn't a melee DD? Then what are they?

Tell me what role THF has in Besieved if they aren't a melee DD? Or do find them useless...like how you feel on BLM?

ok then, you go deal dmg to HNM's with a D24 weapon (thf knife onry when you need drops) and dismal STR/ATK gear.

So, what's their role in Besieged if they aren't a melee DD?

[inafume]

They overnerfed BLM in besieged. Based on the first few besieged, yea they needed to reduce BLM damage. They are still tweaking, I suspect they'll give BLM a boost in a week or two.

0-5 on a Jailer as THF will only be Jailer of Fortitude, or else you suck. I know Nynja's gear isn't shit (except NQ amemet!!) so he's just being pedantic. And if you want to be somewhat useful as THF on Fortitude, sub ranger and fire off Slug Shots. At least you'll gain TP faster than any melee and you'll be able to skillchain fairly often. (ok so I've never fought any tier 2s on THF, dont hold it against me (((( )

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

[quote=NynJa][quote=Kurp]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's pretty easy to argue when you decide to just discount everything with stuipid reasoning like that.

Kuroune - Bismarck
SAM75|WAR75|WHM72|BLU37

I rest my case.

What case.. That THF isn't a melee DD? Then what are they?

Tell me what role THF has in Besieved if they aren't a melee DD? Or do find them useless...like how you feel on BLM?[/quote:3adf5]
ok then, you go deal dmg to HNM's with a D24 weapon (thf knife onry when you need drops) and dismal STR/ATK gear.[/quote:3adf5]

...you only need THF knife for the kill, not the whole fight. And I have SEEN THF do decent damage on gods. You can SA or TA every 30 seconds for good DoT. Just incase you forgot.

[NynJa]

JoFort is 0-2. SA crits IIRC MIGHT break 10. Faith is also rather high def when closed (gogo euvhi def), and 0's are not uncommon there.

[Tilo]

[quote=Jooeetheplatypus][quote=NynJa][quote=Kurp]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's pretty easy to argue when you decide to just discount everything with stuipid reasoning like that.

Kuroune - Bismarck
SAM75|WAR75|WHM72|BLU37

I rest my case.

What case.. That THF isn't a melee DD? Then what are they?

Tell me what role THF has in Besieved if they aren't a melee DD? Or do find them useless...like how you feel on BLM?[/quote:81022]
ok then, you go deal dmg to HNM's with a D24 weapon (thf knife onry when you need drops) and dismal STR/ATK gear.[/quote:81022]

...you only need THF knife for the kill, not the whole fight. And I have SEEN THF do decent damage on gods. You can SA or TA every 30 seconds for good DoT. Just incase you forgot.[/quote:81022]

lol, when was it ever established that you needed to switch the knife in for the kill? And wasn't the last hit thing also dispelled by SE?

I think Nynja's point was that THF are forced to use the THF Knife through out the whole fight.

[Siatdiat]

Maxx you ignored my question Well I'll ask one more. How the fuck do you have half as many posts in less than a week as I've made in almost a year and a half, and you've never even actually done anything that people on this forum talk about? GTFO.