Total BS Beseiged

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

JoFort is 0-2. SA crits IIRC MIGHT break 10. Faith is also rather high def when closed (gogo euvhi def), and 0's are not uncommon there.

Fortitude has 95% physical damage reduction. No melee CAN damage it significantly. With souleater up I deal like 10 damage. Weapon bash does 1 instead of 22 damage.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

[quote=Tilo][quote=Jooeetheplatypus][quote=NynJa][quote=Kurp]

have fun chasing them around. I do jailers on my real job, Black Mage, because they can actually deal dmg endgame.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about right there. Here is something where it's the other way around.

That was from before I lvled monk (I think), when I was a THIEF and BLM main.
THF isnt melee DD lawlz.

What the fuck are you talking about? It's pretty easy to argue when you decide to just discount everything with stuipid reasoning like that.

Kuroune - Bismarck
SAM75|WAR75|WHM72|BLU37

I rest my case.

What case.. That THF isn't a melee DD? Then what are they?

Tell me what role THF has in Besieved if they aren't a melee DD? Or do find them useless...like how you feel on BLM?[/quote:fad7a]
ok then, you go deal dmg to HNM's with a D24 weapon (thf knife onry when you need drops) and dismal STR/ATK gear.[/quote:fad7a]

...you only need THF knife for the kill, not the whole fight. And I have SEEN THF do decent damage on gods. You can SA or TA every 30 seconds for good DoT. Just incase you forgot.[/quote:fad7a]

lol, when was it ever established that you needed to switch the knife in for the kill? And wasn't the last hit thing also dispelled by SE?

I think Nynja's point was that THF are forced to use the THF Knife through out the whole fight.[/quote:fad7a]

I'm not talking last hit thing, you need it to be equipped during the kill. TH+ doesnt do shit during the rest of the fight.

[inafume]

I guess my point was that on those Jailers under the same conditions, all melee receive the same penalties. NIN and MNK hit for 0 just as much as my THF did on Fortitude when I meleed. I switched to ranged attack and out tp'ed them, because Fortitude is not as weak to ranged as melee, so you don't hit for 0.

[Eaglestrike]

I guess my point was that on those Jailers under the same conditions, all melee receive the same penalties. NIN and MNK hit for 0 just as much as my THF did on Fortitude when I meleed. I switched to ranged attack and out tp'ed them, because Fortitude is not as weak to ranged as melee, so you don't hit for 0.

Just like in most parts of this end-game...when blm's don't...

[aurik]

I thought we were arguing that melee weren't useless? What's all this about melee doing shit damage and giving TP now?

Fact is, for anything with decent defense (lol everything of importance) and dangerous TP moves, the whole system is biased against melees. We're generally so used to this slanting that it's accepted as normal. Which is why it's such a shock to blms when they suddenly aren't among the top choices for a particular event.

Blms aren't completely useless tho: you have lots of mp, sub whm and cure while I melee 8)

[Lordwafik]

Which is why it's such a shock to blms when they suddenly aren't among the top choices for a particular event.

enlarged , is where the melee are failing this thread.

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

Subbing WHM and healing people doesnt give you points for besieged, since it's not doing our job. Doing our job = dealing damage. Points based on damage dealt, and our damage is poop now, so due to in game mechanics, blm cant even get the same amount of points doing their own jobs, than melee can doing their jobs.

My BLM needs buffer and I wouldnt mind doing it through besieged like a ton of other people are doing. I do not see the point to the extremity of the nerf. Ga were fine, all damage was retarded.

[Kurp]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

And the dragoons job is based around... what exactly?

Oh yea, damage. K.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

Are you high? BLM is NOT focused around damage completely. It can...

Sleep
Sleep 2
Sleepga (exclusive!)
Sleepga II (exclusive!)
Elemental Enfeebles (exclusive!)
Bio
Bio II
Bind
Blind
Tractor
Warp (exclusive!)
Warp II (exclusive!)

