Fafnir sucks

[RKenshin]

Sorry, no offense meant to you or your linkshell... But is it just me, or lately does every new (and even some old ones) linkshell on their first fight (or first few) have the same reason to justify a loss? I've seen it over ten times now. "Oh, we would've won easily... But people in Aery lagged us all to death and we couldn't do it, and somehow all the lag resulted in us killing it so slow that after an hour it was only 50%."

I really find it to be the lamest excuse for a loss... And everytime I see it used it's so aggravating, if it was really a problem then how do you think other linkshells have killed it in the past? I mean, unless people are actually DCing and their computers are crashing because the lag is so bad, it shouldn't have much of a bearing if any on your kill. It'll just about always happen anyway, so might as well accept it as part of the enviroment.

[Kaylia]

Not all pc lag the same in Aery. When there is a 5sec delay between your command and your action, it won't help you for sure. Even worse, sometime, you don't even see fafnir and has no clue what's going on.

They will have to learn how to fight it with lag, but I can understand why a new LS would complain.

[Sarchar]

Sorry, no offense meant to you or your linkshell... But is it just me, or lately does every new (and even some old ones) linkshell on their first fight (or first few) have the same reason to justify a loss? I've seen it over ten times now. "Oh, we would've won easily... But people in Aery lagged us all to death and we couldn't do it, and somehow all the lag resulted in us killing it so slow that after an hour it was only 50%."

I really find it to be the lamest excuse for a loss... And everytime I see it used it's so aggravating, if it was really a problem then how do you think other linkshells have killed it in the past? I mean, unless people are actually DCing and their computers are crashing because the lag is so bad, it shouldn't have much of a bearing if any on your kill. It'll just about always happen anyway, so might as well accept it as part of the enviroment.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I didn't once say that we lost because of the lag.

It was our first time attempt at Fafnir, we lost. It won't happen again XD

We're 1/2 KB (Won 2nd try), 1/2 Aspid (Won 2nd try), and 0/1 Fafnir now. Fafnir's next on our hitlist and we will win regardless of lag. My ls is made of up people who have never faught these HNMs before--they're not people with experience. We're learning and progressing very well in my opinion.

Again, I'm sorry you feel that way.

[Lordwafik]

Sorry, no offense meant to you or your linkshell... But is it just me, or lately does every new (and even some old ones) linkshell on their first fight (or first few) have the same reason to justify a loss? I've seen it over ten times now. "Oh, we would've won easily... But people in Aery lagged us all to death and we couldn't do it, and somehow all the lag resulted in us killing it so slow that after an hour it was only 50%."

Maybe because now with all the recent changes to claiming and MPK, most people feel they have a chance to claim stuff, and bring their whole LS's to the fight. Dragon's Aery is the most compact of all fighting arenas when it comes to kings.

[RKenshin]

Sorry, no offense meant to you or your linkshell... But is it just me, or lately does every new (and even some old ones) linkshell on their first fight (or first few) have the same reason to justify a loss? I've seen it over ten times now. "Oh, we would've won easily... But people in Aery lagged us all to death and we couldn't do it, and somehow all the lag resulted in us killing it so slow that after an hour it was only 50%."

I really find it to be the lamest excuse for a loss... And everytime I see it used it's so aggravating, if it was really a problem then how do you think other linkshells have killed it in the past? I mean, unless people are actually DCing and their computers are crashing because the lag is so bad, it shouldn't have much of a bearing if any on your kill. It'll just about always happen anyway, so might as well accept it as part of the enviroment.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I didn't once say that we lost because of the lag.

It was our first time attempt at Fafnir, we lost. It won't happen again XD

We're 1/2 KB (Won 2nd try), 1/2 Aspid (Won 2nd try), and 0/1 Fafnir now. Fafnir's next on our hitlist and we will win regardless of lag. My ls is made of up people who have never faught these HNMs before--they're not people with experience. We're learning and progressing very well in my opinion.

Again, I'm sorry you feel that way.

Misunderstood me.

I'm not using your LS as an example, I'm talking about events that the action you described reminded me of. The situation I'm talking about is not meant to describe your linkshell at all, it's linkshells on my specific server. Your case is much different from the cases I'm describing on my server, or at least I think it is.

[Sarchar]

Sorry, no offense meant to you or your linkshell... But is it just me, or lately does every new (and even some old ones) linkshell on their first fight (or first few) have the same reason to justify a loss? I've seen it over ten times now. "Oh, we would've won easily... But people in Aery lagged us all to death and we couldn't do it, and somehow all the lag resulted in us killing it so slow that after an hour it was only 50%."

I really find it to be the lamest excuse for a loss... And everytime I see it used it's so aggravating, if it was really a problem then how do you think other linkshells have killed it in the past? I mean, unless people are actually DCing and their computers are crashing because the lag is so bad, it shouldn't have much of a bearing if any on your kill. It'll just about always happen anyway, so might as well accept it as part of the enviroment.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I didn't once say that we lost because of the lag.

It was our first time attempt at Fafnir, we lost. It won't happen again XD

We're 1/2 KB (Won 2nd try), 1/2 Aspid (Won 2nd try), and 0/1 Fafnir now. Fafnir's next on our hitlist and we will win regardless of lag. My ls is made of up people who have never faught these HNMs before--they're not people with experience. We're learning and progressing very well in my opinion.

Again, I'm sorry you feel that way.

