Fafnir sucks

[Raineer]

map > ryko cuz AVsashamirite?

i'm not sure

My SAM is all of level 7 but is meditate really 40 second recast?

Not sure where you get 100TP in 40 seconds against a mob with 1000 hp stoneskin.

I make this post under the full disclosure that ilovemap

[Khamsin]

map > ryko cuz AVsashamirite?

i'm not sure

My SAM is all of level 7 but is meditate really 40 second recast?

Not sure where you get 100TP in 40 seconds against a mob with 1000 hp stoneskin.

I make this post under the full disclosure that ilovemap

How long does it take to sleep to 100? More than 40, I'm sure, but it might be the next fastest option.

[Turtlesoup]

2:30 with full merits...

[Ryko]

And around and around we go.

[Krandor]

And around and around we go.

I hear your LS is pink.

[Ryko]

I hear your FACE is pink.

[Map]

it takes like 40 seconds(or less depending on hitting for 0s or misses) to get 100 tp back, without med. Kinda missing the point anyways. The point was that getting rid of cerberus's stoneskin is easy with just a SA ws, and no job gets tp faster than sam does, making it ideal for the task.

[Khamsin]

it takes like 40 seconds(or less depending on hitting for 0s or misses) to get 100 tp back, without med. Kinda missing the point anyways. The point was that getting rid of cerberus's stoneskin is easy with just a SA ws, and no job gets tp faster than sam does, making it ideal for the task.

I think the point was that you will always hit for 0 until the stoneskin is off. If you don't have TP already, how exactly do you expect to melee the TP up to break stoneskin with it? You're hitting for 0. If you aren't hitting for 0, stoneskin is gone already and you've missed the boat.

[Krandor]

I hear your FACE is pink.

Red actually T_T I got sunburned today walking to and from work/class.

[aurik]

it takes like 40 seconds(or less depending on hitting for 0s or misses) to get 100 tp back, without med. Kinda missing the point anyways. The point was that getting rid of cerberus's stoneskin is easy with just a SA ws, and no job gets tp faster than sam does, making it ideal for the task.

I think the point was that you will always hit for 0 until the stoneskin is off. If you don't have TP already, how exactly do you expect to melee the TP up to break stoneskin with it? You're hitting for 0. If you aren't hitting for 0, stoneskin is gone already and you've missed the boat.

And what map is saying is that you already have 100tp as sam, and are waiting for your SC partner. They aren't gaining TP with the stoneskin up, so WS it off, and just re-earn that TP. As a Sam you will catch up to your partner quite fast.

It makes a certain amount of sense; WS damage gives very low TP gain for damage caused, so you might as well blow it when you aren't getting any TP for damage caused. If you aren't dispelling the stoneskin, then the only difference between nullifying a WS and nullifying normal melee is that you give up a lot of potential TP by DPSing it off with normal melee. The flip side of the coin is that you give up a big closing renkei damage-bonus if your closer gets nerfed by stoneskin.

[Raineer]

it takes like 40 seconds(or less depending on hitting for 0s or misses) to get 100 tp back, without med. Kinda missing the point anyways. The point was that getting rid of cerberus's stoneskin is easy with just a SA ws, and no job gets tp faster than sam does, making it ideal for the task.

I think the point was that you will always hit for 0 until the stoneskin is off. If you don't have TP already, how exactly do you expect to melee the TP up to break stoneskin with it? You're hitting for 0. If you aren't hitting for 0, stoneskin is gone already and you've missed the boat.

Yeah that's pretty much it, ty

It's all moot anyways I guess, just do a fuckton of dmg hate free and life goes on.

[Maximilianbob]

Sadly I wouldn't know if ES dispel works, I'd have to come /blm 8) Ryko's shell ended up waisting today's cerb anyway, life goes on.

The JP community on fairy scares me.

[Dezzimal]

it takes like 40 seconds(or less depending on hitting for 0s or misses) to get 100 tp back, without med. Kinda missing the point anyways. The point was that getting rid of cerberus's stoneskin is easy with just a SA ws, and no job gets tp faster than sam does, making it ideal for the task.

Only if you just sort of forget about ridill warriors.

[Koyangi]

it takes like 40 seconds(or less depending on hitting for 0s or misses) to get 100 tp back, without med. Kinda missing the point anyways. The point was that getting rid of cerberus's stoneskin is easy with just a SA ws, and no job gets tp faster than sam does, making it ideal for the task.

Only if you just sort of forget about ridill warriors.

lol sam's only get TP faster than any other job when meditate is rdy, without it they don't get it faster than mnk nin or war

[Map]

lol sam's only get TP faster than any other job when meditate is rdy, without it they don't get it faster than mnk nin or war

It's a good thing that sam gets that job defining ability then. That's like saying mnk nin or war wouldn't out tp sam if they didn't have dual wield(or martial arts >.>).

[Dezzimal]

lol sam's only get TP faster than any other job when meditate is rdy, without it they don't get it faster than mnk nin or war

It's a good thing that sam gets that job defining ability then. That's like saying mnk nin or war wouldn't out tp sam if they didn't have dual wield(or martial arts >.>).

No it isn't, NINs aren't limited to only being able to dual-weild every 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

[Sarchar]

lol sam's only get TP faster than any other job when meditate is rdy, without it they don't get it faster than mnk nin or war

It's a good thing that sam gets that job defining ability then. That's like saying mnk nin or war wouldn't out tp sam if they didn't have dual wield(or martial arts >.>).

No it isn't, NINs aren't limited to only being able to dual-weild every 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

NINs wouldn't be NINs without dual wield. MNKs not MNKs without martial arts. I think the comparison is fair. Job Traits are just as defining as Job Abilities >.>

[Linkinfate]

Ryko's ls killing 75 tiamats? Not likely.. they'd have to kill every single one that's spawned since expansion came out. Heck my ls killed it last night

[Ryko]

Ryko's ls killing 75 tiamats? Not likely.. they'd have to kill every single one that's spawned since expansion came out. Heck my ls killed it last night

Do you read like... 2 posts, ignore 5 pages, then keep going?

Actually, dont answer that.

[Lockecole]

it takes like 40 seconds(or less depending on hitting for 0s or misses) to get 100 tp back, without med. Kinda missing the point anyways. The point was that getting rid of cerberus's stoneskin is easy with just a SA ws, and no job gets tp faster than sam does, making it ideal for the task.

Only if you just sort of forget about ridill warriors.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3255/cerb12916bz.jpg

How can you forget about Ridill WARs? We make the world go round.