Don't give me that bullshit on being damage only.

And don't say you should be better than DRG. DRG is far from shitty, if you don't know it you have never given it a real shot.

[Not Kuno]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

Are you high? BLM is NOT focused around damage completely. It can...

Sleep
Sleep 2
Sleepga (exclusive!)
Sleepga II (exclusive!)
Elemental Enfeebles (exclusive!)
Bio
Bio II
Bind
Blind
Tractor
Warp (exclusive!)
Warp II (exclusive!)

Don't give me that bullshit on being damage only.

And most of those you can get by subbing blm. Ignoring the things you listed that 3 jobs get (bio/bind/blind = rdm/blm/drk).

[Lordwafik]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

Are you high? BLM is NOT focused around damage completely. It can...

Sleep
Sleep 2
Sleepga (exclusive!)
Sleepga II (exclusive!)
Elemental Enfeebles (exclusive!)
Bio
Bio II
Bind
Blind
Tractor
Warp (exclusive!)
Warp II (exclusive!)

Don't give me that bullshit on being damage only.

Sleepga what? Resisted.

I am not going in to beseiged to sleepga/debuff crap, that's a red mages job. I am a black mage, not a black pussy.

Tractor ? are YOU high? Who the fuck am I going to tractor and why? Warp? Out of Besieged?

Use logic before posting, seriously. Once again, posting useless crap to get more post count +1.


People dont invite me to parties because of Frost, Choke, or Bio. They invite me to blow the shit up when they SC.

I can play the retard game too. DRK get a ton of absorb spells, stuns, bio, drain, aspir , blahblah, and what are they invited for? Damage. Not the other useless junk, unless it's a HNM , you'll get invited to stun.

[Tom Chambers]

Welcome to the game everyone else has been playing for several years. It's nice to have you, have a seat. Do you want something to drink? Maybe BRDs can be invited into the club eventually as well.

[Priran]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

Are you high? BLM is NOT focused around damage completely. It can...

Sleep
Sleep 2
Sleepga (exclusive!)
Sleepga II (exclusive!)
Elemental Enfeebles (exclusive!)
Bio
Bio II
Bind
Blind
Tractor
Warp (exclusive!)
Warp II (exclusive!)

Don't give me that bullshit on being damage only.

And most of those you can get by subbing blm. Ignoring the things you listed that 3 jobs get (bio/bind/blind = rdm/blm/drk).

They don't factor into "your job" as far as points from Beseiged go, which last time I checked was what this thread is about.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

Are you high? BLM is NOT focused around damage completely. It can...

Sleep
Sleep 2
Sleepga (exclusive!)
Sleepga II (exclusive!)
Elemental Enfeebles (exclusive!)
Bio
Bio II
Bind
Blind
Tractor
Warp (exclusive!)
Warp II (exclusive!)

Don't give me that bullshit on being damage only.

Sleepga what? Resisted.

I am not going in to beseiged to sleepga/debuff crap, that's a red mages job. I am a black mage, not a black pussy.

Tractor ? are YOU high? Who the fuck am I going to tractor and why? Warp? Out of Besieged?

Use logic before posting, seriously. Once again, posting useless crap to get more post count +1.


People dont invite me to parties because of Frost, Choke, or Bio. They invite me to blow the shit up when they SC.

So? Don't bitch about being only a DD when you have breadth that many other jobs, such as DRG and MNK, don't. That shit is useful, even if its not the primary reason you are used.

[Siatdiat]

Yeah, everyone always prefers Bio over Dia. Also, you can eat my dick if you think im going to sleepga something so I can get ripped when it wakes up. I can imagine it now:

ME: Hey can somebody voke this stuff I slept?

Random melees: FUCK NO! Smart ass blm, think your so fucking great being able to sleep stuff, I hope you get owned.

ME: /sigh

[Banigaru]

Yeah you D2 yourself and show that mob who's boss

[Siatdiat]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

Are you high? BLM is NOT focused around damage completely. It can...