Misunderstood me.

I'm not using your LS as an example, I'm talking about events that the action you described reminded me of. The situation I'm talking about is not meant to describe your linkshell at all, it's linkshells on my specific server. Your case is much different from the cases I'm describing on my server, or at least I think it is.

Well {Thank you} for your reply ^^////

[Gamutstreet]

Maybe you accidently removed Faf when you removed the Darters?

[Sarchar]

Maybe you accidently removed Faf when you removed the Darters?

XD

did you look at the 2nd screenshot?

[Gamutstreet]

It's too small. Hurts my eyes quinting.

[Sarchar]

It's too small. Hurts my eyes quinting.

click it.

[Heian]

Maybe you accidently removed Faf when you removed the Darters?

I wonder if anyone has thought of replacing Darter DATs. with those new flea mobs you can't target lol.....

[Mike]

Ryko
Who the fuck cares if it's being held, the only people who bitch about it are whiney tards who couldnt kill it in less than 20 minutes anyway.

L O L

Let it be known that cocky Ryko here leads an LS that hasn't killed a Fafhogg in under 45 min within the last several months ... but wait that isn't the punch line, not only do they enjoy playing with Fafnir until it is pushing the rage timer but they are well known to use members from another HNMLS as support.

Jeez Ryko, I suggest in the future you dispose of the practices of hiding behind your forum verbosity and trend of cutting down first-timers until your said "abilities" are reflected on the server...

(Read: quit talking the big game for all our sake)

[Kaylia]

Ryko
Who the fuck cares if it's being held, the only people who bitch about it are whiney tards who couldnt kill it in less than 20 minutes anyway.

L O L

Let it be known that cocky Ryko here leads an LS that hasn't killed a Fafhogg in under 45 min within the last several months ... but wait that isn't the punch line, not only do they enjoy playing with Fafnir until it is pushing the rage timer but they are well known to use members from another HNMLS as support.

Jeez Ryko, I suggest in the future you dispose of the practices of hiding behind your forum verbosity and trend of cutting down first-timers until your said "abilities" are reflected on the server...

(Read: quit talking the big game for all our sake)

Who cares if a LS kill it fast or not. It's more than often just a matter of quantity of BLM at camp.

[Mike]

Thank you for reiterating my main point, though I disagree with the BLM comment.

[wartortle]

We're 1/2 KB (Won 2nd try), 1/2 Aspid (Won 2nd try), and 0/1 Fafnir now. Fafnir's next on our hitlist and we will win regardless of lag. My ls is made of up people who have never faught these HNMs before--they're not people with experience. We're learning and progressing very well in my opinion.

Again, I'm sorry you feel that way.

You lost to Aspi? o.o

[Khamsin]

Maybe you accidently removed Faf when you removed the Darters?

Today's maintenance notes:

[Maintenance Details]
The Fafnir model has been replaced with a giant Dragonfly model.

[TsingTao]

I wonder if anyone has thought of replacing Darter DATs. with those new flea mobs you can't target lol.....

If just changing the DAT makes Darters (or anything else) untargetable until they aggro I'm going to have a lot of swapping to do.

Wait, I said that part out loud didn't I? DOH!

[Sarchar]

We're 1/2 KB (Won 2nd try), 1/2 Aspid (Won 2nd try), and 0/1 Fafnir now. Fafnir's next on our hitlist and we will win regardless of lag. My ls is made of up people who have never faught these HNMs before--they're not people with experience. We're learning and progressing very well in my opinion.

Again, I'm sorry you feel that way.

You lost to Aspi? o.o

Side effect of only having 1 BLM at camp -.-

[Maximilianbob]

Ryko
Who the fuck cares if it's being held, the only people who bitch about it are whiney tards who couldnt kill it in less than 20 minutes anyway.

L O L

Let it be known that cocky Ryko here leads an LS that hasn't killed a Fafhogg in under 45 min within the last several months ... but wait that isn't the punch line, not only do they enjoy playing with Fafnir until it is pushing the rage timer but they are well known to use members from another HNMLS as support.

Jeez Ryko, I suggest in the future you dispose of the practices of hiding behind your forum verbosity and trend of cutting down first-timers until your said "abilities" are reflected on the server...

(Read: quit talking the big game for all our sake)

As a member of the HNMLS that ryko's shell supposedly "uses for support" , and has watched them kill faf multiple times wayyy before 45 minutes in the last week, I think I'm in a decent position to say you're clueless.

[Machazareel]

Ryko
Who the fuck cares if it's being held, the only people who bitch about it are whiney tards who couldnt kill it in less than 20 minutes anyway.

L O L

Let it be known that cocky Ryko here leads an LS that hasn't killed a Fafhogg in under 45 min within the last several months ... but wait that isn't the punch line, not only do they enjoy playing with Fafnir until it is pushing the rage timer but they are well known to use members from another HNMLS as support.

Jeez Ryko, I suggest in the future you dispose of the practices of hiding behind your forum verbosity and trend of cutting down first-timers until your said "abilities" are reflected on the server...

(Read: quit talking the big game for all our sake)

Yeah, because.. God forbid Linkshells actually help eachother out in the wee hours of the morning when neither of them have people who are awake, rather than let a group of douchebags get it for free. I guess it would be better to vulture over Fafhogg waiting on him to, by chance, kill the people fighting him so you get your shot at all the loot of the mob you failed to claim.