Special damage-type weapons

[Lordwafik]

also a jump from 60 to 78...

[Toralyn]

Aurik, tell MNK#2 to quit eating sushi in the Mire, it makes baby Jesus cry (unless he was lower 70s, maybe 70 itself trying to get 75 easier in which case he/she's forgiven).

[Wizerd]

Aurik, tell MNK#2 to quit eating sushi in the Mire, it makes baby Jesus cry (unless he was lower 70s, maybe 70 itself trying to get 75 easier in which case he/she's forgiven).

Amen to that... I'm normally a sushi eater in exp and I even eat meat here. :/

[aurik]

He was eating sushi, I didn't have the heart to tell him off.

I maintained almost 91% overall accuracy that pt with sis kebabis and wearing rajas instead of my second hqsniper...

[Lockecole]

Just wanted to quickly confirm that slashing gets a bonus on Jnuns and probably all flesh mobs by extension.

From a parse yesterday:


Per-mob Mean Damage
==========================

Heraldic Imp
===============
Name Overall Norm Crit
Mnk 1 76.068381 67.434694 128.730290
Mnk 2 58.634043 52.976134 105.117647
Axe war 60.060536 57.040392 118.809524

Jnun
===============
Name Overall Norm Crit
Mnk 1 71.786885 61.627451 123.600000
Mnk 2 55.852941 51.233333 90.500000
Axe war 78.535714 70.375000 127.500000

Regardless, even if we hit harder, we won't hit above our damage cap, like a MNK will on bones. So its different.

I don't get what you're saying. If Jnuns and Hatis and such are just weak overall, then you'd expect to see a jump in the monks' damage corresponding to that of the warrior's here. Clearly, that didn't happen. The monks are doing less damage here, meaning the Jnuns have a higher DEF value, whereas the warrior is doing more damage. It seems that the slashing member of the group clearly got some help in the form of a bonus on the Jnuns.

I don't see where the damage cap has anything to do with it.

I'm telling you I'll never hit higher then 189-190 (cap of DMG:50 Axe) on a Jnun, no matter what. Whereas MNKs will cap out at like 210+(? not sure of exact #) on weak to blunt mobs when their normal cap is like 190 on normal mobs. So in that aspect, we don't get a bonus. Wether or not our minimum damage cap is raised on them, or somehow we break through their defence easier, that may be. But we don't get an increased overall maximum DMG cap like Piercing and Blunt gets.

[Stilgar]

Just wanted to quickly confirm that slashing gets a bonus on Jnuns and probably all flesh mobs by extension.

From a parse yesterday:


Per-mob Mean Damage
==========================

Heraldic Imp
===============
Name Overall Norm Crit
Mnk 1 76.068381 67.434694 128.730290
Mnk 2 58.634043 52.976134 105.117647
Axe war 60.060536 57.040392 118.809524

Jnun
===============
Name Overall Norm Crit
Mnk 1 71.786885 61.627451 123.600000
Mnk 2 55.852941 51.233333 90.500000
Axe war 78.535714 70.375000 127.500000

Regardless, even if we hit harder, we won't hit above our damage cap, like a MNK will on bones. So its different.

I don't get what you're saying. If Jnuns and Hatis and such are just weak overall, then you'd expect to see a jump in the monks' damage corresponding to that of the warrior's here. Clearly, that didn't happen. The monks are doing less damage here, meaning the Jnuns have a higher DEF value, whereas the warrior is doing more damage. It seems that the slashing member of the group clearly got some help in the form of a bonus on the Jnuns.

I don't see where the damage cap has anything to do with it.

I'm telling you I'll never hit higher then 189-190 (cap of DMG:50 Axe) on a Jnun, no matter what. Whereas MNKs will cap out at like 210+(? not sure of exact #) on weak to blunt mobs when their normal cap is like 190 on normal mobs. So in that aspect, we don't get a bonus. Wether or not our minimum damage cap is raised on them, or somehow we break through their defence easier, that may be. But we don't get an increased overall maximum DMG cap like Piercing and Blunt gets.

Even when eating meat? (Not trying to start that old debate again, btw)

[Lockecole]

I only ever eat meat at that camp, so yes, Meat, Minuet, Berserk, on a Tough mob, can't hit higher then 190. Hell I can go to a TW mob, and never hit higher than that. Never have, short of mobs that have skewed damage (limbus mobs, Limit 2 Hound, Quitrib etc).

[NynJa]

Instead of Jnun's taking higher slashing dmg...

ever considered they take *GASP* reduced blunt damage ??

[aurik]

Instead of Jnun's taking higher slashing dmg...

ever considered they take *GASP* reduced blunt damage ??

Doesn't really explain why slashing damage was 15% higher than on imps.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Instead of Jnun's taking higher slashing dmg...

ever considered they take *GASP* reduced blunt damage ??

I've noticed high damage on the Doom Toad family, and it makes sense logically. Thin, rotting flesh gets cut easily. Unfortunately, weapon bash is blunt so I cant get a nice, clean number for it.