Sleep
Sleep 2
Sleepga (exclusive!)
Sleepga II (exclusive!)
Elemental Enfeebles (exclusive!)
Bio
Bio II
Bind
Blind
Tractor
Warp (exclusive!)
Warp II (exclusive!)

Don't give me that bullshit on being damage only.

Sleepga what? Resisted.

I am not going in to beseiged to sleepga/debuff crap, that's a red mages job. I am a black mage, not a black pussy.

Tractor ? are YOU high? Who the fuck am I going to tractor and why? Warp? Out of Besieged?

Use logic before posting, seriously. Once again, posting useless crap to get more post count +1.


People dont invite me to parties because of Frost, Choke, or Bio. They invite me to blow the shit up when they SC.

So? Don't bitch about being only a DD when you have breadth that many other jobs, such as DRG and MNK, don't. That shit is useful, even if its not the primary reason you are used.

STFU MAXX! Jesus christ, I'm going to have to assume from here on out that you were born retarded, b/c 1. You dont know wtf your talking about anyway, and 2. I "knew" a DRK personally who was always in alliance for everything I did on HNM's, b/c he destroyed shit, so quit fucking whining and figure out how to play this game.

edit: spelling

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

Are you high? BLM is NOT focused around damage completely. It can...

Sleep
Sleep 2
Sleepga (exclusive!)
Sleepga II (exclusive!)
Elemental Enfeebles (exclusive!)
Bio
Bio II
Bind
Blind
Tractor
Warp (exclusive!)
Warp II (exclusive!)

Don't give me that bullshit on being damage only.

Sleepga what? Resisted.

I am not going in to beseiged to sleepga/debuff crap, that's a red mages job. I am a black mage, not a black pussy.

Tractor ? are YOU high? Who the fuck am I going to tractor and why? Warp? Out of Besieged?

Use logic before posting, seriously. Once again, posting useless crap to get more post count +1.


People dont invite me to parties because of Frost, Choke, or Bio. They invite me to blow the shit up when they SC.

So? Don't bitch about being only a DD when you have breadth that many other jobs, such as DRG and MNK, don't. That shit is useful, even if its not the primary reason you are used.

STFU MAXX! Jesus christ, I'm going ot have to assume that from here on out you were born retarded, b/c 1. You dont know wtf your talking about anyway, and 2. I "knew" a DRK personally who was always in alliance for everything I did on HNM's, b/c he destroyed shit, so quit fucking whining and figure out how to play this game.

I know how to destroy shit, when given a chance I do. The problem is, the game is biased against me destroying shit because of the TP system, and thus most LSes, from my experience on my server, don't like to use melees because its too 'dangerous'. The top 2 LSes on the server do not let melees touch wyrms. Now, I have to assume, as all of you have with your own, that my experiences aren't completely unique and that other LSes do the same thing.

[carve]

We dont care about being the top, we want to at least be more useful than the person who uses jump, since our whole job is focused around damage.

why ?

why would BLM be better than DRG everywhere?

yeah SE made besieged so that BLM are the worst

it's funny this is the first time I see a thread BLM vs the rest of the world

it used to be DRG, then RNG when they got nerfed (and yes they cried as much as you're doing now)

ok you suck at besieged, do something else or come as another job since you seem to all have at least one

[Lordwafik]

Your server is retarded.

On asura drk/nin sodomize wyrms, both JP and NA LS's, Melee/thf or /drk or /nin rape kirin and sky gods.

Allience of melee can tear shit up in dynamis (yes, I was running a melee dynamis too, so im not pulling this outta my ass. Go go 18 man dynamis BCD), aswell as limbus, since those mobs have too much HP and such little amount of participants to manazerg most towers. Majority of limbus zones are melee friendly.

[Dezzimal]

@ everyone saying: welcome to the club of being useless at something

No! Theres no reason for BLM to be useless in an event that is specifically meant for everyone to participate in.